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History    Please feel free to ask me any questions on my Wikia Community Central User talk page or my Wikia Templates User talk page!

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Please leave any Wowpedia related comments on my user talk page at Don't expect a quick response there, because I literally almost never read it lately.

Comments to Fandyllic

Response to Would you like to be a patroller?

Hello Fandyllic,

Thank you for the kind offer, i am going to decline as even though there's certain benefits (Such as the rollback rights you mentioned) i don't feel they make much of a difference compared to a normal user.


TessaVarzi (talk) 01:30, August 17, 2016 (UTC)

Hi there Fandyllic,
Was wondering what you meant by "I was annoyed at patrollng your patrol edits"? Are you referring to the ones i put on your talk page to let you know about them?
TessaVarzi (talk) 05:02, January 5, 2017 (UTC)
See User_talk:TessaVarzi#Unpatrolled_edits_in_RecentChanges. --Gengar orange 22x22Beware the sneaky smile! Fandyllic (talk · contr) 5 Jan 2017 11:14 AM Pacific

Other TessaVarzi notes

Anon created a DnP article: [1]

TessaVarzi (talk) 18:02, January 1, 2017 (UTC)TessaVarzi

Another DnP article: [2]

TessaVarzi (talk) 21:04, January 1, 2017 (UTC)TessaVarzi

Anon created DnP article: Alina Collection TessaVarzi (talk) 03:27, January 4, 2017 (UTC)TessaVarzi

Anon posted a server article with DnP info: [3]

Also added that anon plus one other to the violations page (For January).

TessaVarzi (talk) 00:41, January 6, 2017 (UTC)TessaVarzi

Anon created Onyxia Brood Whelpling article. Looks to be either a battle pet or a companion from WoW's 5th anniversary.

TessaVarzi (talk) 00:50, January 7, 2017 (UTC)TessaVarzi

Another anon created article: Skybackpirate TessaVarzi (talk) 21:14, January 7, 2017 (UTC)TessaVarzi

Anon created article: [4]

TessaVarzi (talk) 21:25, January 16, 2017 (UTC)TessaVarzi

What do you think about this change an anon made? Link: [5]

I had reverted it because Naisha had died in Warcraft 3 so logically there was no guarantee of her ever coming back.

Nor would it make a lot of sense to bring back a character who was already dead not to mention she wasn't that important of a character to begin with (At least in my opinion).

TessaVarzi (talk) 01:17, January 22, 2017 (UTC)TessaVarzi

Anon created a BS spam article: [6] TessaVarzi (talk) 13:36, January 30, 2017 (UTC)TessaVarzi

Anon created an article with spam content (The article name itself has to do with the first warcraft game) Link: WarCraft_I_Orcs_vs_humans. Do you want to delete or edit the article to have all the info concerning the first warcraft game? TessaVarzi (talk) 19:27, June 4, 2017 (UTC)

Deleted. --Gengar orange 22x22 Fandyllic (talk · contr) 5 Jun 2017 10:09 AM Pacific

Protector_of_the_People <<<< Not sure what to say TessaVarzi (talk) 01:37, June 5, 2017 (UTC)

Deleted. --Gengar orange 22x22 Fandyllic (talk · contr) 5 Jun 2017 10:09 AM Pacific
DnP/attack article against WoW player: Grimreefer
TessaVarzi (talk) 03:19, June 11, 2017 (UTC)TessaVarzi

Thought i'd ask you for your thoughts on the Guild:Immortality (Skullcrusher US) article since that guild has moved over to the server Korgath. Couple anons (One months ago) have removed three of the guilds members on that articles list for whatever reason. Prior to the move it was obviously vandalism now i'm not so sure. Here's the current anon edit: [7] TessaVarzi (talk) 06:59, July 14, 2017 (UTC)TessaVarzi

Anon Special:Contributions/ created guild article Guild:Hand_of_Pain_(Echo_Isles_US) with the only content being "This guild is for goobers". TessaVarzi (talk) 06:49, August 15, 2017 (UTC)TessaVarzi

Yotnar created by Anon Special:Contributions/2602:306:33E6:CF0:2442:2677:7192:AF0C. Article name belongs to an elite npc by the same name. TessaVarzi (talk) 09:24, August 29, 2017 (UTC)TessaVarzi

Registered user User_talk:Lilyseven posted a message on their talk page regarding selling a WoW account (Now removed and not allowed as per Blizzard's TOS). Link here: [8] TessaVarzi (talk) 07:38, September 14, 2017 (UTC)TessaVarzi

User mentioned above created forum thread Thread:381970 TessaVarzi (talk) 07:43, September 14, 2017 (UTC)TessaVarzi

Server:Gallywix US <<< Thoughts on anon created server article? TessaVarzi (talk) 03:37, September 24, 2017 (UTC)TessaVarzi

What are your thoughts on Special:Contributions/'s edit to Demigod here [9]? TessaVarzi (talk) 06:47, October 31, 2017 (UTC)TessaVarzi

Anon created DnP article Neniabriillantes TessaVarzi (talk) 00:53, January 9, 2018 (UTC)TessaVarzi

Non WoW related article Tank Hunter TessaVarzi (talk) 17:10, May 25, 2018 (UTC)TessaVarzi

Guild:Voodoo_Skulls_(Gurubashi_US) Only content is "pradaa was here" TessaVarzi (talk) 21:15, June 7, 2018 (UTC)TessaVarzi

Uh... Confrérie_des_trois_pd TessaVarzi (talk) 00:12, June 13, 2018 (UTC)TessaVarzi

Forum Spam (noted by TessaVarzi)

User_talk:Bestpro111 has created a spam thread found here: Board Thread:World of Warcraft/@comment-Bestpro111-20170325104635

TessaVarzi (talk) 13:31, March 25, 2017 (UTC)

Jr Mime (VSTF) removed it. --Gengar orange 22x22 Fandyllic (talk · contr) 27 Mar 2017 12:07 PM Pacific
Spam Thread:379229 created by User_talk:Azirgordon24 TessaVarzi (talk) 03:37, April 7, 2017 (UTC)
Removed. --Gengar orange 22x22 Fandyllic (talk · contr) 6 Apr 2017 8:17 PM Pacific

Anon Special:Contributions/ created gold farming thread with a link to what is likely a spam website. Link to thread Thread:381741 TessaVarzi (talk) 09:21, August 29, 2017 (UTC)TessaVarzi

Lilyseven is back (Now known as User:Lilynancy) and has created another one of his threads this time about power leveling for money. Link: Thread:382001 TessaVarzi (talk) 01:03, September 19, 2017 (UTC)TessaVarzi

More Vandalism

2017 messages                 

Anon Special:Contributions/ vandalized part of the Warlock Quests article with explicit content (Now reverted by another anon)
TessaVarzi (talk) 08:37, January 14, 2017 (UTC)

Anon vandalized Draenei article twice with minor content: [10] TessaVarzi (talk) 22:05, February 8, 2017 (UTC)

Blocked for 2 weeks. --Gengar orange 22x22 Fandyllic (talk · contr) 8 Feb 2017 2:35 PM Pacific

Anon has been vandalizing Draenei article with false info: [11]

TessaVarzi (talk) 04:04, February 11, 2017 (UTC)TessaVarzi

Special:Contributions/ removed all content from Server:Shadow Council US article with explicit edit summaries/explicit content in article (That i managed to revert to a previous user's edit): [12]

TessaVarzi (talk) 04:30, February 12, 2017 (UTC)TessaVarzi

User Special:Contributions/Totoline posted Monk_Tactics article found below with a bunch of korean spam along with editing an uploaded video from 2014 of some sort (Looks to be korean). Video link: [13]

Article link: [14]

TessaVarzi (talk) 11:40, February 13, 2017 (UTC)TessaVarzi

Ridiculous article from Special:Contributions/ Link: [15]

Vote yes/no on guild housing article created by Special:Contributions/ Link: [16]

Anon Special:Contributions/ vandalized Scepter of Sargeras with Harambe spam (Now removed and replaced with content that was missing). Link to vandalism: [17]

