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'''Weapon skill''' represents your proficiency with a particular [[weapon]]. The basic formula for your maximum weapon skill at a particular level is (5 * level). The rate at which you gain them depends on your [[weapon speed]]. It is typically better to use a fast weapon to train up your skills. Instant attacks like Sinister Strike and Hamstring help to increase your weapon skill faster. Note that attacking Evading enemies will not increase your weapon skill.
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'''Weapon skill''' represents your proficiency with a particular [[weapon]]. The basic formula for your maximum weapon skill at a particular level is (5 * level). Each attack which is not evaded has a chance to increase weapon skill, with low weapon skill, the skill gain rate is at or near 100%, however the skill gain change begins to sharply decrease once the weapon skill cap is approached. At 10% away from the cap, the skill gain chance is roughly 50%, and gaining the final skill point can take hundreds of swings. The chance per swing seems to be unrelated to [[weapon speed]], making low spead weapons better. Instant attacks like Sinister Strike and Hamstring help to increase your weapon skill faster. Note that attacking Evading enemies will not increase your weapon skill.
 
It has been confirmed that [[intellect]] increases the rate at which weapon skills are learned. Before [[Patch 2.0]], this was listed in the tooltip but was removed shortly after that. If you want to level a weapon skill, try asking for an [[intellect]] buff or using a scroll which can help the process.
 
   
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It has been confirmed that [[intellect]] increases the rate at which weapon skills are learned. Before [[Patch 2.0]], this was listed in the tooltip but was removed shortly after that. If you want to level a weapon skill, try asking for an [[intellect]] buff or using a scroll which can help the process. Similarly, equip any gear you have that has an Intellect bonus on it—if you're a paladin, put on your Holy gear and cast Blessing of Kings; if you're a shaman, put on your Elemental or Restoration gear.
   
 
In [[Patch 2.3]], stats on melee weapons which granted an increase to weapon skill were replaced by an increase to [[expertise]] rating. Items which granted ranged weapon skill increases instead now grant increases to hit or critical strike rating.
 
In [[Patch 2.3]], stats on melee weapons which granted an increase to weapon skill were replaced by an increase to [[expertise]] rating. Items which granted ranged weapon skill increases instead now grant increases to hit or critical strike rating.
   
== Effects of Weapon Skill ==
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In ''[[Cataclysm]]'' weapon skill is removed as all weapon proficiencies available to the classes are learned from the start at full skill.
'''NOTE: With respect to the impact of Weapon Skill on miss rates and +hit, both the supplied pre-BC information and the [[Crezax]] post are no longer accurate. For the correct information, please see the updated "Chance to Miss" section below.'''
 
   
For '''each point''' that your weapon skill '''exceeds''' your opponent's [[defense]], you gain the following:
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== Effects of weapon skill ==
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=== Player attacking a mob ===
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==== If your weapon skill is LESS THAN OR EQUAL TO the mob's Defense skill (the mob's level * 5) ====
   
'''Note: These numbers are from pre-2.0, and may or may not still be correct. Crezax on the EU forums has made a post contradicting these values (see below).'''
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* The base chance for your attack to '''miss''' the mob:
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** If the difference between the mob's Defense Skill and your Weapon Skill is '''less than or equal to 10''' then the formula for calculating your base miss chance against that mob is: '''5% + (Defense Skill - Weapon Skill)*.1%'''
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** If the difference between the mob's Defense Skill and your Weapon Skill is '''greater than 10''', then the formula for calculating your base miss chance against that mob is: '''6% + (Defense Skill - Weapon Skill - 10)*.4%'''
   
* Your chance to miss decreases by 0.04%.
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* The base chance for your attack to be a '''critical strike''' is: '''5% - (Defense Skill - Weapon Skill)*0.04%'''
* Your chance to score a [[critical strike]] increases by 0.04%.
 
* Your opponent's chance to [[Formulas:Block|block]] your attack decreases by 0.04%.
 
* Your opponent's chance to [[Formulas:Parry|parry]] your attack decreases by 0.04%.
 
* Your opponent's chance to [[Formulas:Dodge|dodge]] your attack decreases by 0.04%.
 
   
CM [[Crezax]] made a post[http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=166546791&pageNo=1&sid=1#2] on the EU forums outlining the effect of weapon skill on higher-level mobs. Note that this refers only to monsters 3 levels higher than the player in PVE (i.e. boss level mobs). Corresponding numbers for 1 and 2 levels higher than the player are not known, but are likely lower.
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* The base chance for your attack to be '''dodged''' by the mob is: '''5% + (Defense Skill - Weapon Skill)*.1%'''
   
<pre>Let's say you increase your weapon skill by 4.
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* The base chance for your attack to be '''parried''' by the mob:
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** If the difference between the mob's Defense Skill and your Weapon Skill is '''less than or equal to 10''', your base parry rate is: '''5% + (Defense Skill - Weapon Skill)*.1%'''.
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** If the difference between the mob's Defense Skill and your Weapon Skill is '''greater than 10''', your base parry rate will be much higher. Exact figures are not known, but base parry rates of Boss mobs (effectively level 73 when attacked by level 70 players) are estimated to be between 10-15%, and may vary from one Boss to the next.
   
Against a mob 3 levels higher than you, you get: 0.8% lower chance to miss,
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* The base chance for your attack to be '''blocked''' by the mob is probably the same as the base dodge rate, i.e.: '''5% + (Defense Skill - Weapon Skill)*.1%'''
0.4% lower chance to get dodged, 2.4% to be parried, and a 0.8% higher
 
chance to crit.</pre>
 
   
'''Note: These numbers given by the CM are also questionable and should be taken with a grain of salt. It is difficult at this point to determine which numbers are correct without more player-collected data.'''
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Applying these formulae gives the following base miss rate for a Level 80 character with a 400 Weapon Skill:
   
Effectively, you can consider weapon skill to be the inverse of the [[defense]] skill.
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* v. Level 80 mob: 5.0% / dual-wield: 24%
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* v. Level 81 mob: 5.5% / dual-wield: 24.5%
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* v. Level 82 mob: 6.0% / dual-wield: 25%
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* v. Level 83 mob: 8.0% / dual-wield: 27%
   
Additionally, the [[Patch 2.0.1]] notes said:
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At level 80, 32.79 hit rating reduces your chance to miss by 1%.
   
