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Please try and bear in mind this is just a URL change, and try and stay calm. This isn't going to be happening immediately, and there is still a fair bit of time to let people know. For the vote (or whatever) on the domain to move to, a sitenotice will probably be appropriate. Finally, please do not try and turn this into a vote - constructive comments please! Thanks. Kirkburn  talk  contr 20:49, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

Contrary to what Wikia claims to have "done for us" (and as you, Kirkburn, are an agent of Wikia, I find it hard to believe you when you say it hasn't been "take, take, take"), the only positives I see are they keep the wiki version up-to-date and allow Blizzard to advertise on us - who is to say Blizzard wouldn't be advertising on us without Wikia (ignoring the fact that Wikia is quite obviously - and graciously - providing the webhosting)? Other than that, they've forced a new skin on us, forced us to merge our usernames, forced us to be bogged down with useless extensions and crappy JavaScript, all while appearing to not care what the users want. Woo, WikiaStats - big deal. Wikia Help - big deal. Yes, SEO is cool, but I remain unconvinced they've done anything which qualifies anywhere near balancing out to not being "take, take, take" on their part.
The move is certainly reasonable from the point of view of helping Wikia, but I don't see it helping WoWWiki.
On a side note, I personally hope the blog thing stays separate from the rest of the site. WoWWiki should remain encyclopedic no matter where it is. --PcjWowpedia wiki manager (TDrop me a line!C207,729 contributions and counting) 21:05, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
Need I point out the number of things that have gone through WoWWiki:Server requests since Wikia took over? This is stuff that would never have happened had we stayed independent (with the traffic we have, that would have been impossible anyway). If you have requests for the future, let me know, or put it on that page. Out techies have limited resources, but we do try and get as much done as possible. Kirkburn  talk  contr 21:11, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
PS. Don't read too much into the blog stuff atm. It's still in fairly early stages - it won't, however, interfere with any other wiki activities. Kirkburn  talk  contr 21:14, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
Most of the stuff on Server requests are simple changes to LocalSettings.php, installing extensions, and repairing broken extensions. On a wiki separate from Wikia, this would probably be more simple for someone to manage. I wasn't here when Rustak managed things and I don't know how quick he was to make those sorts of changes, but generally speaking it looks like most of those were simple changes. The more advanced requests (i.e. my armory thing, Adys's OpenWDB idea, and extensions with difficult installs) were denied. --PcjWowpedia wiki manager (TDrop me a line!C207,729 contributions and counting) 21:19, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
Not to put too fine a point on it ... he didn't. He kept the server up, and did rare upgrades, but that's all. I don't blame him, it was expensive, hard to reach the server and he was busy. But we seriously did have very very little support. Kirkburn  talk  contr 21:24, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
I really don't like the idea of a blog for RP'ers on WoWWiki. The way I see it is that people will use WoWWiki as a blog instead of a site that is, you know, actually a blog site. It will probably generate more pageviews for Wikia to use as statistics, 'cause that's all they care about, despite that we have a page about Wikisquatting. But hey, we sold ourselves to Wikia, so we'll just have to take it. g0urra[T҂C] 21:17, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
As long as we have rules regarding what people can post about (e.g. must be WoW-related), it would run just like other pages. If it doesn't work, it doesn't work - but not trying is silly. Anyway, as I said blogs are very much in the development phase. Kirkburn  talk  contr 21:24, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
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