Again, welcome!   --PcjGamepedia wiki manager (TDrop me a line!C58,964 contributions and counting) 15:35, 26 December 2007 (UTC)


You can sign with User:Xavius/SigX in the stead of User:Xavius/Sig to make just a template appear on the talk page as opposed to all your sig code. You do not have to, but it makes things cleaner.--User:Sandwichman2448/Sig 20:29, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

Thank you, I was looking for something like this. IconSmall Satyr XAVIUS, the Satyr Lord (Praise · Creations) 17:20, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

Are you signing with the template, or just the raw code? You sig seems to eat text after it. No offence, there is nothing wrong with the sig itself, but it eats the text after it. The sigX will make any updates made to it happen to every one of your signings on every page it is used.--User:Sandwichman2448/Sig 17:48, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

I don't know why, I've done what I was told. Also, sometimes the sig coats the rest of the page in blue. Weird. Xavius, the Satyr Lord 17:09, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

I can try to fix the sig. In your preferences under User profile, what does the box after Signature say?--User:Sandwichman2448/Sig 17:53, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

(It's blue again!) Strange enough, it says { {SUBST:User:Xavius/Sig}}, (spacing deliberate) but I'm sure it didn't before... Xavius, the Satyr Lord 17:09, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Anyone? Please help? -Xavius again

Think it works now. Xavius, the Satyr Lord 16:16, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

I am sorry for my rude behavior. The template is not a rule, it was just a way to fix all of your signings at once.--User:Sandwichman2448/Sig 22:14, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

No, you're not rude. Sorry if you took it as if I took it as if you were rude. I think I'll go with my current sig options for the moment. And I'm removing the blue parts here. Xavius, the Satyr Lord 17:09, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Ehy Xavius, your sign doesn't work again. Please, fix it :) --N'Nanz (talk) 16:46, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, I just saw a talk page you edited before you fixed your sign (Talk:Gamon)) ;) --N'Nanz (talk) 16:51, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

Picture of Draka

Can you take a shot of this Draka image from the WoW bestiary and submit it to the wiki? No confusion could then be made.--K ) (talk) 21:58, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

I will do that. Xavius, the Satyr Lord 11:36, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

Creating new user templates

If you don't like the design of some of the user templates, nobody will stop you from improving them. You have created some new templates with the same use as other ones, and I think being bold is better than making duplicates of things. I personally think your template designs are cool, and you should share them with the rest of the community! Also, remember to categorize and add them to WoWWiki:List of user templates. --OseTalkz / Contribz 20:15, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Yea, I'd say update them, rather than making duplicates, or just do as I have done, make the the template on the page it's going on, no sense in making a brand new page that would be kept hidden. User:Coobra/Sig3 20:24, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
If I overwrite other templates, don't you think that the makers of those templates would dislike that I do that to their work? I know I would. Xavius, the Satyr Lord 10:51, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
Nobody will protest if you make improvements. If you're unsure, ask on it's talk page. --OseTalkz / Contribz 17:25, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
Who am I to judge if changing something to fit my personal preferences is "improving"? It's like if I painted the Mona Lisa's hair purple because I think it looks better. Da Vinci probably wouldn't like it. Xavius, the Satyr Lord 19:06, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
In the immortal words of Hobinheim: We don't sign our templates 'round these parts. It's a group project. Names tend to shy new editors away from contributing for fear of stomping on other people's work. Hail communism! You do sign your templates (I mentioned this before a bit), but focus on the 'group' part. Change things for the better, then if it is bad people will revert it (You can not revert paint much). Honestly trying to help is not vandalism. People will assume good faith n the spirit of the wiki.--User:Sandwichman2448/Sig 22:09, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
It's just that. I'm not "honestly trying to help" anyone. I'm trying to make my own versions. Since I don't like people tampering with my work because they're "honestly trying to help", I won't do the same to them either. It's not like it's Highlander here. Xavius, the Satyr Lord 12:16, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

In that case, I'd suggest when you make new templates for the purpose of just using them yourself, put them in your user space [[User:WoWWiki-Xavius/<template>], and don't place a category into it, that way it will be (more or less) ignored. That what I basically did for my personal templates... course... Ose took them and added them to the list, but.... what was I saying? User:Coobra/Sig3 04:26, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

I'm not making new templates for my own purpose, quite the contrary actually. I just don't want to ruin someone else's work. Xavius, the Satyr Lord 16:04, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
Yessesss... precious templatesssss.... musssst take thems from pesky little hobbitsess and add them to the listsss... --OseTalkz / Contribz 20:08, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

Re: Timeline

I've only just realised by chance that back in February you asked about the personal timeline I did (see here. For one reason or another, I wasn't alerted to it.