* The player will gain 0.1% to their critical strike rating per weapon skill against monsters above their level.
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Thus if you are a Level 80 character with a Weapon Skill of 400, you need a Hit Rating of 263 (8.00%) to never miss a shot against a Level 83 boss (or skull mob) with a special attack or single-wield auto-attack. What this means is that there is a big +hit benefit to keeping your Weapon Skill within 10 levels of the mobs you are trying to fight. For example, by improving your Weapon Skill from 390 to 395, you effectively reduce your chance to miss against Level 81 mobs by 3%! However, after getting to 395, increasing your Weapon Skill the next 5 levels, to 400, only reduces your chance to miss by an additional 0.5% (or 3.5% in total).
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Prior to 3.0, the base miss chance when your target's defense was 11+ points higher than your weapon skill was 1% higher. Back then, there was a huge jump in miss rate reduction by going from, say, 349 to 350 Weapon Skill. This was the point where you switched from one formula to the other, and so this particular single point of Weapon Skill was worth a dramatic +1.4% hit against a Level 73 mob/boss.
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==== If your weapon skill EXCEEDS the mob's Defense skill, i.e. if the mob is lower level than you are ====
   
Presumably this is only for Weapon Skill over your level's natural cap (Level * 5). It was not known if you also got the additional 0.04% crit chance per additional +skill.
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* The base chance for your attack to miss the mob is 5% - (Weapon Skill - Defense Skill) * 0.04%.
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* The base chance for your attack to be a critical strike is 5% + (Weapon Skill - Defense Skill) * 0.04%.
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* The base chance for your attack to be dodged by the mob is 5% - (Weapon Skill - Defense Skill) * 0.04%.
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* The base chance for your attack to be parried by the mob is 5% - (Weapon Skill - Defense Skill) * 0.04%.
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* The base chance for your attack to be blocked by the mob is 5% - (Weapon Skill - Defense Skill) * 0.04%.
   
Weapon skills are maxed in pvp combat. While this means leveling a weapon for pvp is unimportant, racial attribrutes, talents, and weapons with +skill still affect pvp hit/crit rating. Many players, however, see the +skill in PvP as unimportant and you will still see many Orcs with PvP reward weapons besides the Axes.
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I.e., for '''each point''' that your weapon skill exceeds your opponent's [[defense]], your chance to miss, be dodged, be parried, and be blocked decreases by 0.04%, and your chance to crit increases by 0.04%. Effectively, you can consider weapon skill to be the inverse of the [[defense]] skill.
   
 
=== Glancing Blows ===
 
=== Glancing Blows ===
Against [[mobs]] with defense roughly equal to or higher than your [[Attack Rating]] (i.e. your weapon skill), you will have a chance to land a [[Glancing blow]] instead of a normal hit. A glancing blow only occurs on white melee damage, cannot crit, and does less damage than a normal blow. If the attacker's weapon skill is ''less'' than his level * 5, the damage reduction will be proportional to the difference between the attacker's weapon skill and the target's defense.
 
   
Back before patch 2.3, when Weapon Skill could be raised ''above'' your level * 5 from gear or racial bonuses, doing so never affected the chances of landing a [[glancing blow]], although the damage reduction from glancing blows was affected until patch 2.0 or so.
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Against [[mob]]s with defense roughly equal to or higher than your [[Attack Rating]] (i.e. your weapon skill), you will have a chance to land a [[glancing blow]] instead of a normal hit. A glancing blow only occurs on white melee damage, cannot crit, and does less damage than a normal blow. If the attacker's weapon skill is ''less'' than his level * 5, the damage reduction will be proportional to the difference between the attacker's weapon skill and the target's defense.
   
=== Chance to Miss ===
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Back before patch 2.0, when Weapon Skill could be raised ''above'' your level * 5 from gear or racial bonuses, the damage reduction when a glancing blow occurred was reduced somewhat for each point of additional Weapon Skill. This is no longer the case.
It has been definitively proven that, at least with respect to calculating miss rates and chance to hit, both the pre-BC formula and the Crezax post are inaccurate.
 
   
* If the difference between the mob's Defense Skill and your Weapon Skill is '''less than or equal to 10''' then the formula for calculating your base miss chance against that mob is: '''5% + (Defense Skill - Weapon Skill)*.1%'''
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=== Mob attacking a Player ===
   
* If the difference between the mob's Defense Skill and your Weapon Skill is '''greater than 10''', then the formula for calculating your base miss chance against that mob is: '''7% + (Defense Skill - Weapon Skill - 10)*.4%'''
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If a mob's weapon skill (its level * 5) is EQUAL TO your [[defense]], and you have no gear or talents that increase any of your defensive Ratings:
   
Note that these 2 formulae only govern attacks made against mobs. With attacks against players (either by mobs or by other players) where the attacker's Weapon Skill is lower than the target's Defense, the base Miss, Dodge, Parry, and Block chances are much less; see the [[Defense]] article for details.
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* Its chance to miss you is 5%.
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* Its chance to score a [[critical strike]] against you is 5%.
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* Your chance to [[block]] the attack is 5%.
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* Your chance to [[parry]] the attack is 5%.
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* Your chance to [[dodge]] the attack depends on your Agility.
   
