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Someone made me an admin?

I'm not sure when it happened, but I think AlexanderYoshi made me an admin at some point. It may have happened around the time he obliquely agreed to add some more admins, see "another admin or two please" section of his discussion page.

Since I just found this out (and don't know what it means exactly), please don't bug me with requests right away.

--Fandyllic 2:09 PM PST 29 Dec 2005
That was me, actually; check your yahoo email account or toss me an email from another account that you prefer :)
-- Rustak 10:47, 31 Dec 2005 (EST)
"Quote: I'm not sure when it happened" - actually, it was 10:30, 29 Dec 2005, incase that helps (-: --  ℑilver§ℑide 12:03, 31 Dec 2005 (EST)
Congratulations. --Powerlord 23:33, 31 Dec 2005 (EST)
Congratulations. Remember to fear the Power! --Dracomage 09:01, 12 Jan 2006 (EST)

Because of this, you shouldn't be the head of any of the community teams, right? I mean, of course it's your decision, and I have no problem with it I guess, but you need to be able to give what time you have to administering the wiki at large. In any case, I guess you could just outline stuff and let your team members deal with the execution of it all. Just a thought. Schmidt 00:39, 14 Jan 2006 (EST)

Didn't think of that, but since I'm not a community team leader anyway, it doesn't matter. Hopefully, I won't be the only active admin most of the time, but we'll see. --Fandyllic 7:56 PM PST 14 Jan 2006
With great power comes great responsibility... So don't pull a GIR and decide to mess with the site and ultimately destroy it. Please. Geohevy 21:50, 20 Jun 2006
Hunh? --Mikk 20:56, 20 June 2006 (EDT)
If the reference is about Gir the robot on Invader Zim... I don't get it. ---Fandyllic 10:34 AM PDT 21 Jun 2006

Comments to Fandyllic

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The navigation sidebar

I just discovered how to change the navigation sidebar. In doing so, I was thinking about how we might change it. All I can think of to add is links to various policies. Now, this should be stuff that every user should know about, even newcomers (as I reckon it). Since many people may not look at the main page (I, for one), maybe important links should go there. So, what do you think belongs there? It could be external links, too, such as worldofwarcraft.com. What do you think? Schmidt 22:03, 28 April 2006 (EDT)

Sounds good. You could make a WoWWiki:Proposed new sidebar to put any ideas. I don't have any good ideas off hand. --Fandyllic 4:46 PM PDT 30 Apr 2006


Hey Fandyllic, thanks for adding adding me to the Cleaners list. =) --Tarog 13:48 PDT April 16, 2006

Flavor Lore

I created an article discussing the concept of Flavor Lore. Its to explain how sometimes things thought to be retcons or mistakes are sometimes intentionally written to add flavor to the universe, and show that not everyone believes the same things. I've included a few examples from the RPG, Manuals, and even WOW itself

I altered the Warcraft RPG category to explain that many supposed errors, are often intentionally written for flavor, and are often reflect the viewpoints of the inhabitants of azeroth at the time the book is said to take place. In many cases the book will tell competing beliefs, or theories made at the time, and usually not set anyone belief in stone.Baggins 13:29, 14 April 2006 (EDT)

Good article. --Fandyllic 2:48 PM PDT 14 Apr 2006


Sure sounds like fun.Baggins 17:20, 14 April 2006 (EDT)

Thanks for the recs- I've actually had my eye on them for the last week or so... I'm still trying to figure out how to organize such a team (you'll notice that we still haven't finished assignments), so things are still in flux... hopefully, things will be solved soon. Ragestorm 22:30, 14 April 2006 (EDT)


When you get a chance can you do something about this page, Homefries, its gotten almost 2 dozen edits in less than an hour between three user who are constantly changing it to what 'they' want. I guess WoWWiki:Three_revert_rule could end up being useful.--Ralthor 11:43, 15 April 2006 (EDT)

See Talk:Homefries and WoWWiki:Known vandals. --Fandyllic 10:51 AM PDT 16 Apr 2006

Policy Proposal

Well i did my best to follow you recomendation, Any informal reccomendations, or advice you can offer me on WoWWiki:NPOV or WoWWiki writing in general would be really helpfull.