Anyway, BCE is taken from our own dating system, standing for "Before Current Era." Now granted, in many timelines, the start of the current era is, as you said, the opening of the Dark Portal. However, I see this more as a reference by Blizzard to provide a guide to the order of events leading up to WOW, as opposed to being a 'real world' timeline. As devastating as the First War was and the events that followed, I still don't think that Azeroth or any nation for that matter would change their calendar just for that. If there were an 'Age' system like that found in LotR, then perhaps it could work, but to date, there's been no solid evidence of that.

So as such, the timeline is based on the dating of the WC1 manual, the orcs attacking Stormwind in 583. Such numerical dates were continued up to Beyond the Dark Portal, though the timeline of the First War had been reduced. We'll probably never know what Year 0 was on the calendar and I doubt that even Blizzard gave it thought. Still, it's a personal timeline and one that I wouldn't try to put up on a canon wiki due to the presence of "educated guesses" (speculation). Still, it works well for personal reference in any discussions I may have on the issue, considering that I try to make it all encompassing.

Sorry for the late response. Cheers.--Hawki 22:44, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

Oh, I'd completely forgotten about that! Well, I guess if Blizzard wants us to know what year 0 is, then they'll tell us (if it hasn't been retconned). Xavius, the Satyr Lord 16:02, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

Year zero is the start of the first war.--Sandwichman2449 16:04, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
Yes, but not the year zero we're talking about. Please do read Hawki's post. I am thinking that, since "year zeroes" on earth are (mostly, at least) based on major religious events, perhaps it has something to do with the Church of the Holy Light? It's founding? Xavius, the Satyr Lord 16:13, 4 May 2008 (UTC)


First of all, thankyou for adding new images to replace old ones. But if you could in the future just upload the new one over the old one rather than just adding a number or slightly changing the name. In otherwords, rather than create Image:Lars2.JPG and place it on the page with Image:Lars.jpg not being used (or marked for deletion), you could just simply go to Image:Lars.jpg and select the option 'Upload a new version of this file'. That way you won't even have to worry about changing the npc's article. User:Coobra/Sig3 19:32, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

You're right, sorry, I just thought it safest that way. If you're wondering why I am changing images in the first place, it's for tow reasons mainly: to get images without those green circles beneath the characters, and two, to replace the "Placeholder" images of bot-generated NPC articles. Also, I think NPC images look better from a little angle (see my images), do you agree? Xavius, the Satyr Lord (talk) 08:49, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

You're still not doing it right. User:Gourra/Sig2 09:05, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

May have somethign to do with my computer saving images in "JPG" rather than "jpg". No idea how to change this. Xavius, the Satyr Lord (talk) 09:07, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
...did you completely ignore what Coobra said above? User:Gourra/Sig2 09:27, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
Eh, no? I replace images when I upload. Xavius, the Satyr Lord (talk) 09:29, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
No, you don't. You upload a new image under a new file name, instead of under an old file name. Youll have to go to the "old" image, select "Upload a new version of this file", and select the new image. User:Gourra/Sig2 09:33, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
Ah, missed that! I am very sorry, from now on I will only do it that way. Xavius, the Satyr Lord (talk) 10:11, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
Sorry, doesn't work. Something about "wrong extensions", or something. Xavius, the Satyr Lord (talk) 10:15, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
That's because you try and overwrite .jpg images with ones that are .png. User:Gourra/Sig2 10:17, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
That's because JPGs are all kinda blurry to me. PNGs, however, are crystal clear. Xavius, the Satyr Lord (talk) 10:21, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

Please do not refer to edits as vandalism when they are not. It is not good faith, and can be rather insulting. The PNG images you are uploading are huge in comparison to the equivalent quality JPG images - this is why they are being replaced. Compare Image:Lanthan_Perilon.PNG and Image:Lanthan Perilon.jpg and then compare the file size. Kirkburn  talk  contr 12:56, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