Applying these formulae gives the following base miss rate for a Level 80 character with a 400 Weapon Skill:
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For each point that the mob's weapon skill (its level * 5) exceeds your [[defense]], it gains the following:
   
* v. Level 70 mob: 5.0% / dual-wield: 24%
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* Its chance to miss decreases by 0.04%.
* v. Level 71 mob: 5.5% / dual-wield: 24.5%
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* Its chance to score a critical strike increases by 0.04%.
* v. Level 72 mob: 6.0% / dual-wield: 25%
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* Your chance to block the attack decreases by 0.04%.
* v. Level 73 mob: 9.0% / dual-wield: 28%
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* Your chance to parry the attack decreases by 0.04%.
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* Your chance to dodge the attack decreases by 0.04%.
   
* v. 32.79 hit rating reduces your chance to miss by 1%
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For each point that the mob's weapon skill (its level * 5) is less than your [[defense]]:
   
Thus if you are a Level 80 character with a Weapon Skill of 400, you need a Hit Rating of 295 (9.00%) to almost never miss a shot against a Level 83 boss (or skull mob) with a special attack or single-wield auto-attack. What this means is that there is a big +hit benefit to keeping your Weapon Skill within 10 levels of the mobs you are trying to fight. For example, by improving your Weapon Skill from 390 to 395, you effectively reduce your chance to miss against Level 81 mobs by 3%! However, after getting to 395, increasing your Weapon Skill the next 5 levels, to 400, only reduces your chance to miss by an additional 0.5% (or 3.5% in total). Also, note that there is a huge jump in miss rate reduction by going from 394 to 395 Weapon Skill. This is the point where you switch from one formula to the other, and so this particular single point of Weapon Skill is worth a dramatic +1.4% hit against a Level 83 mob/boss.
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* Its chance to miss increases by 0.04%.
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* Its chance to score a critical strike decreases by 0.04%.
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* Your chance to block the attack increases by 0.04%.
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* Your chance to parry the attack increases by 0.04%.
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* Your chance to dodge the attack increases by 0.04%.
   
=== Chance to be Dodged, Parried, and Blocked ===
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=== Crushing Blows ===
The formulas for determining Dodge, Parry, and Block rates for attacks made vs. mobs are different from the formula above for determining Miss rate and are not all definitively known. As of [[Patch 2.4]], the best working models seem to be the following:
 
   
* The base chance for your attack to be dodged by a mob is: '''5% + (Defense Skill - Weapon Skill)*.1%'''
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If a mob's weapon skill (its level * 5) is at least '''20 points higher''' than the target's level-capped [[defense]] (the target's Defense skill capped at its level * 5), there is a chance the target will receive a [[Crushing Blow]].
   
* The base chance for your attack to be parried by a mob:
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=== Dazed ===
** If the difference between the mob's Defense Skill and your Weapon Skill is '''less than or equal to 10''', your base parry rate is: '''5% + (Defense Skill - Weapon Skill)*.1%'''.
 
** If the difference between the mob's Defense Skill and your Weapon Skill is '''greater than 10''', your base parry rate will be much higher. Exact figures are not known, but base parry rates of Boss mobs (effectively level 73 when attacked by level 70 players) are estimated to be between 10-15%, and may vary from one Boss to the next.
 
   
* The base chance for your attack to be blocked by a mob is probably the same as the base dodge rate, i.e.: '''5% + (Defense Skill - Weapon Skill)*.1%'''
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If a mob hits a target from behind, and the target takes damage from the hit that isn't [[Absorb]]ed, there is a chance the player will be [[Dazed]]. The base chance for a level 30+ target to be dazed when hit from behind, if the mob's weapon skill is equal to the target's defense skill, is ''20%''. This chance can get as low as 0% if the target's defense is high enough, or as high as 40% if the target's defense is low enough. If the target is below level 30, it's base chance to be dazed is less; a level 10 target with fully trained defense skill only has a 7% chance to be dazed when attacked from behind by a level 10 mob.
   
=== Crit Cap ===
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Note that your defense skill is NOT level-capped for purposes of determining your chance to be dazed. It is possible to become undazeable while wearing tank plate gear.
White-damage attacks made by a player with fully-trained weapon skill against a mob 3 levels higher have a fixed 24% chance of being glancing blows.
 
   
Therefore, with no +skill/+hit gear on, attacks made by a level 80 [[dual wield]]er against a level 83 mob have the following [[Attack table|table]] from the front:
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=== Player attacking a Player ===
   
{| class="darktable"
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Weapon skills are maxed in PvP combat. This means leveling a weapon skill for pvp is unimportant; when attacking an enemy player, your Weapon Skill will always be considered to be your level * 5, and your target's Defense will always be treated as their level * 5 (before any Defense Rating from your target's gear is added in).
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! Result
 
! Chance
 
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| Miss || ALIGN="RIGHT" | 28.0%
 
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| Dodge || ALIGN="RIGHT" | 6.5%
 
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| Parry || ALIGN="RIGHT" | At least 10%
 
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| Glancing Blow || ALIGN="RIGHT" | 24.0%
 
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| Block || ALIGN="RIGHT" | 6.5%
 
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| Combined hit + crit || ALIGN="RIGHT" | At most 24%
 
|}
 
   
Attacks against mobs made from the back cannot be blocked or parried (thus, attacking from behind will never trigger "parry haste" on the mob). Losing those values from the chart makes the "combined hit + crit" entry appropriately larger.
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Weapon skill does not affect your chance to hit other players in the battlegrounds or in the arena, but it still affects your hit chance against enemy players in world PvP or duels.
''Players'' cannot dodge, parry, or block attacks from the back.
 
   
It is not as bad if the same character attacks the same mob from the front with a two-handed weapon:
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== Increasing your weapon skill (at level 70+) ==
   
{| class="darktable"
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A good place to increase ranged DPS for higher level characters is [[Plague Sprayer]] in [[Zul'Drak]]. They are level 80 Elites that fly above [[Kolramas]]. They have a high amount of health and the only attack they have is a plague beam that shoots straight down.
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! Result
 
! Chance
 
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| Miss || ALIGN="RIGHT" | 9%
 
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| Dodge || ALIGN="RIGHT" | 6.5%
 
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| Parry || ALIGN="RIGHT" | At least 10%
 
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| Glancing Blow || ALIGN="RIGHT" | 24.0%
 
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| Block || ALIGN="RIGHT" | 6.5%
 
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| Combined hit + crit || ALIGN="RIGHT" | At most 43%
 
|}
 
   
This is a 43% + your +hit crit cap.
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The [[Primordial Drake Egg]]s in [[Sholazar Basin]] also work well for this; they are high 70's, and do not attack back.
   