Thanks Kaso 13:24, 24 April 2006 (EDT)
Good start, I'll edit it a bit and put it up for a vote. --Fandyllic 12:44 PM PDT 24 Apr 2006

Krunk Smash article

If you have a moment, would you be able to verify that the accounts who voted to keep Server:Doomhammer US/Krunk Smash have unique IPs? They all showed up to vote within 30 minutes, each a few minutes after the last, and only one has a previous contrib.--Aeleas 22:14, 24 April 2006 (EDT)

Sorry, I can't see the IP addresses of users. I'll talk to Rustak, maybe he can make this info available. --Fandyllic 9:48 AM PDT 25 Apr 2006

Community Teams

I am still interested in Community teams. I couldnt find which one I signed up for in the beginning but they all sound fun to me :D! Thanks! purrdeta 19:20, 25 April 2006 (EDT)

Deletion of Identical Articles

I'm planning on cleaning up the Patches Category, and I'm noticing that many of the pages, such as Patch 7-Nov-2004 (Release Notes) have identical, ordered counterparts: Patch 1.1 (Release Notes). What policy should I use with these pages? Speedydelete, Delete/Vote, or Terminate? (Sorry, didn't know who else to ask the question to) -- Pandaut 18:22, 1 May 2006 (EDT)

You may not have to delete them at all. I suggest you carefully check they are truly duplicates and if not move the different stuff to one of the articles (I would think "Patch #.#..." article would have precedence). After that, just make the one you like least a redirect to the one you like more (put #REDIRECT [[<good_article>]] at the top). Does that make sense? --Fandyllic 7:25 1 May 2006
I'll be sure to check carefully (some of them are merged patch notes as well) and I'll put the redirects up. Thanks! -- Pandaut 21:19, 1 May 2006 (EDT)

WoWWiki and WikiWoW

Hi there,

I'm the main admin of WikiWoW. I sent you an email a while back but it seems you are too busy to get back to me! I used to discuss with Alexander Yoshi about linking our Wiki's, but it seems he's no longer part of the project. WikiWoW is basically the same thing than WoWWiki, but in French and has only an encyclopedia approach.

Please note WikiWoW is not a rip-off of WoWWiki. I created WikiWoW with no knowledge of the existence of WoWWiki, which at the time was just a wiki about the WoW GUI librairies and stuff anyway.

Please let me know. By email at furism@gmail.com if possible.


--Furism 08:25, 12 May 2006 (EDT)

I forwarded your message above to Rustak. --Fandyllic 11:47 PM PDT 13 May 2006
Wow. I just looked at your wiki. Well, all I really saw was the main page, but it looks so nice! How do you do that? Schmidt 03:58, 14 May 2006 (EDT)
Hi Schmidt. How do you do what? :) If you mean the background thing, I edited the MediaWiki:Monobook.css page. I'd show you but at the moment we are upgrading to MediaWiki 1.6 so the website is closed (so we don't loose contributions, in case we need to load the database backup). --Furism 09:14, 16 May 2006 (EDT)
Is Monobook.css your default, and all your code is there? I've tried to add some general CSS code that would allow just saying, hypothetically, class=cool rather than style="{{coolcss}}", if you get my meaning. Do you know by any chance how to add code that will work for any choice of preferred CSS skin? Schmidt 11:01, 18 May 2006 (EDT)
Hi. Yes I use Monobook.css, however somewhat modified. I didn't change the actual file on the server too much, I used the /MediaWiki:Monobook.css page to add some code. Here :) --Furism 08:49, 23 May 2006 (EDT)

Do you remember this guy's name?

This gnome and his robot were the Blizzard patch technitions, but they are not named anymore on the website. Do you remember their names? link --- DarkTichondrias 00:20, 18 May 2006 (EDT)

Yeah, it was Tyrion and his Spybot. He's part of a quest in Stormwind Keep. --Fandyllic 10:46 AM PDT 18 May 2006

Sky functions clobbering Category:AddOns

Mate, it seems you're the one that categorized all the Sky functions as Category:Addons. It's doing ugly things to Category:AddOns tbh. Please fix =)

Mikk 22:11, 13 May 2006 (EDT)
I moved most of the Sky functions to Category:Cosmos AddOns. Not a great solution, but it gets them out of AddOns where they don't belong. --Fandyllic 11:35 PM PDT 13 May 2006
I dumped them in Category:Function Libraries/Sky documentation now. Scream if you hate the name; I'm not so sure I like it my self - it's pretty darn long. (Aye, I have your talk page on watch by now :-)) --Mikk 11:21, 26 May 2006 (EDT)
Uh, that name is pretty insanely long. Maybe you should make a more general category, like Category:Function Library Documentation and put stuff in there. We really don't need to have separate categories for all the function libraries like Sea also. All the organizing is appreciated regardless. --Fandyllic 10:48 AM PDT 26 May 2006
I've been mulling over this for a bit, and, to me, it seems that keeping the separate categories is more helpful. I myself believe in the ability to navigate via categories, and chucking all the library calls (there's lots of them!) in one huge category makes it somewhat meaningless. Also, these pages will never be members of more than one category so it doesn't hurt the bottom bar in any way.
I went ahead and did the same to other libraries, but used {{funclib}} to do it so it can be changed more easily. One would still need to walk over all the pages with an "&action=purge" because of caching but ... it's easier anyway. --Mikk 04:00, 29 May 2006 (EDT)