Equivalent quality? The JPGs are, like, half the quality of the PNGs! PNG has much richer and deeper colors compared to the JPGs, which look like they have been coated in a thick layer of dust. Xavius, the Satyr Lord (talk) 13:03, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
I can barely make out any difference whatsoever - only by switching between the two can you tell. The file size is 59KB compared to 406KB, almost eight times the size. Even if the jpg was saved in higher quality, it would still be drastically lower in file size. I should also point out that having the NPC selected is part of the guidelines for NPC images - see WoWWiki:Image guidelines#Screenshot layout. It would probably be a good idea if you started a discussion on WoWWiki talk:Image guidelines if you think that should change. (Even so, thanks for taking the time to upload screenshots!) Kirkburn  talk  contr 13:09, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
What?! Selected?! An outrage, that's what it is! Those green/yellow/red circles SERIOUSLY detract the overall quality of the image! You bet your account I will start a discussion, and that immediately. Xavius, the Satyr Lord (talk) 13:12, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
Hehe :) Actually regarding the image quality, I just compared [1] and [2], and I see the issue. The wiki appears to resize JPGs with a really low quality filter. I take back the complaint. Kirkburn  talk  contr 13:13, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
That is indeed fortunate, I was beginning to wonder if had some kind of hallucinations. I will cease uploading images until a result in the voting has been reached. This "NPC Re-Imaging Project" it has become a kind of hobby project for me (Falconwing Square is almost completed). Xavius, the Satyr Lord (talk) 13:25, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
I'm seeing if we can get the jpg quality increased atm. Kirkburn  talk  contr 13:31, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

Since you plan to do this for every NPC with a circle at its feet, you should start using [[Category:NPC screenshots]] and [[Category:Mob screenshots]] in the summary box before uploading the image. And it's not vandalism when it's being fixed to the correct way, if you didn't notice I kept the PNG files in use if they were under 250KB, however if they were just a bit above to where some cropping would put it under that was done to it. Hence why the Sword was cropped out in the outrunner shot. Since you put it back, it will have to become a jpg. User:Coobra/Sig3 01:17, 15 July 2008 (UTC)


Xavius, I like a lot of your work, I really do, but WoWWiki is not a hosting service. --Ragestorm (talk · contr) 03:05, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

I am afraid you gravely misunderstand me. I do not mean to use WoWWiki as a simple hosting service, I upload the images here so others can look at them, just like I upload fanfiction so others can read it. Xavius, the Satyr Lord (talk) 13:27, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

In other words, you're using WoWWiki as a complex hosting service (as opposed to a simple hosting service). As I understand it, uploading images so others can look at them is the job of a hosting service, correct me if I'm wrong. You're not in violation of DNP policies, so I'm not taking any other action than mentioning it. --Ragestorm (talk · contr) 17:07, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
I'm sorry if I'm behaving like some kind of parasite. Xavius, the Satyr Lord (talk) 17:23, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
I've seen many a parasite here. You're not one at all (well, your username could be a bit more creative). No, a parasite is one of those things that tries to put their fanfiction in articles, fanart in infoboxes and thinks that "lorelol" is an official term used in "the Outlands." You're certainly not a parasite by my standards, you're more of a satyr. ;-P --Ragestorm (talk · contr) 17:30, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
I sense a new term: Satyr - A user using WoWWiki to host Warcraft fan-art. And what's whit my username? Xavius, the Satyr Lord (talk) 18:19, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
Having a username that's the same as an in-universe character has been known to distract searches. I'm not sure if yours has, but the problem's bene previously reported.--Ragestorm (talk · contr) 18:25, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

New Model Viewer Site

Do you know who is the new host for the new WMV? I noticed your comment on the talkpage of the WoW Model Viewer.  IconSmall HighElf Male Mr.X8 Talk Contribs 15:53, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

I think it is this page, but I'm not sure. Inv misc orb 04Xavius, the Satyr Lord 17:27, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

Userbox images

When you create userboxes, make sure that the image height is 48 pixels or less. If you make it any higher there will be conflicts with other user boxes, as most of them have a height of 48 pixels. --User:Gourra/Sig2 14:11, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

Why? The userbox doesn't get any smaller. Inv misc orb 04Xavius, the Satyr Lord 14:17, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

Quick question...