All these crit caps could have been increased by increasing your Expertise (0.5% increase per point from the front) and by +hit (1% increase per percantage increase in your Hit chance).
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For ranged DPS (bows/guns) - [[Dr. Boom]] used to be an excellent choice - just bring enough ammo, and attack at will. Hunters had the best options with him due to auto-shoot. '''This no longer works as of 3.2.''' Likewise, the unkillable Servants in the Blasted Lands no longer skill you up when they are in their unkillable state.
   
Dual wield full raid buffs example from the front:
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Vendors in Dalaran sell white, low DPS weapons with extremely low attack speeds, making them great options for levelling weapon skill.
   
+0 hit +50% crit: 6.5% dodge, 10% parry, 28.0% miss, 6.5% block, 25% glancing blow, 24% crit
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If you have a relatively good health pool, you can skill up from the waves of creates inside the [[Violet Hold]]:
= 26% of your crit rate did nothing
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* Get some health restoring effects ([[Elixir_of_Mighty_Fortitude|here]], [[Swift_Hand_of_Justice|here]], [[Essence_Infused_Mushroom|here]], or [[Medallion_of_Heroism|here]], for example)
+6% hit +40% crit: 6.5% dodge, 10% parry, 6.5% block, 22.0% miss, 25% glancing blow, 30% crit
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* Set the [[Dungeon_difficulty|difficulty]] to Normal.
= 10% of your crit rate did nothing
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* Zone in and do ''not'' start the event.
+15% hit +31% crit: 6.5% dodge, 10% parry, 6.5% block, 13% miss, 25% glancing blow, 31% crit, 8% hit
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* Skill up by attacking the level 75 elite creatures, avoiding any which do too much damage for you to survive (this is not a problem at higher levels).
= no +crit was wasted in this example
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* You can pick a portal and stand near it to fight everything emerging from it. If you get overwhelmed, retreat to the friendly NPCs by the doorway (or stay there the whole time). If you get into too much trouble, run out!
   
Dual wield full raid buffs example from the back:
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== Historical effects of weapon skill ==
+0 hit +50% crit: 6.5% dodge, 28.0% miss, 25% glancing blow, 40.5% crit
 
= 9.5% of your crit rate did nothing
 
+6% hit +40% crit: 6.5% dodge, 22.0% miss, 25% glancing blow, 40% crit, 6.5% hit
 
= no +crit was wasted in this example
 
+15% hit +33% crit: 6.5% dodge, 13% miss, 25% glancing blow, 33.0% crit, 22.5% hit
 
= no +crit was wasted in this example
 
   
==== DPS Implications ====
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The effect of weapon skill has changed several times over the game's history. Prior to patch 2.0, some items granted extra Weapon Skill directly, making it possible to have a weapon skill in excess of your level * 5. Back then, the formula shown above for your weapon skill exceeding your opponent's defense also applied in the reverse situation, i.e. when your weapon skill was less than your opponent's defense.
Hit Rating is very important due to the crit cap. The following shows the difference in white damage between various stat options:
 
   
Assuming 30% crit and +0% hit from the front, its
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After the Burning Crusade went live, but prior to patch 2.1, CM [[Crezax]] made a post [http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=166546791&pageNo=1&sid=1#2] on the EU forums outlining the effect of weapon skill on higher-level mobs. Note that this refers only to monsters 3 levels higher than the player in PVE (i.e. boss level mobs). Corresponding numbers for 1 and 2 levels higher than the player are not known, but are likely lower.
6.5% block for say 80% damage (depends on a lot of things)
 
24% crit for 200% damage (impale doesn't work on white-damage attacks!)
 
25% glancing blow for 70% damage
 
44.5% miss, dodge, or parry for no damage
 
per swing its an average of .065 * .8 + .24 *2 + .25 * .7
 
= '''70.7%''' of your damage per swing
 
   
Assuming you add +5% hit, the numbers become...
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<pre>Let's say you increase your weapon skill by 4.
6.5% block for say 80% damage
 
29% crit for 200% damage
 
25% glancing blow for 70% damage
 
39.5% miss, dodge, or parry no damage
 
so per swing its an average of .065 * .8 + .29 *2 + .25 * .7
 
= '''80.7%''' of your damage per swing
 
   
=== Increasing your weapon skill (at level 70+) ===
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Against a mob 3 levels higher than you, you get: 0.8% lower chance to miss,
For ranged DPS (bows/guns) - [[Dr. Boom]] is an excellent choice - just bring enough ammo, and attack at will. Hunters have the best options with him due to auto-shoot.
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0.4% lower chance to get dodged, 2.4% to be parried, and a 0.8% higher
'''This no longer works as of 3.2.'''
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chance to crit.</pre>
   
Another good place to increase ranged DPS for higher level characters is [[Plague Sprayer]] in [[Zul'Drak]]. They are level 80 Elites that fly above [[Kolramas]]. They have a high amount of health and the only attack they have is a plague beam that shoots straight down.
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These numbers given by the CM were questionable, and were rightly taken with a grain of salt.
   