TessaVarzi (talk) 05:48, March 7, 2017 (UTC)TessaVarzi

Anon Special:Contributions/ created raid article Skorpyron with the only content being "you are my meme". TessaVarzi (talk) 06:38, March 9, 2017 (UTC)TessaVarzi

Anon's Special:Contributions/ and Special:Contributions/ created one spam article each: WOLOAFDBJKDDB_FDHAJO_SFHGAKO and WOLOAFDBJKDDB_FDHAJO_SFHGAKO

TessaVarzi (talk) 18:59, March 11, 2017 (UTC)TessaVarzi just cleared the page. blocked for a week. --Gengar orange 22x22 Fandyllic (talk · contr) 13 Mar 2017 9:44 AM Pacific
Anon Special:Contributions/ vandalized Language article. Link to vandalism (Now reverted): [18]
TessaVarzi (talk) 20:49, March 14, 2017 (UTC)TessaVarzi
Anon Special:Contributions/ created an irrelevant real life bio article: Italian_Cooking_trainer_Dallas
TessaVarzi (talk) 02:39, March 28, 2017 (UTC)TessaVarzi
Might want to look into this [19].
^^ The above was added a long while back with no citation/proof of any sort either before or after the current edit. I've googled this a bit and have found nothing to back up either edit.
Also there's a spam article here: Daniel23
TessaVarzi (talk) 21:05, March 29, 2017 (UTC)TessaVarzi

Anon Special:Contributions/ vandalized Nature's Swiftness (shaman ability) here: [20] TessaVarzi (talk) 02:54, March 31, 2017 (UTC)TessaVarzi

Anon Special:Contributions/ vandalized Drunk here [21] (Vandalism reverted)

TessaVarzi (talk) 08:35, April 2, 2017 (UTC)TessaVarzi

Anon Special:Contributions/ vandalized Starting area here [22]

TessaVarzi (talk) 01:54, April 9, 2017 (UTC)TessaVarzi

Registered user Special:Contributions/Armablivion created a spam article SPHINX_3D TessaVarzi (talk) 01:01, April 24, 2017 (UTC)TessaVarzi

Anon Special:Contributions/ vandalized User_talk:BlackXom by removing all content from page (Rolled back to previous edit). Vandal edit here: [23] TessaVarzi (talk) 00:50, April 28, 2017 (UTC)TessaVarzi

Anon Special:Contributions/ vandalized Useful_macros_for_hunters with explicit profanity (Now reverted) [24] TessaVarzi (talk) 06:23, April 29, 2017 (UTC)TessaVarzi

Anon Special:Contributions/ removed all content (With the exception of adding inappropriate content) from Archimonde. Link: [25] TessaVarzi (talk) 03:57, May 2, 2017 (UTC)TessaVarzi

Special:Contributions/ vandalized Server:Ragnaros US with vulgar/racist content. Link: [26] [27] TessaVarzi (talk) 16:09, May 5, 2017 (UTC)TessaVarzi

User Special:Contributions/AMINEMAJIK has added two links as well as an image of the Utorrent logo to WoWWiki. Link 1: Download_Torrent Link 2: [28]

P.S. I removed the Utorrent link from the article that was created for security purposes.

TessaVarzi (talk) 21:59, May 7, 2017 (UTC)TessaVarzi

Disregard the Utorrent post above. VSTF took care of it. TessaVarzi (talk) 23:55, May 7, 2017 (UTC)TessaVarzi

Anon Special:Contributions/ went and messed with the US realm list by datacenter article (Vandalism now reverted). Link: [29] TessaVarzi (talk) 05:51, June 6, 2017 (UTC)TessaVarzi

Anon Special:Contributions/ vandalized Cloth Wearer (Vandalism reverted). Link to vandalism here: [30] TessaVarzi (talk) 22:49, June 6, 2017 (UTC)TessaVarzi

Anon Special:Contributions/ has re-added an edit of his i reverted about a wow player he claims in his edit is a child molester/convicted felon/trade chat troll. I get the article is community maintained but i think that edit is pushing the boundary of what's acceptable. What do you think? Link to edit: [31] TessaVarzi (talk) 08:42, June 24, 2017 (UTC)

Not acceptable. Rolled back. --Gengar orange 22x22 Fandyllic (talk · contr) 26 Jun 2017 10:07 AM Pacific
Anon Special:Contributions/ vandalized Totally Smashed article (Vandalism reverted). Link: [32] TessaVarzi (talk) 23:43, June 28, 2017 (UTC)
Anon blocked for 1 year. --Gengar orange 22x22 Fandyllic (talk · contr) 28 Jun 2017 3:51 PM Pacific
Anon Special:Contributions/ created (spam?) article Locations_of_fixed_devices_in_Gilneas_City TessaVarzi (talk) 02:19, July 1, 2017 (UTC)
Anon Special:Contributions/ added two links to a spam blogspot on Talk:Draenei/Analysis and his talk page User_talk: Links: [33] [34] TessaVarzi (talk) 22:15, July 5, 2017 (UTC)
Anon Special:Contributions/ and Anon Special:Contributions/ vandalized UI escape sequences and Varimathras respectively along with the first Anon creating a DnP article Antidka. Links: [35] [36] TessaVarzi (talk) 00:56, July 16, 2017 (UTC)

Anon Special:Contributions/2602:306:33E1:5360:957B:D1B2:2292:D783 vandalized a few character articles (I.E Arthas Menethil etc). Two registered users reverted the vandalism themselves. TessaVarzi (talk) 08:26, July 24, 2017 (UTC)

Raylan13 blocked the vandal. --Gengar orange 22x22 Fandyllic (talk · contr) 24 Jul 2017 10:24 AM Pacific

Image/Text spam article Lotharww8siidisisisis TessaVarzi (talk) 16:18, July 24, 2017 (UTC)

Raylan13 deleted the page. --Gengar orange 22x22 Fandyllic (talk · contr) 24 Jul 2017 10:24 AM Pacific
Not sure what Special:Contributions/2601:8C1:8200:74:189B:A975:F128:2B3E is up to on this article [37] TessaVarzi (talk) 03:26, August 17, 2017 (UTC)
Special:Contributions/Camilopezo reverted his changes to Forsaken but was claiming that it should be updated plus his comment "The Forsaken are not monsters". That's true (To an extent) but looking at his edit/s i'm reasonably sure it was favoritism and not NPOV. Link: [38]. What do you think Fandyllic? TessaVarzi (talk) 23:05, August 22, 2017 (UTC)
Special:Contributions/2600:1005:B059:49F7:96F2:D127:1A4C:36A1 added what looks to be religious vandalism to Spirit Walker. Link: [39] TessaVarzi (talk) 05:25, August 23, 2017 (UTC)
^^ Update to above: Anon was vandalizing Spirit Walker. Reverted the article to a previous version by IcarusATB. Also reverted vandalism from Special:Contributions/ Link to vandalism: [40] TessaVarzi (talk) 06:57, August 23, 2017 (UTC)
Looks like Raylan13 did the blocking. The Forsaken edits were not NPOV. Any updates need good sources, if they sound NPOV. Otherwise they should prob get reverted. --Gengar orange 22x22 Fandyllic (talk · contr) 25 Aug 2017 10:18 AM Pacific
Anon Special:Contributions/ vandalized Road to Damnation. Link to vandalism: [41] TessaVarzi (talk) 01:17, September 5, 2017 (UTC)TessaVarzi
Anon Special:Contributions/ vandalized article with non NPOV content bashing someone named Yooj which has been reverted to an old version by Mikk (Apparently he was a famous player on the server Bloodhoof Europe). Link:[42] TessaVarzi (talk) 02:15, September 11, 2017 (UTC)TessaVarzi
Anon Special:Contributions/ vandalized Exile of the High Elves. Link: [43] TessaVarzi (talk) 20:31, September 12, 2017 (UTC)TessaVarzi

User talk:Lilyseven created another forum thread about account selling (Clearly disregarding my message on his talk page). Link: Thread:381978 TessaVarzi (talk) 06:44, September 15, 2017 (UTC)TessaVarzi

Special:Contributions/ vandalized Lore here [44] TessaVarzi (talk) 21:18, September 26, 2017 (UTC)TessaVarzi