Delete/Talk template

Stop editing Delete/Talk, mate. It's not meant to have instructions. They're contained in Delete/Vote. Delete/Talk has to be as small as possible since it's substed directly into the talk page. --Mikk 23:44, 23 May 2006 (EDT)

See discussion for Template:Delete/Talk. Maybe subst: is working oddly for me, but it doesn't add the {{Delete/Vote}} stuff when I use it with {{Delete/Talk}}. That's why I changed stuff. Besides, {{Delete/Vote}} was getting out of control. Also, its best to keep policy out of the template, since we don't want to have to update the template each time policy changes.
If you can explain why subst: is not working with <includeonly> or what I might be doing wrong, then I'm fine with changing {{Delete/Talk}} back to the way it was. --Fandyllic 10:57 PM PDT 23 May 2006
Gotcha, moving the discussion to the talk page. Already wrote a response there. --Mikk 00:03, 24 May 2006 (EDT)

Category:Editing vs Category:Help

Seeing as how you're in the Cat Team, I thought I'd plop this in your lap.

I recently stumbled over Category:Editing and thought "Hey, that's a worthy cause" and started adding a few pages to it. Then I remembered about Category:Help (that one isn't advertized nearly enough, really...). But reading the category heading, it says that help pages live in "Help:".... well, the ones I wanted to add don't (WoWWiki:Templates, WoWWiki:Templates/Editing). Maybe I should just ignore that directive? Or maybe /Editing deserves to live some place else? Or maybe I should just stick to the API pages and keep my fat fingers out of everything else.... I dunno... Help? :-) --Mikk 07:03, 26 May 2006 (EDT)

Hmm, the more I think about it, the more I think that WoWWiki:Templates/Editing should be moved to Help:Editing/Templates. But I'll still wait and see what you have to say about it all, I think. If nothing else, you adminny type guys might want to take a look at it and see that I'm not trying to override some policy by what I'm saying; stuff in "Help:" tends to be taken as official gospel, after all. --Mikk 09:18, 26 May 2006 (EDT)
Yeah, I would move stuff to Category:Help. We should probably deprecate Category:Editing, or at least put it in the Help category. You don't get directly to the Help category from the Help link on the upper navigation sidebar, but there is a link to it at the top. Also, don't worry about if stuff is unofficial. If anything conflicts we can work it out as people complain about it. Most help pages are written with good intent. --Fandyllic 10:46 AM PDT 26 May 2006
Right. I moved Templates/Editing to Help:Template. The old one was quite horrible. Moved that to Template/Old and linked to it just in case there actually was useful information there. --Mikk 02:33, 29 May 2006 (EDT)
Just an update since I got you involved initially... Ralthor and I agreed that Help:Editing quickref was the right way to do this. Category:Editing is now empty and queued for deletion. --Mikk 12:52, 6 June 2006 (EDT)

Unprotecting function library documentation pages

The following pages are protected for... well.. no good reason? I was going to categorize them but no go..

--Mikk 06:13, 27 May 2006 (EDT)

They may have been protected in the days when we didn't have so many vigilant spam cleaners. Unprotected now. --Fandyllic 9:10 AM PDT 27 May 2006

Character Table

Fandyllic, thanks for the welcome to WoWwiki. With respect to your Character Table design (very nice by the way), is there a reason (browser related maybe?) why you used:

  • |align="center" width="60px"|'''Status'''   instead of,
  • !width="60px"|Status   which does the same thing.

Just wondering (and thanks again for the design) —MJBurrage 11:20, 27 May 2006 (EDT)

No particular reason. Some of the lamer wikis don't handle ! in tables well sometimes, so I guess I'm in the habit of not using it. --Fandyllic 10:37 PM PDT 27 May 2006

Created a Vote/Vote/Content too

I could care less about this one personally, but I hacked up a Vote/Vote/Content real quick based on Delete/Vote/Content "just because". Pull it in into Vote/Vote if you'd like to use it. (Oh, and the category tag in Vote/Vote should probably be in

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