An option to raise weapon skills are the [[Gordok Spirit]]s in [[Dire Maul]] North. They are located in the last room. Make sure that you DON'T kill the boss since the spirits would despawn after his death. The spirits don't fight back and have an unlimited amount of health, so it's the optimal place to just go AFK while automatically weapon skill raising progresses. Note that the game won't log you out since you will be in-fight as long as you hang out there increasing your skills. ***As of 3.1 this no longer works***
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Additionally, the [[Patch 2.0.1]] notes said:
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* The player will gain 0.1% to their critical strike rating per weapon skill against monsters above their level.
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Presumably this was only for Weapon Skill over your level's natural cap (Level * 5), a state of affairs which no longer exists as of patch 2.3. It was not known if you also got the additional 0.04% crit chance per additional +skill.
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Since items with Weapon Skill or Weapon Skill Rating used to reduce your chance to miss, to be dodged, to be parried, and to be blocked, they could increase your "crit cap" as described in the [[Critical strike]] article.
   
== Increasing your weapon skill beyond (level * 5) ==
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== Historical: Increasing your weapon skill beyond (level * 5) ==
{{I-note|The subject of this section has out-of-date information and should be updated to reflect the latest World of Warcraft patch information.|content=''Weapon skill ratings have been replaced by [[Expertise]].''}}
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{{I-note|The subject of this section refers to an out-of-date release of the game, and is provided for historical purposes only.|content=''Weapon skill ratings have been replaced by [[Expertise]].''}}
   
 
=== Itemization ===
 
=== Itemization ===
Itemization for +weapon skill is spotty.
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Prior to patch 2.3, a few items in the game granted the wielder Weapon Skill Rating. Even then, though, itemization for +weapon skill was spotty.
   
 
==== 2.0.1 Skill Rating conversion ====
 
==== 2.0.1 Skill Rating conversion ====
The Weapon Skill figures in the above item chart used to be from the old pre-2.0 system, where +weapon skill was given to items directly. Under the new [[combat rating system]], the above items now all have a Weapon Skill Rating bonus instead.
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Prior to patch 2.0, instead of Weapon Skill Rating, items granted their wielder Weapon Skill directly; e.g. a mace might say "Increases your skill with maces by 5." Under the new [[combat rating system]] introduced in 2.0.1, those items now all had a Weapon Skill Rating bonus instead.
   
It takes 2.5 points of Weapon Skill Rating at level 60, and 3.9 points of Weapon Skill Rating at level 70, to increase your actual Weapon Skill by 1.
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It took 2.5 points of Weapon Skill Rating at level 60, and 3.9 points of Weapon Skill Rating at level 70, to increase your actual Weapon Skill by 1.
   
In applying the miss rate formulae listed in the "Chance to Miss" section above, fractional Weapon Skill levels are dropped, not rounded. So, say you have are a Level 70 character, and you equip a piece of gear that gives +15 Mace Skill Rating. In theory, this equates to 3.8 +Weapon Skill Level. And, in theory, Blizzard could have used the fractional .8 in its subsequent calculations of hit and miss, or, perhaps, rounded it to 4.0. But it doesn’t work that way. Instead, the fractional .8 Weapon Skill is simply dropped altogether. You get 353 Weapon Skill for purposes of all hit and miss calculations.
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In applying the miss rate formulae listed in the "Chance to Miss" section above, fractional Weapon Skill levels were dropped, not rounded. So, say you had are a Level 70 character, and you equipped a piece of gear that gave +15 Mace Skill Rating. In theory, this equated to 3.8 +Weapon Skill. And, in theory, Blizzard could have used the fractional .8 in its subsequent calculations of hit and miss, or, perhaps, rounded it to 4.0. But it didn’t work that way. Instead, the fractional .8 Weapon Skill was simply dropped altogether. You got 353 Weapon Skill for purposes of all hit and miss calculations.
   
Another interesting point is that if you are able to stack your Weapon Skill ''above'' 365, you will find that each additional point of Weapon Skill above 365 continues to decrease your chance to miss by .1% per Weapon Skill level. So if your Weapon Skill is 366, your chance to miss is 4.9%, if 367, 4.8%, etc.
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Another interesting point was that if you are able to stack your Weapon Skill ''above'' 365 at level 70, you'd find that each additional point of Weapon Skill above 365 continues to decrease your chance to miss by .1% per Weapon Skill level. So if your Weapon Skill was 366, your chance to miss was 4.9%, if 367, 4.8%, etc.
   
=== Talents ===
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=== Pre-2.3 Talents ===
 
[[Rogue]]s:
 
[[Rogue]]s:
   
*[[Weapon Expertise]] talent increases skill with Swords, Fists, and Daggers by 5 (rank 1) or by 10 (rank 2).
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*[[Weapon Expertise]] talent increased skill with Swords, Fists, and Daggers by 5 (rank 1) or by 10 (rank 2).
*[[Mace Specialization]] talent increases skill with Maces by 2 per talent point spent (max 10).
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*[[Mace Specialization]] talent increased skill with Maces by 2 per talent point spent (max 10).
   
 
[[Warrior]]s:
 
[[Warrior]]s:
   
*[[Weapon Mastery]] talent increases skill with all weapons by 2 (rank 1) or by 4 (rank 2).
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*[[Weapon Mastery]] talent increased skill with all weapons by 2 (rank 1) or by 4 (rank 2).
   
 
[[Paladin]]s:
 
[[Paladin]]s:
   
*[[Combat Expertise]] talent increases skill with all weapons by 2 per talent point spent (max 10).
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*[[Combat Expertise]] talent increased skill with all weapons by 2 per talent point spent (max 10).
   