Anon Special:Contributions/ vandalized WoWWiki:Stub_policy here [45] TessaVarzi (talk) 03:10, October 9, 2017 (UTC)TessaVarzi

Special:Contributions/ vandalized Area damage caps here [46] TessaVarzi (talk) 09:28, October 14, 2017 (UTC)TessaVarzi

Anon Special:Contributions/ created Amvet article TessaVarzi (talk) 06:04, October 20, 2017 (UTC)TessaVarzi

Special:Contributions/Xero36 vandalized User:Guywhoplayssupport profile page and Quest:Pyrorachnophobia with a Hentai image per each page as well as uploading said image here [47] (Image on aforementioned profile page previously MIA and now removed due to Special:Contributions/ who thought it funny). TessaVarzi (talk) 01:53, October 23, 2017 (UTC)TessaVarzi

Anons keep changing Kael'thas Sunstrider's alignment to chaotic evil after i revert it back to chaotic neutral. Am i missing something on whether or not this guy's alignment changed at any point in time? See link here [48] TessaVarzi (talk) 18:51, October 26, 2017 (UTC)

Likely Kael'thas' alignment was specified likely only in the Manual of Monsters, so that's what it should be unless someone finds a different source. They can't just change it because they feel it's changed. --Gengar orange 22x22 Fandyllic (talk · contr) 26 Oct 2017 12:20 PM Pacific
Special:Contributions/ vandalized User:Callea8664 (Now reverted) here [49]
This is probably not vandalism, but someone trying to migrate their account to Wowpedia. --Gengar orange 22x22 Fandyllic (talk · contr) 3 Nov 2017 7:48 AM Pacific
Special:Contributions/ vandalized Thrall (Also reverted) here [50] TessaVarzi (talk) 02:50, November 3, 2017 (UTC)TessaVarzi
Special:Contributions/ vandalized Anduin Wrynn here [51]
Ah ok, given the weird numbers/letters on that users page i figured it was vandalism but no worries. TessaVarzi (talk) 21:14, November 3, 2017 (UTC)TessaVarzi

These three Special:Contributions/\Special:Contributions/\Special:Contributions/ were caught vandalizing Sylvanas Windrunner here [52] here [53] and here [54] (Reverted to an old version). This one Special:Contributions/2601:19C:4602:7D30:EC7A:9365:D507:3DEB vandalized Koltira Deathweaver here [55] (Also reverted) TessaVarzi (talk) 10:03, November 6, 2017 (UTC)TessaVarzi

Special:Contributions/ created non WoW article LoL_free_skin TessaVarzi (talk) 10:48, November 22, 2017 (UTC)TessaVarzi

Special:Contributions/ removed all content (Now reverted) from Herbalism. Link: [56] TessaVarzi (talk) 05:38, December 10, 2017 (UTC)TessaVarzi

Special:Contributions/ created guild article Guild:The_Fighten_Irish_(Stormscale_US) with the only content being "gay guild".

Same anon removed all content (Now reverted) from Guild:Dragonheart_(Stormscale_US). Link: [57] 

TessaVarzi (talk) 08:47, December 16, 2017 (UTC)TessaVarzi

Special:Contributions/ created spam article Research_chemicals TessaVarzi (talk) 21:52, December 22, 2017 (UTC)TessaVarzi

Special:Contributions/ created spam article Lingom TessaVarzi (talk) 05:05, December 26, 2017 (UTC)TessaVarzi

Special:Contributions/ vandalized Netherwing drake mounts here [58] (Corrected the vandalism myself).

Special:Contributions/ created MACRO signal with the only text being some weird message (A greeting perhaps?).

TessaVarzi (talk) 08:11, January 29, 2018 (UTC)TessaVarzi

World Of Warcraft The Roleplaying Game created by Special:Contributions/ with the only text being "oh god what is this i am not good at computer" TessaVarzi (talk) 11:32, February 1, 2018 (UTC)TessaVarzi

User_talk:Ramsonroni has been vandalizing Technical support with info/links to a tech scam website.

See [59]

I left a warning on his talk page but if he chooses not to listen that's his choice.

TessaVarzi (talk) 20:23, February 5, 2018 (UTC)TessaVarzi

Special:Contributions/ has been repeatedly removing part of Server:Blackrock US regarding the Opening of Ahn'Qiraj despite me reverting his edits.

I've left a message on his talk page.

Link: [60]

TessaVarzi (talk) 22:01, February 10, 2018 (UTC)TessaVarzi

Special:Contributions/ created spam article That is 76 vi6gra TessaVarzi (talk) 23:36, February 19, 2018 (UTC)TessaVarzi

Special:Contributions/ created Queen Azshara (raid tactics) with the only content being "a thicc thotty". TessaVarzi (talk) 03:45, February 24, 2018 (UTC)TessaVarzi

Spam article Создание_сайтов_любой_сложности_Копии_Любых_Лендингов TessaVarzi (talk) 05:51, March 15, 2018 (UTC)TessaVarzi

Special:Contributions/AyAytunes99 created @garena. Looks to be DnP. TessaVarzi (talk) 16:48, March 18, 2018 (UTC)TessaVarzi

Thread:383158 = Spam TessaVarzi (talk) 23:42, March 28, 2018 (UTC)TessaVarzi

Dragons_of_Nightmare_(Emerald_Nightmare) <<< Thoughts? TessaVarzi (talk) 02:24, April 13, 2018 (UTC)TessaVarzi

Заказать_продвижение_сайта = Spam article TessaVarzi (talk) 20:18, April 13, 2018 (UTC)TessaVarzi

DnP Next_time TessaVarzi (talk) 04:52, April 20, 2018 (UTC)TessaVarzi

Special:Contributions/ is repeatedly vandalizing Lich King.

Link: [61]

TessaVarzi (talk) 23:27, May 20, 2018 (UTC)TessaVarzi

MMO Game Page Footer

Just FYI, I put a request on the submissions page to lobby that 'WildStar Online' get put back on the list. I said: "reason for proposing: there is room on list without another line wrap, and its still integrated in the actual game footer logo. of the active community in-game, there are still a lot of cross game WoW/WS players". Wikia Gaming, Gaming Footers #MMOs.

I see now that I probably should have actually stopped to read the submission rules first, before I added that. Regardless, just wanted to let you know esp. since the joined WoW WildStar logo for the game footer. I still play and there's a good deal of free WoW <--> WildStar migration for users back and forth or people who play both. Celess22 (talk) 02:01, January 18, 2017 (UTC)

Sig test

I am testing out my signature. {{SUBST:User:sawpog46/Sig|23:26,1/20/2017}}

Problem Template

Glad I got your message. Thank you. The reason I did it that because the NPCbox template looked quite different and a bit awkward. I don't know why.--Spenpiano (talk) 19:18, March 14, 2017 (UTC)

Just a heads up

The article you deleted called Glyph of the Dire Stable documents an actual item in WoW Legion.

I just got done editing it but it's fine i'm not upset or anything. If you want you can restore the article with the following text i had written up. Also as a side note, two of the items in the below text (Sallow Parchment and Roseate Pigment did not have an available icon here on WoWWiki. Is it possible that could be fixed somehow?

It's your call.





|name=Glyph of the Dire Stable






|effect=Use: Permanently teaches you this glyph.

Your Dire Beast often calls forth dire versions of your stabled pets.

Requires Level 25

Sell Price: 1



<span style="font-weight:normal;">This item is created with </span>[[Inscription]]<span style="font-weight:normal;">; discovered through </span>{{loot|uncommon|Technique: Glyph of the Dire Stable}}.