I've remarked these templates, "This user is a X/Y shipper". What exactly does it mean to be a "shipper"? Thx. :| DacianWarlord (talk) 21:55, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

Straight from the Wiktionary:
  1. One involved in shipping (fan fiction based on romantic relationships between characters).

Inv misc orb 04Xavius, the Satyr Lord 13:23, 12 July 2009 (UTC)


How do you download modelviewer my computer keeps not leting me download, please tell me how to get it to work. Its very important to me. (Hallowseve15 (talk))

It sounds like some security program is interfering. Check with such programs that the download is not forbidden or anything like that. Inv misc orb 04Xavius, the Satyr Lord 19:41, 13 July 2009 (UTC)


What realm do you play on? BobNamataki (talk) 18:54, November 18, 2009 (UTC)

The Sha'tar (Europe), a great little roleplaying realm. Inv misc orb 04Xavius, the Satyr Lord 20:38, November 18, 2009 (UTC)
I was there but lollers claimed everything and it was made a new player server. Plus I love the argent archives too much. Pity, I think we'd get along well, I roleplay just as seriously. BobNamataki (talk) 18:45, November 19, 2009 (UTC)
On second thought, I'm going there. On the Horde side. BobNamataki (talk) 16:24, December 1, 2009 (UTC)
A pity, I only have Alliance characters. Inv misc orb 04Xavius, the Satyr Lord 17:35, December 1, 2009 (UTC)
What about Garhuron? BobNamataki (talk) 21:54, December 1, 2009 (UTC)
That was on another server, and I think I deleted him. No, I prefer to play Athaniar (just reached 35 now, yaay). Inv misc orb 04Xavius, the Satyr Lord 22:01, December 1, 2009 (UTC)


I went ahead and added {{fanfic}} to the list to make things easier for you, and anyone else of course. =) User:Coobra/Sig4 22:55, November 19, 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, I wasn't quite sure which one to use. Inv misc orb 04Xavius, the Satyr Lord 17:21, November 20, 2009 (UTC)

Model art

I see the massive amounts of WoW Model Viewer images you've uploaded at User:Xavius/ModelArt. This is a violation against the WoWWiki image policy, as it states that WoWWiki is not an image hosting service. I will start deleting them soon, unless you have any objections against it. --User:Gourra/Sig2 00:50, February 21, 2010 (UTC)

Have we changed policy lately? Because, as evidenced above, I was allowed to keep my fan-art on this site. And that is how I want it: here, so others can see it. I am not the only one with fan art on WoWWiki, so if you won't allow me to have my pictures, ban every single piece of fan art and fan fiction on the site. Otherwise, I will consider this an attack aimed solely at me. Inv misc orb 04Xavius, the Satyr Lord 10:44, February 21, 2010 (UTC)
Ragestorm said that it wasn't in violation of the DNP policy, but it is a violation against the WoWWiki image policy. I don't see anyone else that is aimed here, so yes, it is an "attack" aimed solely at you. --User:Gourra/Sig2 11:46, February 21, 2010 (UTC)
I see nothing in that policy that I am in violation of. My images are not on this Wiki simply because I want to store them here. They are here so that others can see them. It is not an intentional attempt to steal your bandwidth, I only want to share my work. What makes me different from others who host their work here on WoWWiki? Inv misc orb 04Xavius, the Satyr Lord 14:40, February 21, 2010 (UTC)
Like Ragestorm said earlier, "uploading images so others can look at them is the job of a hosting service", and WoWWiki is not a hosting service. Images like this serve no other purpose other than you can show off your skills in using the WoW Model Viewer, or in your words: "share my work". Correct me if I'm wrong. --User:Gourra/Sig2 15:08, February 21, 2010 (UTC)
Isn't the purpose of fan-art usually to show off your skills? What makes me different? Also, the policy does say that one should "Always upload images for display to the wiki. That way we don't steal bandwidth from others, and it makes the image links more reliable." Inv misc orb 04Xavius, the Satyr Lord 17:05, February 21, 2010 (UTC)