=== Racial Bonuses ===
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=== Pre-2.3 Racial Bonuses ===
 
*[[Humans]]: +5 sword skill, +5 mace skill, +5 two-handed sword skill, +5 two-handed mace skill
 
*[[Humans]]: +5 sword skill, +5 mace skill, +5 two-handed sword skill, +5 two-handed mace skill
 
*[[Dwarves]]: +5 gun skill
 
*[[Dwarves]]: +5 gun skill
*[[Orcs]]: +5 axe skill, +5 two-handed axe skill
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*[[Orcs]]: +5 axe skill, +5 two-handed axe skill, +5 fist weapon skill
 
*[[Trolls]]: +5 bow skill, +5 throwing weapon skill
 
*[[Trolls]]: +5 bow skill, +5 throwing weapon skill
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== Patch changes ==
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*{{Patch 4.0.1|note=
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:;From [[blue post]]:
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{{bluepost
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|poster=Ancilorn
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|title=Cataclysm - Stat Changes
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|body='''<span style="color:white;">Planned Stat and System Changes</span>'''<br/>...<br/>'''<span style="color:white;">Weapon Skill</span>''' - This stat will be removed from the game completely. Classes will start with all the weapon skills they need to know and will not need to improve them.
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<br/>...
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|link=http://blue.mmo-champion.com/topic/82/cataclysm-stat-changes
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}}
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}}
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*{{patch 3.0.8|note=You can no longer skill up weapons on mobs that are immune to damage.}}
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*{{Patch 2.4.0|note=Points will be gained faster in weapon skills for levels 1 through 59.}}
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*{{Patch 2.3.0|note=All items and abilities that granted weapon skill have been changed. In most cases, they were converted to expertise or expertise rating. Ranged attacks do not benefit from expertise, so ranged weapon skill has generally been replaced by critical strike bonuses or hit bonuses. In a few cases, talents have been changed to other effects to avoid granting players excessive amounts of expertise.}}
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*{{Patch 2.0.1|note=Weapon skill will no longer reduce the percentage damage lost due to glancing. The player will gain 0.1% to their critical strike rating per weapon skill against monsters above their level.}}
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*{{Patch 1.4.0|note=Fixed a bug where weapon skills were inappropriately capped at 5 times level. Characters should now gain benefit from weapon skill bonuses beyond their normal cap.}}
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*{{Patch 1.3.0|note=Skill-up rate improved for bows, crossbows, guns, thrown, and wands.}}
   
 
==See also==
 
==See also==
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==External links==
 
==External links==
*[http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/underdev/implemented/2p01.html 2.0.1 Patch Notes]
 
 
*[http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=14381707&sid=1 Zoroaster's Crit, Hit, Weapon Skill and damage formulas]
 
*[http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=14381707&sid=1 Zoroaster's Crit, Hit, Weapon Skill and damage formulas]
 
*[http://elitistjerks.com/f31/t16940-roguecraft_101_a/ ElitistJerks' Roguecraft 101] (contains mention of base Dodge chance of bosses)
 
*[http://elitistjerks.com/f31/t16940-roguecraft_101_a/ ElitistJerks' Roguecraft 101] (contains mention of base Dodge chance of bosses)
 
 
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Latest revision as of 01:20, August 25, 2019

Weapon skill represents your proficiency with a particular weapon. The basic formula for your maximum weapon skill at a particular level is (5 * level). Each attack which is not evaded has a chance to increase weapon skill, with low weapon skill, the skill gain rate is at or near 100%, however the skill gain change begins to sharply decrease once the weapon skill cap is approached. At 10% away from the cap, the skill gain chance is roughly 50%, and gaining the final skill point can take hundreds of swings. The chance per swing seems to be unrelated to weapon speed, making low spead weapons better. Instant attacks like Sinister Strike and Hamstring help to increase your weapon skill faster. Note that attacking Evading enemies will not increase your weapon skill.

It has been confirmed that intellect increases the rate at which weapon skills are learned. Before Patch 2.0, this was listed in the tooltip but was removed shortly after that. If you want to level a weapon skill, try asking for an intellect buff or using a scroll which can help the process. Similarly, equip any gear you have that has an Intellect bonus on it—if you're a paladin, put on your Holy gear and cast Blessing of Kings; if you're a shaman, put on your Elemental or Restoration gear.

In Patch 2.3, stats on melee weapons which granted an increase to weapon skill were replaced by an increase to expertise rating. Items which granted ranged weapon skill increases instead now grant increases to hit or critical strike rating.

In Cataclysm weapon skill is removed as all weapon proficiencies available to the classes are learned from the start at full skill.

Effects of weapon skill Edit

Player attacking a mob Edit

If your weapon skill is LESS THAN OR EQUAL TO the mob's Defense skill (the mob's level * 5) Edit

  • The base chance for your attack to miss the mob:
    • If the difference between the mob's Defense Skill and your Weapon Skill is less than or equal to 10 then the formula for calculating your base miss chance against that mob is: 5% + (Defense Skill - Weapon Skill)*.1%
    • If the difference between the mob's Defense Skill and your Weapon Skill is greater than 10, then the formula for calculating your base miss chance against that mob is: 6% + (Defense Skill - Weapon Skill - 10)*.4%
  • The base chance for your attack to be a critical strike is: 5% - (Defense Skill - Weapon Skill)*0.04%
  • The base chance for your attack to be dodged by the mob is: 5% + (Defense Skill - Weapon Skill)*.1%
  • The base chance for your attack to be parried by the mob:
    • If the difference between the mob's Defense Skill and your Weapon Skill is less than or equal to 10, your base parry rate is: 5% + (Defense Skill - Weapon Skill)*.1%.
    • If the difference between the mob's Defense Skill and your Weapon Skill is greater than 10, your base parry rate will be much higher. Exact figures are not known, but base parry rates of Boss mobs (effectively level 73 when attacked by level 70 players) are estimated to be between 10-15%, and may vary from one Boss to the next.
  • The base chance for your attack to be blocked by the mob is probably the same as the base dodge rate, i.e.: 5% + (Defense Skill - Weapon Skill)*.1%

Applying these formulae gives the following base miss rate for a Level 80 character with a 400 Weapon Skill:

  • v. Level 80 mob: 5.0% / dual-wield: 24%
  • v. Level 81 mob: 5.5% / dual-wield: 24.5%
  • v. Level 82 mob: 6.0% / dual-wield: 25%
  • v. Level 83 mob: 8.0% / dual-wield: 27%

At level 80, 32.79 hit rating reduces your chance to miss by 1%.