{{itembox|Materials required:

|q1=1|Light Parchment

|q1=8|Sallow Parchment

|q1=40|Roseate Pigment}}

==== Patch changes ====

<onlyinclude>{{legion-inline}} {{Patch








TessaVarzi (talk) 23:34, April 6, 2017 (UTC)

I'll recreate it, but don't think that if I deleted an article you can't recreate it. I just don't want profanity to appear in the history if it isn't necessary. --Gengar orange 22x22 Fandyllic (talk · contr) 6 Apr 2017 4:05 PM Pacific
I noticed an option to do so when i had it open in the editor but didn't want to mess with it without consulting you first.
TessaVarzi (talk) 00:08, April 7, 2017 (UTC)TessaVarzi

It was no problem, as an admin myself I know how annoying it is to deal with vandals.SolZen321 (talk) 02:18, April 7, 2017 (UTC)

Updating Icons

Hi! I’ve been trying to update/add some of the icons on a few pages where the icons either didn’t show up or were wrong, and I realized that for a few pages, like Draenor Safari, the correct icons that display in the game, which should be inv_pet_achievement_collectallwild_draenor for this example, cannot be found on Wowhead (It uses the Pandaria version of the icon, which is also given for Broken Isles Safari), and Google got no results either. I tried taking a screenshot of the icon in the in-game achievement list, but it is lower quality and looks slightly different from the other icon images. Is there a better way to get these icons? -RBoy (talk) 20:28, April 8, 2017 (UTC)

Sorry, I hadn't realized they were the same as the icons for Outland and Pandaria. I'm not sure why they had seemed different to me earlier... Thank you for checking it, though. RBoy (talk) 18:26, April 10, 2017 (UTC)

Concerning User Necrophotic

Not sure what this guy is up to but he reverted a ton of stuff (Which was clearly not in good faith) in Warlock (Lore) found here: [62]

TessaVarzi (talk) 01:52, April 9, 2017 (UTC)

This dude is constantly re-writing the lore pages he works on. The changes can seem dramatic, but they are usually in good faith and this recent one seems okay to me, so I'm going to restore it. ---Gengar orange 22x22 Fandyllic (talk · contr) 10 Apr 2017 9:41 AM Pacific


Howdy ;) Do you mind if I enable Discussions? I'll handle the set-up and can keep on top of monitoring them. Raylan13@fandom (talk) 15:59, April 13, 2017 (UTC)

Thanks :) Up and running - we'll see how it goes. Raylan13@fandom (talk) 19:40, April 13, 2017 (UTC)

Pet Battle Dungeons

This is what I found on Pet Battle Dungeons. Let me know if there's anything I should add. I plan on adding specific pages for the quests and dungeon I referenced in that page soon. Also, should I link the pages for Serr'ah and Lio the Lioness to new pages with (Dalaran) after them, since these are NPCs in Dalaran rather than the garrison menagerie, or should I just add a new section to the existing pages about their additional location? -RBoy (talk) 19:08, April 20, 2017 (UTC)

Too crazy?

I'm sorry, I'm just a bit confused by your message. If I did something wrong, please let me know. 

I'll try not to burn myself out, though. I love WoW, and I hope to contribute to other people enjoying it as well. Thank you for your note. I was actually looking at your user page last night, admiring all the work you've done for this wiki. I'd like to express my gratitude for your work.

This is how the world ends-- not with a bang, but with an edit. (talk) 19:18, April 21, 2017 (UTC)

Please do

I would greatly appreciate you fixing things that I do in order to make them more appropriate to the general form of the wiki. I do hope that my contributions will be a net positive, but I will openly admit that I am not entirely adept at utilizing the wiki editor and knowing which infobox goes where, and so on and so on. Thank you for respecting a newbie, and if you have any links related to tutorials in utilizing this editor and how I can know what to do and where and when, please feel free to drop me a line. I would greatly appreciate it. Thank you for your time.

Respectfully your servant,

This is how the world ends-- not with a bang, but with an edit. (talk) 21:26, April 22, 2017 (UTC)

FYI (multi-account vandal)

Just giving a heads-up - rather than guess if any of the edits were useful from all these accounts, I went ahead and reverted back to before any of them edited. Raylan13@fandom (talk) 16:47, April 24, 2017 (UTC)

Cool. Thx. --Gengar orange 22x22 Fandyllic (talk · contr) 24 Apr 2017 10:18 AM Pacific
Krontho is from a different IP in a different country Tongueout. Given the pages they edited, it sure suggests the same person, but who knows. Since we've got both IPs blocked, there's not much more to do. Raylan13@fandom (talk) 19:29, April 24, 2017 (UTC)

maiev shadowsong

Can you keep an eye on maiev shadowsong? I just reverted vandalism on it.

outlinedlizard 23:32, April 29, 2017

It doesn't look like you reverted any vandalism. StarmanW did. --Gengar orange 22x22 Fandyllic (talk · contr) 1 May 2017 10:04 AM Pacific

Grand Army of the Light

Hi, I just want to ask a question. Do you know much about the Grand Army of the Light. Point is, I don't think Turalyon and Alleria Windrunner were the ones who built it. Was it the Naaru?--Spenpiano (talk) 19:35, May 1, 2017 (UTC)


I found a vandalism.

AYVIEYEN (wall) 14:31, May 2, 2017 (UTC)
Deleted. --Gengar orange 22x22 Fandyllic (talk · contr) 2 May 2017 6:41 AM Pacific

Performance Issue with page

Hey Fandyllic,

There's an issue with one of the pages on this wiki - WoWWiki:WoW_Icons/Icon_List/Images. Simply put the technical strain of displaying all those images is often causing timeout errors on our servers.

As such, I need to request we split the page up or otherwise significantly pare it down. I'm not clear what you guys use it for, but I'm happy to help if needed in whatever solution works best for the wiki. Please let me know ASAP. If I don't hear back in the next few days, I will be forced to just delete the page (please note I am also contacting Celess22 about this topic if you wish to coordinate). --DaNASCAT@fandom (help forum | blog) 15:40, May 16, 2017 (UTC)

Yeah, we can split it up... it's mostly just for archival purposes. --Gengar orange 22x22 Fandyllic (talk · contr) 16 May 2017 8:01 AM Pacific
Heres why it broke User_talk:DaNASCAT#Images page. This is something you guys probably really want to look into and fix. Ill see about splitting them but the Wikia image rendering looks broken and all of the delay load maybe be broken. Celess22 (talk) 16:57, May 16, 2017 (UTC)

Current Resolution

Ok it won't thrash the server anymore. Please see the comments on User_talk:DaNASCAT#Images page details. This is basically an issue with how the image loading changed. To remove the Wikia regression on the Wikia side you need to check to see if the image is even going to be displayed. There must be other pages or Wikia page wrapper content where this would hurt a good deal, especially for those who aren't logged in and are getting all the ads. Celess22 (talk) 18:45, May 16, 2017 (UTC)

Separate Pages

Hi. There is a difference between an energy and a substance so I'm just wondering if I should create a separate page for fel "the substance".--Necrophotic (talk) 18:12, May 31, 2017 (UTC)

No. Since just Fel and Fel energy redirects to fel magic, we don't need a whole bunch of pages. Either way, I'd rather see other lore pages filled in than having a couple giant lore pages. --Gengar orange 22x22 Fandyllic (talk · contr) 31 May 2017 1:38 PM Pacific

WC1 hard campaign

Hello i edited warcraft 1 hard campaign also i do that for warcraft 2, i can upload for it also, what information should i say for it?

Szwagier/u8t3io3p U8t3io3p (talk) 19:32, July 12, 2017 (UTC)

See User talk:U8t3io3p#WC1_hard_campaign. --Gengar orange 22x22 Fandyllic (talk · contr) 12 Jul 2017 4:08 PM Pacific


what now?

U8t3io3p (talk) 23:52, July 13, 2017 (UTC)

Continued at User talk:U8t3io3p#WC1_hard_campaign. --Gengar orange 22x22 Fandyllic (talk · contr) 13 Jul 2017 5:05 PM Pacific

ok i did it U8t3io3p (talk) 23:45, July 15, 2017 (UTC)

Hello, so how to add video to warcraft 1? U8t3io3p (talk) 22:31, July 17, 2017 (UTC)

U8t3io3p (talk) 20:49, July 18, 2017 (UTC) i will do it also for warcraft 2 check after  w1/w2 for errors

ty for help

To Fandyllic

Hello. I'm new to the WoWWiki because i like Warcraft. I do WC3, not WoW. WoW is canon Warcraft.

Nice to meet you.

I'm here to like make a blog where it involves a dictionary i'm making up involving Blizzard game languages like Eredun and Khalani.

Would the wiki allow it or no.