Xavius, this enforcement is not so much a new rule, as it is an old rule that is just being enforced upon this particular occurrence now. You are allowed to keep your fan art on WoWWiki, but in this case there is a lot of it, much of it is not Warcraft related (it just uses Warcraft graphics), and it not particularly high-quality. I, sort of echoing Fandyllic in a way that disturbs me, feel that fan art is one of the sketchier areas of policy, in that the decision to keep any of it on articles is largely arbitrary. However, you are not using any of them on main articles, and if you were, they would likely be taken down. I have no idea how to find out if you are hotlinking these works anywhere to show them off even more. That part of policy you quoted does not refer to some kind of "ALWAYS UPLOAD IMAGES!Smiley" mentality, rather, is refers to an "always upload images that will be used, and do not hotlink images from other websites" mentality.--User:Sandwichman2448/Sig 20:56, February 21, 2010 (UTC)

In my opinion, I AM using the images. But if it is just the non-Warcraft images you don't want, I can remove those. I don't want to, but the Warcraft-related ones are the most important, really. Does anyone of you know where I could upload the images if I can't show them here, by the way? Inv misc orb 04Xavius, the Satyr Lord 07:00, February 22, 2010 (UTC)
Why do you think they are important? Also, it's fairly easy to find somewhere to host them. See google. --User:Gourra/Sig2 07:36, February 22, 2010 (UTC)
Most relevant, really, seeing as how they are actually related to the subject of the Wiki. Inv misc orb 04Xavius, the Satyr Lord 08:49, February 22, 2010 (UTC)
Please don't downsize the page before the discussion is over, it is extremely rude. I will remove the images myself after I find a better place to display them. Also, I still think I should be allowed to host them here, but you're the boss. Inv misc orb 04Xavius, the Satyr Lord 11:11, February 23, 2010 (UTC)
EDIT: Wait, you deleted the images themselves? Thanks a lot, I don't even know where I have the original files for many of them... Inv misc orb 04Xavius, the Satyr Lord 11:25, February 23, 2010 (UTC)
You said it was okay to remove them, so I did. I'll restore the images so you can save them, and then you tell me when it's fine to remove them. Though it's strange that you deleted them on your hard drive - did you think that WoWWiki would act as a backup for your images? --User:Gourra/Sig2 12:02, February 23, 2010 (UTC)
First, I said that I could remove them. Never said that I was going to let you do it. Second, I have two computers, one of which has been rebooted several times, leading to the data being spread across multiple places. This way I can make sure that I have everything on one hard drive. Inv misc orb 04Xavius, the Satyr Lord 17:32, February 23, 2010 (UTC)
By "one hard drive" you mean WoWWiki? Because that's what it seems like, that you store the images on WoWWiki in case something would go wrong with your computers.
Again, tell me what images you want me to restore, and then tell me when you're done downloading them. --07:08, February 24, 2010 (UTC)
Ehm, no, I don't. I mean my laptop. Your statement just confirms that you have some deep-seated grudge against me for some reason. To my knowledge, I have never done anything to deserve this kind of treatment. All I ever wanted was to share my work with the community, but you obviously think I'm some kind of parasite. Fine, I know when I'm not wanted. Please restore all images you deleted, and I will tell you when I'm done. After that, please leave me alone. Inv misc orb 04Xavius, the Satyr Lord 08:35, February 24, 2010 (UTC)
Your statement was unclear, as it seemed like as if you did have it on one computer, while you said that some of them had been deleted from your hard drive. I'm sorry for the misunderstanding. I don't think that you are a parasite, but if you think that's what I thought of you, then I'm sorry for that too. I didn't mean to insult you but that you would understand that WoWWiki is not meant to be a storage place for your WMV work, even if it's not Warcraft related. I'll start working on restoring the images. --User:Gourra/Sig2 09:18, February 24, 2010 (UTC)
Remove it now if you want to. Inv misc orb 04Xavius, the Satyr Lord 17:16, February 25, 2010 (UTC)

Your opinion is desired

Hey, just wanted to solicit your opinion on whether WoWWiki should leave Wikia. Thanks! --PcjGamepedia wiki manager (TDrop me a line!C58,964 contributions and counting) 12:41, October 6, 2010 (UTC)

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