Thus if you are a Level 80 character with a Weapon Skill of 400, you need a Hit Rating of 263 (8.00%) to never miss a shot against a Level 83 boss (or skull mob) with a special attack or single-wield auto-attack. What this means is that there is a big +hit benefit to keeping your Weapon Skill within 10 levels of the mobs you are trying to fight. For example, by improving your Weapon Skill from 390 to 395, you effectively reduce your chance to miss against Level 81 mobs by 3%! However, after getting to 395, increasing your Weapon Skill the next 5 levels, to 400, only reduces your chance to miss by an additional 0.5% (or 3.5% in total).

Prior to 3.0, the base miss chance when your target's defense was 11+ points higher than your weapon skill was 1% higher. Back then, there was a huge jump in miss rate reduction by going from, say, 349 to 350 Weapon Skill. This was the point where you switched from one formula to the other, and so this particular single point of Weapon Skill was worth a dramatic +1.4% hit against a Level 73 mob/boss.

If your weapon skill EXCEEDS the mob's Defense skill, i.e. if the mob is lower level than you are Edit

  • The base chance for your attack to miss the mob is 5% - (Weapon Skill - Defense Skill) * 0.04%.
  • The base chance for your attack to be a critical strike is 5% + (Weapon Skill - Defense Skill) * 0.04%.
  • The base chance for your attack to be dodged by the mob is 5% - (Weapon Skill - Defense Skill) * 0.04%.
  • The base chance for your attack to be parried by the mob is 5% - (Weapon Skill - Defense Skill) * 0.04%.
  • The base chance for your attack to be blocked by the mob is 5% - (Weapon Skill - Defense Skill) * 0.04%.

I.e., for each point that your weapon skill exceeds your opponent's defense, your chance to miss, be dodged, be parried, and be blocked decreases by 0.04%, and your chance to crit increases by 0.04%. Effectively, you can consider weapon skill to be the inverse of the defense skill.

Glancing Blows Edit

Against mobs with defense roughly equal to or higher than your Attack Rating (i.e. your weapon skill), you will have a chance to land a glancing blow instead of a normal hit. A glancing blow only occurs on white melee damage, cannot crit, and does less damage than a normal blow. If the attacker's weapon skill is less than his level * 5, the damage reduction will be proportional to the difference between the attacker's weapon skill and the target's defense.

Back before patch 2.0, when Weapon Skill could be raised above your level * 5 from gear or racial bonuses, the damage reduction when a glancing blow occurred was reduced somewhat for each point of additional Weapon Skill. This is no longer the case.

Mob attacking a Player Edit

If a mob's weapon skill (its level * 5) is EQUAL TO your defense, and you have no gear or talents that increase any of your defensive Ratings:

  • Its chance to miss you is 5%.
  • Its chance to score a critical strike against you is 5%.
  • Your chance to block the attack is 5%.
  • Your chance to parry the attack is 5%.
  • Your chance to dodge the attack depends on your Agility.

For each point that the mob's weapon skill (its level * 5) exceeds your defense, it gains the following:

  • Its chance to miss decreases by 0.04%.
  • Its chance to score a critical strike increases by 0.04%.
  • Your chance to block the attack decreases by 0.04%.
  • Your chance to parry the attack decreases by 0.04%.
  • Your chance to dodge the attack decreases by 0.04%.

For each point that the mob's weapon skill (its level * 5) is less than your defense:

  • Its chance to miss increases by 0.04%.
  • Its chance to score a critical strike decreases by 0.04%.
  • Your chance to block the attack increases by 0.04%.
  • Your chance to parry the attack increases by 0.04%.
  • Your chance to dodge the attack increases by 0.04%.

Crushing Blows Edit

If a mob's weapon skill (its level * 5) is at least 20 points higher than the target's level-capped defense (the target's Defense skill capped at its level * 5), there is a chance the target will receive a Crushing Blow.

Dazed Edit

If a mob hits a target from behind, and the target takes damage from the hit that isn't Absorbed, there is a chance the player will be Dazed. The base chance for a level 30+ target to be dazed when hit from behind, if the mob's weapon skill is equal to the target's defense skill, is 20%. This chance can get as low as 0% if the target's defense is high enough, or as high as 40% if the target's defense is low enough. If the target is below level 30, it's base chance to be dazed is less; a level 10 target with fully trained defense skill only has a 7% chance to be dazed when attacked from behind by a level 10 mob.

Note that your defense skill is NOT level-capped for purposes of determining your chance to be dazed. It is possible to become undazeable while wearing tank plate gear.

Player attacking a Player Edit

Weapon skills are maxed in PvP combat. This means leveling a weapon skill for pvp is unimportant; when attacking an enemy player, your Weapon Skill will always be considered to be your level * 5, and your target's Defense will always be treated as their level * 5 (before any Defense Rating from your target's gear is added in).

Weapon skill does not affect your chance to hit other players in the battlegrounds or in the arena, but it still affects your hit chance against enemy players in world PvP or duels.

Increasing your weapon skill (at level 70+) Edit

A good place to increase ranged DPS for higher level characters is Plague Sprayer in Zul'Drak. They are level 80 Elites that fly above Kolramas. They have a high amount of health and the only attack they have is a plague beam that shoots straight down.

The Primordial Drake Eggs in Sholazar Basin also work well for this; they are high 70's, and do not attack back.

For ranged DPS (bows/guns) - Dr. Boom used to be an excellent choice - just bring enough ammo, and attack at will. Hunters had the best options with him due to auto-shoot. This no longer works as of 3.2. Likewise, the unkillable Servants in the Blasted Lands no longer skill you up when they are in their unkillable state.

Vendors in Dalaran sell white, low DPS weapons with extremely low attack speeds, making them great options for levelling weapon skill.

If you have a relatively good health pool, you can skill up from the waves of creates inside the Violet Hold:

  • Get some health restoring effects (here, here, here, or here, for example)
  • Set the difficulty to Normal.
  • Zone in and do not start the event.
  • Skill up by attacking the level 75 elite creatures, avoiding any which do too much damage for you to survive (this is not a problem at higher levels).
  • You can pick a portal and stand near it to fight everything emerging from it. If you get overwhelmed, retreat to the friendly NPCs by the doorway (or stay there the whole time). If you get into too much trouble, run out!