J-Kun Desu

FeruEnzeru (talk) 02:15, August 5, 2017 (UTC)

My profile is funny

Older than old cheese; I'm 56,  my mother is 80...

Yarnpaper (talk) 06:30, August 6, 2017 (UTC)

Hello I would like to answer to your reply, by saying old is good.

P.S. I added asignature

Yarnpaper (talk) 06:34, August 6, 2017 (UTC)

Wiki Modules and Editor Tools

My talk Celess22 (talk) 22:47, August 8, 2017 (UTC)

Again :) Celess22 (talk) 23:25, August 8, 2017 (UTC)


Now is a bad time to decorate the page, as I'm am still working on it. I've left several notes in comments on the page and edit comments. I need the performance on save of the page to remain stable also so I can measure as I add sections. The extra templates or in-lines with Lua calls skew my results. Thanks. :) Celess22 (talk) 18:36, August 16, 2017 (UTC)

Oh, I didn't realize you were pulling from that page as well as putting info on it. You should probably put a warning notice at the top. --Gengar orange 22x22 Fandyllic (talk · contr) 16 Aug 2017 10:40 AM Pacific

Yes that's a good idea, ill put a marker at the top; I should have done that. Yeah I'm working down the page replacing MapID sections now that InstanceMapID is done. I figured since was already setup to do it may as well roll through the other one, and it's good to find bugs. I'm using the old lists to validate as I go down. I'm on the sections with non-traditional continents now, though I see you were able to add rows under the data driven part with no issues, which is the spirit of how it was supposed to work out. I'm blending in the same way unaccounted for ones into the list the same way. I thought if I did both pages InstanceMapID and MapID, together they might be a nice reference for everyone on the rest of the wiki for regular work. Sorry thanks. Celess22 (talk) 18:46, August 16, 2017 (UTC)

Is possible that I'm also grumpy this morning ;) Heres the note I put:

<-- In-process for this one working out final issues with CommonData.
Please don't change lists or I lose track.
Normally this won't be issue using data, but I have to go extra slow because I'm making adjustments to
the CommonData code as I go, and have to look up flags and other things for the first time for WoW data.
Thanks for showing all of the section markers and 3 the presumably instance (real game map) sections
I'll put a note on Fandy's page when done. -->

Celess22 (talk) 18:58, August 16, 2017 (UTC)

Hmmm. I don't see your notes about not changing anywhere on MapID, it's history, or talk page... Where exactly did you put your comments/notes about not changing lists? --Gengar orange 22x22 Fandyllic (talk · contr) 16 Aug 2017 11:12 AM Pacific

I put it as a comment at the top of the page, re: "You should probably put a warning notice at the top." "Yes that's a good idea, ill put a marker at the top; I should have done that." It was placed as illustrated above in html comment at the top. Sorry for any confusion. Celess22 (talk) 19:15, August 16, 2017 (UTC)

Maybe you are questioning my previous notes? Here below were are some of my previous notes if that's what you were asking about. I'm ok with any of it, and it was all fine and I liked the changes. If you wanted to continue I am ok with it. I just wanted to let you know the downside for me, from my perspective, at the time.

  • "(cur | prev) 09:47, August 16, 2017‎ Celess22 (Talk | contribs | block)‎ m . . (12,658 bytes) (+1)‎ . . (make a note wai til after :)) (undo)"
  • " <!--{ {Warlords-section}} maybe make a note an wait till after for lots of markup. Keep in mind is primarily an API page also.
    I'm going to remove this until after I've worked through the whole page. need consistent profiles as I add each block
  • "(cur | prev) 11:28, August 16, 2017‎ Celess22 (Talk | contribs | block)‎ m . . (12,907 bytes) (+1)‎ . . (if you coudl wait until im done) (undo)"

There was no note that explicitly stated anything about not changing the list, prior to the note I added at the top on your request. Celess22 (talk) 19:59, August 16, 2017 (UTC)

Re page protection

I do not have a problem with a regular user coming to make a change, who are unlikely to make systematic changes. I just needed your changes to pause for the day until I could finish. I am going to run out of time. Celess22 (talk) 20:04, August 16, 2017 (UTC)

The Result, now correctly finds all top level Instances (Maps)

I was like "where is this 'Argus'?", its not in any of the data.... That's it, that's what happened... The little furry sneaky stuffed animal with the grin was messing with me the whole time, chuckling with each change and comment. Oh 7.3.

IID Instance Name MapID Map Name Expansion
0 Eastern Kingdoms 14 Eastern Kingdoms 0Classic WoW Icon 16x16
1 Kalimdor 13 Kalimdor 0Classic WoW Icon 16x16
530 Outland 466 Outland 1Burning Crusade Bc icon
571 Northrend 485 Northrend 2WotLK Icon Wrath 30x18
870 Pandaria 862 Pandaria 4Pandaria Icon Mists 34x18
1116 Draenor 962 Draenor 5Warlords Icon Warlords 42x18
1220 Broken Isles 1007 Broken Isles 6Legion Icon Legion 18x18
1669 Argus 1184 Argus 6Legion Icon Legion 18x18
 ? Argus  ? Argus? 6Legion Icon Legion 18x18
Yeah, I guess you haven't noticed the tons of Patch 7.3 PTR images I've been uploading (only about half of what I've captured so far!).
I guess the Blizz API doesn't expose PTR data? Good to see latest expansion stuff show up, though. --Gengar orange 22x22 Fandyllic (talk · contr) 16 Aug 2017 1:59 PM Pacific

No my nose has been down. I need one of those old green tinted accountants visors to complete the picture, all kinds of reflections and glares are starting to bother me anyway. No, it just depends on which set I draw from. I'm on GR, which even if had the other data, the tables that get presented are the current GR version ones. I could go PTR, but I think it would add to the confusion since I'm validating against all of the GR data out on the various sites and wikis.

I think it will be a nice proof to drop the 7.3 over the known working 7.2.5 set, with edit note marking it as 7.3. Ironically I could be automating the image uploads instead lol, but one will end up driving the other in the future maybe. Probably better to have in wiki data with real file names in the long term to give the poor souls toiling away with images more help in a wiki fashion they can control themselves. Celess22 (talk) 22:11, August 16, 2017 (UTC)

Map files:

MapID Map Name Map Texture Features Expansion
941 Frostfire Ridge FrostfireRidge.blp 5Warlords Icon Warlords 42x18
945 Tanaan Jungle TanaanJungle.blp 5Warlords Icon Warlords 42x18
946 Talador Talador.blp 5Warlords Icon Warlords 42x18
947 Shadowmoon Valley ShadowmoonValleyDR.blp 5Warlords Icon Warlords 42x18
948 Spires of Arak SpiresOfArak.blp 5Warlords Icon Warlords 42x18
949 Gorgrond Gorgrond.blp 5Warlords Icon Warlords 42x18
950 Nagrand NagrandDraenor.blp 5Warlords Icon Warlords 42x18
971 Lunarfall garrisonsmvalliance.blp 5Warlords Icon Warlords 42x18
973 Lunarfall garrisonsmvalliance_tier1.blp Terrain 5Warlords Icon Warlords 42x18
974 Lunarfall garrisonsmvalliance_tier3.blp Terrain 5Warlords Icon Warlords 42x18
975 Lunarfall garrisonsmvalliance_tier4.blp Terrain 5Warlords Icon Warlords 42x18
976 Frostwall garrisonffhorde.blp 5Warlords Icon Warlords 42x18
978 Ashran Ashran.blp 5Warlords Icon Warlords 42x18
980 Frostwall garrisonffhorde_tier1.blp Terrain 5Warlords Icon Warlords 42x18
981 Frostwall garrisonffhorde_tier3.blp Terrain 5Warlords Icon Warlords 42x18
982 Frostwall garrisonffhorde_tier4.blp Terrain 5Warlords Icon Warlords 42x18
990 Frostwall garrisonffhorde_tier2.blp Terrain 5Warlords Icon Warlords 42x18
991 Lunarfall garrisonsmvalliance_tier2.blp Terrain 5Warlords Icon Warlords 42x18
1009 Stormshield AshranAllianceFactionHub.blp Shared City 5Warlords Icon Warlords 42x18
1011 Warspear AshranHordeFactionHub.blp Capitol City 5Warlords Icon Warlords 42x18

So easy, info right at your finger tips, will make you cry.

