You're a machine!

I mean that in the good way... ;-) Keep up the good work.

--Fandyllic 5:23 PM PST 2 November 2005
Thanks :)--Aeleas 16:00, 4 Nov 2005 (EST)

Category pages

Not looking too deeply into it, I saw that you've been working on moving the content from applicable category pages to normal articles. Good work. So far I like what you've done. I'm not sure that it'll work one way or another, but it would be best to use the move feature. I haven't been successful, but maybe that was just an isolated incident, so I'm not reaming you out or anything like that, of course.

Also, if the move feature doesn't work from category pages to normal articles, it would be good to note in the article (perhaps using the HTML comment-out feature, or maybe in normal visible text) that the text came from the category article, and that they should see the other article's history for information about that. Otherwise, they won't know who wrote any given thing. Also, the other article's discussion page will probably be relevant, or at least in the case of category:classes, it is, because that is full of discussion on how the classes are to be rated. For this, it might be good to have a template that is something like this:

: This article's content (some, up to a major portion) of this article was moved from [[another page]]. See that other page's [ history].

Maybe not all of that is necessary. In any case, I have been guilty myself of not doing that. Anyways, in the edit summary, you should say something like "moved info from whatever page" and likewise on the page you moved the info to. It would be important to actually link that page there because it would allow someone to know precisely what you were referring to. Again, I haven't done that specifically, but I feel like I've done pretty well at telling where stuff is from.

Long enough comment? Schmidt talk 02:57, 26 Oct 2005 (EDT)


Unfortunately the move function doesn't work across different namespaces, or, as far as I can figure out, when there is already a page at the target destination, even if it's blank.

The edit tag for both the category and the history page edits which involved the "big move" explain that it was moved from the category page, so I think anyone looking for past versions will know where to go. In the future I'll put the specific link to the previous page.

I'll go through and put links to the Category Talk pages in the article Talk pages as well; often they both contain information. --Aeleas 12:04, 26 Oct 2005 (EDT)

I do know that I've seen different user's pages without the user: namespace. In each of those cases, I successfully moved them to user:username. And in the case of hippogryph, that used to be under hippogryphs, with the former redirected to the latter, if memory serves. At least, maybe not in that circumstance but certainly in another. So I'm confident that you can move an article over a redirect that used to be to itself (when hippogryph redirects to hippogryphs, the latter – and the latter only – can be moved over the former — this is speculation). But I'm not so sure about the category pages, for good reason. After all, category pages are very special. Other than categories, however, what I've just described should be correct. Schmidt talk 23:57, 26 Oct 2005 (EDT)
I had misread the text on the Move page; it only said you can't include the Talk page across namespaces. Regarding the destination page, it must be blank with no edit history. --Aeleas 00:22, 27 Oct 2005 (EDT)


I love your rewording of WoWWiki:Policy. It's very succinct and not as wordy as I had written it. I usually find a way to make things less wordy, but it looks like I've been outdone! Good job. Schmidt 23:58, 9 Nov 2005 (EST)

Source Text vs. In-Game Book vs. History of Warcraft

Hail Aeleas!

Just a quick thought for discussion: I'm not quite sure what the term "source text" should be taken to mean as an Article Type for the In-Game Books/History of Warcraft. Do you feel strongly about keeping the term?

Also, myself and other contributors had already sort of established "in-game books" as a category of interest for WoWWiki; so the emphasis of the entries (articles) was on "this text is from an in-game book", with "this text is available as part of the complete Warcraft history" being a _secondary_ consideration... Again, do you feel strongly about switching this emphasis? I'd prefer the former approach, especially because the History (Lore) is already available in it's complete form on the official site, and so does not need to be duplicated here in that format (IMHO). Thanks for considering.

Best Regards, - Laisren 07:13, 30 Nov 2005 (EST)

I intended Source Text to be broad in meaning, covering any article that is copied verbatim from an official source. It would serve as a flag to notify the reader that the page isn't amenable to regular updating, and should not be taken as a regular user-editable article, which should be more concise. My thinking was that having such pages here would increase the use of internal links, make providing citations easier and more appealing, and alleviate the tendancy to copy large amounts of source text into regular articles.
I went with the History of Warcraft formatting to standardize them because that was the more comprehensive source, since there were several chapters which weren't identified as in-game books. I doesn't affect me strongly one way or the other; standardizing the formatting between all in-game books and History of Warcraft chapters, two distinct categories with a large overlap, would probably be a good idea.--Aeleas 19:26, 1 Dec 2005 (EST)


Hey, it's Luthien! I loved The Last Druid. Kinst 18:50, 30 Jan 2006 (EST)

Thanks!--Aeleas 19:19, 30 Jan 2006 (EST)

None of my characters are player characters. I don't own WoW. I just write stories. These stories usually alter an unchangeable aspect of the game, so they belong in fan fiction. --User:TopDread 12:00 PST 20 Feb 2006

Fall of the Lion and The Last Druid were awesome! Metzen himself would have been pleased! Ragestorm 17:28, 21 March 2006 (EST)

  • I bent over double in surprise when I realised that YOU were Luthien, five minutes ago.

No, honestly now; I'm a MASSIVE fan of the Last Druid campaign. I've mentioned it on my own page here, made a Blood elf named after Aelir and am writing a fanfic partially based on a retelling of your campaign's story. I suppose all I can say is a big thank you for making that masterpiece; glad to have found you.

Though Aelir is not official lore, per se, I always speculate to where Cloudcaller's Vigil took him. You ended it with his gpong all the way to Outland with Kael to watch over his people; and his fate thereafter, who knows? Quite moving. In the back of my mind I'd say he had something to do with the Scryers these days. Cool thought, rather. Perhaps he even taught Freywinn. --Timolas (talk) 12:39, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Fall of the Lion and The Last Druid

Hmm, you could give me some link to them, got problems looking for them. Would enjoy to read them :P. --Cartier 18:04, 21 March 2006 (EST)

They're Warcraft III campaigns; you can download them from here.
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