Historical effects of weapon skill Edit

The effect of weapon skill has changed several times over the game's history. Prior to patch 2.0, some items granted extra Weapon Skill directly, making it possible to have a weapon skill in excess of your level * 5. Back then, the formula shown above for your weapon skill exceeding your opponent's defense also applied in the reverse situation, i.e. when your weapon skill was less than your opponent's defense.

After the Burning Crusade went live, but prior to patch 2.1, CM Crezax made a post [1] on the EU forums outlining the effect of weapon skill on higher-level mobs. Note that this refers only to monsters 3 levels higher than the player in PVE (i.e. boss level mobs). Corresponding numbers for 1 and 2 levels higher than the player are not known, but are likely lower.

Let's say you increase your weapon skill by 4.

Against a mob 3 levels higher than you, you get: 0.8% lower chance to miss,
0.4% lower chance to get dodged, 2.4% to be parried, and a 0.8% higher
chance to crit.

These numbers given by the CM were questionable, and were rightly taken with a grain of salt.

Additionally, the Patch 2.0.1 notes said:

  • The player will gain 0.1% to their critical strike rating per weapon skill against monsters above their level.

Presumably this was only for Weapon Skill over your level's natural cap (Level * 5), a state of affairs which no longer exists as of patch 2.3. It was not known if you also got the additional 0.04% crit chance per additional +skill.

Since items with Weapon Skill or Weapon Skill Rating used to reduce your chance to miss, to be dodged, to be parried, and to be blocked, they could increase your "crit cap" as described in the Critical strike article.

Historical: Increasing your weapon skill beyond (level * 5) Edit

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Note: The subject of this section refers to an out-of-date release of the game, and is provided for historical purposes only.

Weapon skill ratings have been replaced by Expertise.

Itemization Edit

Prior to patch 2.3, a few items in the game granted the wielder Weapon Skill Rating. Even then, though, itemization for +weapon skill was spotty.

2.0.1 Skill Rating conversion Edit

Prior to patch 2.0, instead of Weapon Skill Rating, items granted their wielder Weapon Skill directly; e.g. a mace might say "Increases your skill with maces by 5." Under the new combat rating system introduced in 2.0.1, those items now all had a Weapon Skill Rating bonus instead.

It took 2.5 points of Weapon Skill Rating at level 60, and 3.9 points of Weapon Skill Rating at level 70, to increase your actual Weapon Skill by 1.

In applying the miss rate formulae listed in the "Chance to Miss" section above, fractional Weapon Skill levels were dropped, not rounded. So, say you had are a Level 70 character, and you equipped a piece of gear that gave +15 Mace Skill Rating. In theory, this equated to 3.8 +Weapon Skill. And, in theory, Blizzard could have used the fractional .8 in its subsequent calculations of hit and miss, or, perhaps, rounded it to 4.0. But it didn’t work that way. Instead, the fractional .8 Weapon Skill was simply dropped altogether. You got 353 Weapon Skill for purposes of all hit and miss calculations.

Another interesting point was that if you are able to stack your Weapon Skill above 365 at level 70, you'd find that each additional point of Weapon Skill above 365 continues to decrease your chance to miss by .1% per Weapon Skill level. So if your Weapon Skill was 366, your chance to miss was 4.9%, if 367, 4.8%, etc.

Pre-2.3 Talents Edit

Rogues:

  • Weapon Expertise talent increased skill with Swords, Fists, and Daggers by 5 (rank 1) or by 10 (rank 2).
  • Mace Specialization talent increased skill with Maces by 2 per talent point spent (max 10).

Warriors:

  • Weapon Mastery talent increased skill with all weapons by 2 (rank 1) or by 4 (rank 2).

Paladins:

  • Combat Expertise talent increased skill with all weapons by 2 per talent point spent (max 10).

Pre-2.3 Racial Bonuses Edit

  • Humans: +5 sword skill, +5 mace skill, +5 two-handed sword skill, +5 two-handed mace skill
  • Dwarves: +5 gun skill
  • Orcs: +5 axe skill, +5 two-handed axe skill, +5 fist weapon skill
  • Trolls: +5 bow skill, +5 throwing weapon skill

Patch changes Edit

From blue post
Blizz
Cataclysm - Stat Changes Ancilorn
Planned Stat and System Changes
...
Weapon Skill - This stat will be removed from the game completely. Classes will start with all the weapon skills they need to know and will not need to improve them.
...

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  • Wrath-Logo-Small Patch 3.0.8 (2009-01-20): You can no longer skill up weapons on mobs that are immune to damage.
  • Bc icon Patch 2.4.0 (25-Mar-2008): Points will be gained faster in weapon skills for levels 1 through 59.
  • Bc icon Patch 2.3.0 (13-Nov-2007): All items and abilities that granted weapon skill have been changed. In most cases, they were converted to expertise or expertise rating. Ranged attacks do not benefit from expertise, so ranged weapon skill has generally been replaced by critical strike bonuses or hit bonuses. In a few cases, talents have been changed to other effects to avoid granting players excessive amounts of expertise.
  • WoW Icon 16x16/ Bc icon Patch 2.0.1 (05-Dec-2006): Weapon skill will no longer reduce the percentage damage lost due to glancing. The player will gain 0.1% to their critical strike rating per weapon skill against monsters above their level.
  • WoW Icon 16x16 Patch 1.4.0 (2005-05-05): Fixed a bug where weapon skills were inappropriately capped at 5 times level. Characters should now gain benefit from weapon skill bonuses beyond their normal cap.
  • WoW Icon 16x16 Patch 1.3.0 (07-Mar-2005): Skill-up rate improved for bows, crossbows, guns, thrown, and wands.

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