I'll let that stew for a second. Now keep in mind you don't have to render tables only with the data. You can use it for anything. You can make CSVs in < pre> to help people with uploading wiki images or resources, or use it for other wiki things or facilities, like any #if or #switch, or even with other existing Lua tables.
So for example if someone kept the names similar or a superset of the real name, all of the Maps for all of the WoW Maps would match already. Basically what was going on before was that someone was having to manually match what was effectively a misnamed map that was straight out of the game data itself, but just with a changed name. Even if someone made up their own CommonData data, fi that's what happens to happen with Witcher, you can see how this starts to all line up. Now if you extrapolate across other things, like POI, POI type images, POI locations, NPC locations, NPCs, Items, etc.. the new options available for adding things and features it becomes pretty pervasive, what could be done or maintained with fewer people. And this also possibly anchors down Lua toward your earlier concern. Celess22 (talk) 22:36, August 16, 2017 (UTC)

Question Regarding Use Of Images/Videos etc From Private Servers

Hi Fandyllic,

I noticed your reply to User:FeruEnzeru about the use of images, videos etc here on WoWWiki and was hoping for a bit of clarification in regards to the following about Private Servers...

"Blizzard is even more generous in that they generally give permission as long as the use is not to promote things that violate their terms of use like bots, exploits, guides that charge money, phishing ads, or private servers."

In regards to the word "Promote things" is this referring to images, video etc that name and or try to get people to join a Private Server? Or is that in general I.E No images, videos etc from Private Servers are allowed on WoWWiki?

Just trying to understand what our stance is here on WoWWiki.

TessaVarzi (talk) 02:59, August 20, 2017 (UTC)

Unless there is some official Blizzard statement giving a private server permission to operate (which there has never been, as far as I know), you can't promote it on WoWWiki. If the mention is part of a topic appropriate news story, it is okay, but that needs to be evaluated case-by-case. --Gengar orange 22x22 Fandyllic (talk · contr) 20 Aug 2017 9:41 AM Pacific

Hi again Fandyllic

I'd made my blog post today. Feel free to view it. It has a dictionary of words, meanings and translations from English to any blizzard language(s). Cheers. FeruEnzeru (talk) 21:32, August 20, 2017 (UTC)

Hello in a language different then Eredun

Mok'ra, Fandyllic. :)

I am knowing what "Hi" and "Hello" means in Orcish, not Eredun.

It is "Mu" and "Mok'ra", the two words translated as hi and hello.

I'll be reading some blizzard language stuff and updating my blog maybe after i move to a new home and after i get a new internet access at the new home.

How's that sound. FeruEnzeru (talk) 03:17, August 23, 2017 (UTC)

Sounds fine. Like I said, there is no hurry. --Gengar orange 22x22 Fandyllic (talk · contr) 25 Aug 2017 10:20 AM Pacific

Volunteer Curators

Hi Fandyllic,

I'm contacting you as you are the most recently active admin.

I just posted a blog post about Volunteer Curators here on WoWWiki and I'm wondering if it'd be ok with you and the rest of the admin team if I posted a community message about it (like a site-wide message, but just for this wiki). We're hoping to attract World of Warcraft news fanatics to help round out our World of Warcraft coverage on .

Thanks! -- Sannse @fandom (help forum | blog) 20:46, August 29, 2017 (UTC)

As per my note on your CC message wall, I will do the wiki-wide notification. Give me a few min. --Gengar orange 22x22 Fandyllic (talk · contr) 29 Aug 2017 2:36 PM Pacific

Dictionary Blog Post ON HOLD

Hi, Mr. Fan. I'd just kept the B-L Dictionary stuff ON HOLD yesterday. I want to let you and the others know about this.

I am going to get a Starcraft Wikia profile sooner or later.

I really need to add some stuff like phrases, one word to twenty (Or thirty-ish) letter words for all Blizzard game languages and red coloring for some words including translations.

If so. I'll be joining another wiki than WoWWiki very importantly.

I'll be joining the Starcraft wiki now and make a Khalani language blog on there.

I'll be sure about that this eventually. FeruEnzeru (talk) 22:32, September 3, 2017 (UTC)

There is no hurry and there is no restriction on how many wikis you can work on... we're all a big family. --Gengar orange 22x22 Fandyllic (talk · contr) 6 Sep 2017 10:43 AM Pacific


It looks like the AQ maps were never added to the coord/map templates (maybe?). Could you throw them in there when you get a chance? Raylan13@fandom (talk) 17:06, September 7, 2017 (UTC)

Will do. --Gengar orange 22x22 Fandyllic (talk · contr) 11 Sep 2017 10:44 AM Pacific
Thanks! Raylan13@fandom (talk) 19:48, September 11, 2017 (UTC)

Message to Fandy

Hey, boss. How you're doing? FeruEnzeru (talk) 04:09, September 26, 2017 (UTC)

I forgot my signature for it. My bad. FeruEnzeru (talk) 04:09, September 26, 2017 (UTC)

Getting behind on my Recent changes patrolling, but otherwise fine. I noticed your language blog got gigantic. Impressive. --Gengar orange 22x22 Fandyllic (talk · contr) 26 Sep 2017 9:39 AM Pacific

Thank you, boss. :) FeruEnzeru (talk) 00:30, September 27, 2017 (UTC)


Which wiki pages as examples? I see pages where looks like someone swapped {{Tabber for <tabber>. The former is actual curated Tabber we have, the other later one is the fairly quirky native Wikia extension. Like on Celess22 (talk) 23:59, October 18, 2017 (UTC)

Something changed with Wikia tabber extension that causes a conflict now when both are used, or maybe just <tabber is broken. If you fix the pages to just use the less quirky one the {{Tabber like I just changed Warlock to use then it works fine just like the Tabber template example. I could redo this in Lua and would be pretty tight. The instructions are in Tabber. In the Warlock case I just changed the Races section and then the whole page worked. I wrapped any section that has markup that normally cant be passed well to a template in <option section, as explain in tabber template.

Later ill see about creating more isolation or fixing this better. Regular tabber is very old and has a lot of JQuery conflicts with other things. Celess22 (talk) 00:35, October 19, 2017 (UTC)

I redo pages using your Warlock example. There is growing evidence that the upgraded port of the tabber tag is bad. --Gengar orange 22x22 Fandyllic (talk · contr) 18 Oct 2017 4:45 PM Pacific
You mean the Template version is bad or was the tabber extension updated and is bad? Celess22 (talk) 00:46, October 19, 2017 (UTC)

Also I changed some of the start up code and renamed a bunch of things that might help. Its probably code they changed that started just rewriting anything that looked like tabber rather than using their specific triggers, making duplicates. The template tabber has remained the same since 2013? O.o Celess22 (talk) 01:16, October 19, 2017 (UTC)

All fixed. Just some duplicate Tabber coding from Common.js that was interfering. Raylan13@fandom (talk) 15:57, October 19, 2017 (UTC)
Woot! Glad it was easy. --Gengar orange 22x22 Fandyllic (talk · contr) 19 Oct 2017 9:53 AM Pacific
That code, circa 2013, allowed half the custom site code to work at the time, due to unresolvable JQuery dependency conflicts with that version of the tabber Wikia extension and other Wikia code. The module was not duplicate code, but it was part of inane amount gymnastics to get the popup TOC and others to work smoothly, after some other Wikia change back in the day. I seem to remember a similar casting of asparagus and trying to duck out of the way when TOC went down, but I had nothing really to do with that either. Unless the extension was changed and updated the gymnastics were necessary. I am pretty sure I did try to file some bug reports or do some posts on the dev site, or at least littered someone's talk page with a wall of text about it. I can't say how long it was true without scouring the extension dev and release history, that the Wikia tabber extension stayed in that bad state, maybe up until a few days ago, or a few years ago. It's also still possible that other parts of other things may still have same issues.
Raylan's change needed to be fixed, which did A few minutes ago. JS crashing startup, which probably looked like tabber code was disabled and all was well, but most things were down. I did a revert first to make sure nothing got fat-fingered. Celess22 (talk) 20:03, October 19, 2017 (UTC)
It's odd that the change to js "fixed" the issue with the tabs. Almost nothing has changed, excepting the reversion, in the meantime - so was this an issue of cache after the internal rollout of the extension change? What fixed it? Raylan13@fandom (talk) 17:26, October 20, 2017 (UTC)


Haha! No problem. I'll have to find a facepalming Sylvanas or something for next year's avatar. Raylan13@fandom (talk) 18:02, October 19, 2017 (UTC)

Which fix? Celess22 (talk) 20:04, October 19, 2017 (UTC)
Okay, I guess Raylan's fix wasn't a full fix... now all fixed? --Gengar orange 22x22 Fandyllic (talk · contr) 19 Oct 2017 1:13 PM Pacific
I'm just asking if he's referring to the conversation above. Celess22 (talk) 21:21, October 19, 2017 (UTC)

MaxXPCoin confusion

Trying to figure out what's wrong with the MaxXPCoin template. Any chance you can message me via BNet or jump on chat here? My BTag is on my talk page. AlexSUCF (talk · contr) 21:12, October 20, 2017 (UTC)

Interesting...I checked some Cata, MoP, and WoD quests on one of my 110 toons and they all seemed to give the standard amount of gold just without any XP (quests that normally rewarded both gold and XP just had the XP dropped). The very few quests I found that only rewarded XP for a toon at quest-level now reward a handful of silver (seems to be a 0.0403 conversion rate, but I'm only looking at a very small selection of quests). Legion quests at 110 don't have a conversion because they (almost) all scale with level. Was this template working properly during WoD? AlexSUCF (talk · contr) 22:01, October 20, 2017 (UTC)
OK, so I think it would be best to eliminate the template at this point. Most of the quests that had given gold at max level were removed in Cata, and the few remaining can be entered manually. I just checked some Duskwood quests (I was working on revamping Duskwood's quest pages when I made the template) and nothing there gives any gold beyond the standard reward. AlexSUCF (talk · contr) 22:19, October 20, 2017 (UTC)
Was about to say to just take it out of the infobox. Well, now that its been deprecated I guess I'll start looking around and seeing what I can help with. Any suggestions on where to start? Also, how do you get your signature to show the time in PST? I want mine to show in EST. AlexSUCF (talk · contr) 23:22, October 20, 2017 (UTC)


OK, so I fixed my signature and will start looking into the pages to update. Looks like a long road ahead! Also, I'm in the process of changing my username to Cheesecaker (to better reflect my WoW account and to continue removing my (15+ year) old AIM username from current usage. *Hopefully* this is the last time I sign anything as AlexSUCF (talk · contr) 20 Oct 2017 8:13 PM EST 00:13, October 21, 2017 (UTC)

Well that's odd, why did it keep the UTC in there?
NVM, fixed it. Only need 3~ now!
AlexSUCF (talk · contr) 20 Oct 2017 8:18 PM EST
Cheesecaker... hah! you should start a sandbox wiki called the "Cheesecaker Factory". LOL. --Gengar orange 22x22 Fandyllic (talk · contr) 21 Oct 2017 8:15 AM Pacific

Legion Assaults

OK, so I did some work on the Legion Assaults page, but now I think it needs to be split into 5 pages (one overview page and four zone pages) because with just Azsuna's assault information it became very large. Also, now that it has been revamped, I think the Legion Assaults on the Broken Isles page can be scrapped as the other page already has all the same information. Thoughts?
Cheesecaker (talk · contr) 22 Oct 2017 12:05 AM EST

Also, do we want a page for each individual assault demon boss, or can we throw them all under a single page Legion commanders? I know they each have their own model and such, but that's a lot of very short, stub-like articles. Also also, I need to learn to not hit "Publish" before finishing my thought process on your talk page. Off to bed now...
Cheesecaker (talk · contr) 22 Oct 2017 12:11 AM EST

The Old WoW Doom Guard Models (I'm a bit shocked)

Take a look at this blog, please.

FeruEnzeru (talk) 15:07, October 24, 2017 (UTC)

Hey boss

I think the WoWHead Draenei (Non Krokul and Lost Ones) in Model Viewer are broken.,_sf)

That made me sad and upset btw. :(

I'm so unhappy for it.  FeruEnzeru (talk) 23:02, October 30, 2017 (UTC)

BlizzCon background

I realize the background might be a little "bright" for the general theme of the wiki Tongueout If you'd like to change it, feel free. My plan is to just keep it up through the event, then revert back to normal. Raylan13@fandom (talk) 16:59, November 1, 2017 (UTC)

On another note, should we change the header title back to normal? Raylan13@fandom (talk) 17:00, November 1, 2017 (UTC)
Slacker! (pot calling kettle black and all...) Raylan13@fandom (talk) 18:50, November 1, 2017 (UTC)

Portal page

Hey! I started to make portal page, but I can't put a link into Template:Portal/Games! I have already uploaded a image: BfAbutton.png Vilnisr T | C - 22:30, November 3, 2017 (UTC)

Button added. --Gengar orange 22x22 Fandyllic (talk · contr) 3 Nov 2017 2:44 PM Pacific

Press kit

Thanks! Raylan13@fandom (talk) 22:41, November 3, 2017 (UTC)

Poll protection

Need protection for:

Vilnisr T | C - 09:44, November 4, 2017 (UTC)


I know World of Warcraft: Classic won't be coming out for probably quite a while, but do you have any ideas how we might address the nightmare content? Raylan13@fandom (talk) 16:11, November 21, 2017 (UTC)


Hello there. I am reaching out in response to the note you left on my page regarding the gold guides. Just wanted to clairfy, when I went to the paid content link you left there was a section for gold guides. Am I able to leave a link to it there. Wanted to verify since you also said cannot post gold guides before I did anything else. 



Hey. I am one of the bureaucrats of the Polish WoW Wiki. We want to have Polish interwiki in your articles. Adding them manually would take too much time. Could we use (operated by the Polish helper Nanaki)? I talked to Raylan13 about it and he agreed.  Arek214 (T) 18:39, December 24, 2017 (UTC)

So we can use a bot?  Arek214 (T) 20:52, December 24, 2017 (UTC)

WoW Map

Just a heads up that the WoW Map update to the new version is starting. This should cause a temporary disruption in wow maps functionality on the wiki pages. Ill report when complete. Thanks :) --- Celess22 (talk) 16:45, January 18, 2018 (UTC)

I'm about half-way through. I'm having to use this account for a bit until my other one is fixed. I picked the existing (old) WoWWiki theme in preferences to make sure what was going on with the current state of the CSS, and it caused every page to have a 500 error for that account on WoWWiki. I've submitted a ticket but, it may be a while. I may need this account to get bumped temporarily so I can fix CSS and JS, and move pages properly. I had already updated the JS and Template:Map when this happened so things are in the middle. At the moment I can't edit the CSS. Thanks :) --- Celess22Bot (talk) 19:54, January 18, 2018 (UTC)

Ok I fixed it by hacking the form post for preferences. You have to 1) login, then watch it go 500 error. Then 2) go to which will cause the page to actually render. Then 3) change the "Layout" setting to monobook, or the screwed-up looking "&lt;new-look&gt;" option. The preferences form post itself now needs the skin override as well, to not be the error skin, or the post page generation that actually changes settings will fail internally and never be able to change settings. So 4) inspect the web page in the browser near the outside of an edit box or label, 5) scroll up to the outer "<form" tag. 6) edit and append the form "action" attribute to add "?useskin=monobook" to the end of the post url. 7) Go back the browser then hit the "Save" button on the form as normal. The page should now reload on its own without a 500 error. 8) Click on the WoWWiki logo to see if the next page (a page with no appended theme override) works. 9) all done. --- Celess22 (talk) 20:35, January 18, 2018 (UTC)

On my talk --- Celess22 (talk) 21:43, January 18, 2018 (UTC)

Response to "PC Security" message

"But you trust Microsoft?"

I'm not sure i understand the question. Are you referring to something i might not be aware of? Please elaborate.

I checked out the link you provided but unfortunately i won't be signing up for that as i don't do credit/debit type stuff online (Which is required for Silo).

Thank you for the suggestion though.

As an FYI, i edited your message on my talk page as the URL address needed a period not a dash.

It led me to the following...

This site can't be reached's server IP address could not be found.

Try running Windows Network Diagnostics


TessaVarzi (talk) 02:30, January 22, 2018 (UTC)TessaVarzi

Ah ok i see what you're getting at. Unfortunately that's the case with a lot of companies not just Blizzard.

And yeah i did some research into the free trial thing but it's not what i'd call good as a long term solution.

So that i'm gonna pass on but thanks again for the suggestion.

TessaVarzi (talk) 04:30, January 22, 2018 (UTC)TessaVarzi

Hey, so like half a year ago i asked if i could write some on Mam'toth and i never did. I was curious if i still could. 

i will of course show it to you first

Lorejunky96 (talk) 07:36, February 7, 2018 (UTC)

Thankyou sir. i do apologise about before. I ddnt know how any of this works and i wasnt trying to make up false lore and push it as legit. simply wanted to attempt to fill in some blanks that havent been ansered. ive never used wiki before and in honest, im really bad at internet stuff. but i apreciate you not deleting all i wrote a year ago and simply moving it. i will work hard to make sure my future large edits are appropriately placed. 

Lorejunky96 (talk) 02:16, February 10, 2018 (UTC)

Zones by level

Howdee Winky

With the zone level scaling changes, I went and sandboxed a revamp of the Zones by level page here. Just wanted to run it by you before I did such a massive change. Raylan13@fandom (talk) 17:13, February 14, 2018 (UTC)

I'm also combining all the info from the various "Zones" pages onto this one, that way there's only one page to update rather than three Tongueout. Raylan13@fandom (talk) 18:43, February 14, 2018 (UTC)
Sounds good - I'm going to polish it a little more and add more of the introductory text from the other pages as well. Probably pop it in there by the end of the week. Raylan13@fandom (talk) 19:04, February 14, 2018 (UTC)

Template types

Just an FYI - I'm going around and tweaking templates' types that aren't showing at all in mobile. Hopefully I can tweak them to come through Tongueout. If you run across something that appears "mis-typed", it was probably me finding a way to get it to work. Raylan13@fandom (talk) 22:48, February 21, 2018 (UTC)

I hope you're using your staff influence to get the devs to realize the template type system is flawed in that it doesn't clearly tell you when it will hide stuff on mobile when used. I even had to edit the help page awhile ago, because no one would even put the info there. It should at least have the info in red or bold on the screen where you select the template type! ---~~
Agree wholeheartedly Tongueout I've been able to "fix" a lot of them through guessing. The ones that need special attention can be found here, which I'm slowly working through. I've found that putting the tooltip coding outside the infobox code actually duplicates that info on mobile instead of hiding it (yee-ha); putting it inside the infobox code magically solves that, and the tooltips still work. For the other stuff, I included what's not working within the Broken template I popped onto those pages. Items are going to be a bugger (yanking tpl). Raylan13@fandom (talk) 01:52, February 23, 2018 (UTC)
Edit - oh, and I'm working on a slight reformat to zone/subzone pages. The Wandering Isle is sort of the base I'm working from with what's working thus far on mobile. Item pages with my previously revamped rewards sections have to be reworked, as well as all those beautiful tabs on class pages (should just be able to throw "titles" on the tabbed sections - dunno why names in the tabs don't show). Raylan13@fandom (talk) 01:56, February 23, 2018 (UTC)

Voting Poll

Hi, I thought maybe I would like to help providing new voting polls. Even though, I don't think I'm allowed, but I thought of the best ones:

  • Should Vrykul be playable?
  • Whose side should the Vrykul join?
  • What is the next allied race? (Vulpera, Forest trolls, Wildhammer Dwarves, Gilgoblins)

That's all I have. Hope it'll do.--Spenpiano (talk) 01:00, March 22, 2018 (UTC)

See User talk:Spenpiano#Making_Polls. --Gengar orange 22x22 Fandyllic (talk · contr) 22 Mar 2018 10:23 AM Pacific
I did it.--Spenpiano (talk) 18:39, March 22, 2018 (UTC)
So which of these new polls would you like to add next to the WoWwiki polls?--Spenpiano (talk) 21:33, March 23, 2018 (UTC)
See User_talk:Spenpiano#New_poll_thoughts. --Gengar orange 22x22 Fandyllic (talk · contr) 23 Mar 2018 2:26 PM Pacific


Yay! I got in as well - I had fired off an email to Blizz for the both of us, but didn't want to say anything just in case Winky Raylan13@fandom (talk) 15:16, April 9, 2018 (UTC)

I figured you were behind it. Thx! --Gengar orange 22x22 Fandyllic (talk · contr) 9 Apr 2018 11:35 AM Pacific
Anytime Smiley Raylan13@fandom (talk) 21:27, April 9, 2018 (UTC)

Allied Races

Hey Fandyllic, check out these awesome Allied Race ideas.

Hope you like them--Spenpiano (talk) 16:22, April 17, 2018 (UTC)

Picture deletion

Hi there, the subject of this picture File:Andrea Toyias-Women of Overwatch.jpg (Andrea Toyias) has requested the deletion of it, could you delete the page ? It is also unused. -- MyMindWontQuiet (talk) 19:08, April 30, 2018 (UTC)

BfA Beta Information

Hey Fandyllic! It's been awhile since I've edited this wiki and I seem to have forgotten the policy on beta. Are we allowed to include any information on the beta as long as we tag it with the appropriate templates? I would like to get started on including information if it's OK. Thanks! Zmario 20:44, May 2, 2018 (UTC)

Ah, thank you sir, much obliged. Zmario 21:13, May 2, 2018 (UTC)

PI broked stuff

Wanted to let you know I had to revert some infoboxes back to their pre-PI state in order to get them to at least show the correct information on mobile and work correctly with tooltips. I'll take some time and see if I can get them to work soon*.

Also, I noticed some of the battlepet page infoboxes were swapped out; the end result is that the item template no longer workd Tongueout. Looks like there was no differentiation between the item that summons the pet and the pet, which should (?) have been put on two separate pages. Tiny Crimson Whelpling is an example - I rolled it back to use the "correct" box, but should add a page for the battle pet itself. Raylan13@fandom (talk) 21:31, May 2, 2018 (UTC)

It'll probably be something we'd have to just catch when we run across it. Otherwise we'd have to go through 600 pages or so Tongueout I only happened on the whelpling by chance when mobile-testing templates. But RBoy should definitely be made aware. Raylan13@fandom (talk) 22:41, May 2, 2018 (UTC)
I left a message for him Winky Raylan13@fandom (talk) 22:47, May 2, 2018 (UTC)

Race Icons

Hey Fandyllic, whenever you get a chance we're going to need icons added for allied races. Zmario 01:28, May 4, 2018 (UTC)

Hmm, seems as though I could screenshot them directly from the character select screen. If you could incorporate them into the appropriate templates I would appreciate it. Also, please let me know if the images are passable or if they need to be renamed/recropped. I used paint to crop, so you know that's the cheapest way to edit :P. Zmario 01:47, May 4, 2018 (UTC)
Oh, I didn't think we could. Thanks, saved me a lot of time. Zmario 02:16, May 4, 2018 (UTC)

Non-English user

User: is adding pages and and categories that aren't in English. I've had to revert their edits several times already. Zmario 21:10, May 5, 2018 (UTC)

Tiragarde Sound Subzones

I think we've come a long way. Zmario 23:22, May 7, 2018 (UTC)

Random Page Copy

Hi, Fandyllic! I just happened upon the page Flamethrower (2), and was confused because it's exactly like the page Flamethrower. I checked on wowhead, and there are 2 different pages for this ability, with different ability numbers assigned to them, but that's the only difference between them, and I'm not sure if there really are 2 different identical ones in the game. So, should I copy what wowhead did when I say which battle pets use each ability copy, or should the second one be deleted and the battle pets assigned to each one be merged together? Thanks!

RBoy (talk) 18:23, June 13, 2018 (UTC)

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