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Still the question is unanswered, is Arthas evil or good? {{unsigned|Mirdamor}}
 
Still the question is unanswered, is Arthas evil or good? {{unsigned|Mirdamor}}
 
:Arthas is dead. That's all that's important. --[[User:Joshmaul|Joshmaul]] ([[User talk:Joshmaul|talk]]) 22:38, July 6, 2010 (UTC)
 
:Arthas is dead. That's all that's important. --[[User:Joshmaul|Joshmaul]] ([[User talk:Joshmaul|talk]]) 22:38, July 6, 2010 (UTC)
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Re: 3.9.0

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IconSmall Hamuul Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (talk/contribz) 17:49, June 1, 2010 (UTC)
Yeah, was there a reason for that? --Joshmaul (talk) 23:02, June 1, 2010 (UTC)
Your comment on Talk:Patch 3.9.0#Delete this page
Sorry *grin*
IconSmall Hamuul Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (talk/contribz) 09:13, June 2, 2010 (UTC)

Bookfooter

I'll happily help with the switch from {{Books}} to {{Bookfooter}} if you'd like, just let me know when it's ready and any special instructions. IconSmall DrakeAzure Drazisil (t/c) 12:13, June 7, 2010 (UTC)

You can switch them, the new one is fully operational.
Replace {{Books}} by {{Bookfooter|<TYPE>}} when ever you find one, or check What Links to Template:Books for a full list.
Have fun :)
IconSmall Hamuul Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (talk/contribz) 22:31, June 7, 2010 (UTC)
What about World of Warcraft: The Magazine and Short stories? Pretty much done otherwise.IconSmall DrakeAzure Drazisil (t/c) 03:08, June 8, 2010 (UTC)
Well, I wouldn't call them comics. Don't know how many Blizz plan to continue to make at 4 a year (but for how long), I'd give them their own footer. User:Coobra/Sig4 04:29, June 8, 2010 (UTC)
Added a Magazine and Short story sections. Short story only covers Online Short Story, because other Short Story are covered in the RPG section.
IconSmall Hamuul Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (talk/contribz) 07:25, June 8, 2010 (UTC)

Your Sig

How'd you get your sig to appear like that? I put it in my sig, hit preview, then copy paste it into the message to add...is there a different way to do it? -- Inv staff 78 Astus the Graven One

Just create a page under your userspace, such as User:Drazisil/Sig and then place that in your sig as {{subst:User:Drazisil/Sig}}
Make sure the custom sig button is checked.IconSmall DrakeAzure Drazisil (t/c) 01:34, June 10, 2010 (UTC)

Image of Drakuru

Please note that both wowhead and thottbot are schizophrenic about the Image of Drakuru character IDs. Some IDs are listed as starting/ending more than one quest; some quests link to alternate IDs that don't link back to that character ID, etc. the 26500 ID seems to be the "most stable" of the set. --Eirik Ratcatcher (talk) 20:55, June 16, 2010 (UTC)

Well I used the position more than the quest, since we know the zones to go, I more or less guessed which ID is which image.
IconSmall Hamuul Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (talk/contribz) 20:57, June 16, 2010 (UTC)

DEHTA

What possessed you to change the category name? --Eirik Ratcatcher (talk) 18:28, June 18, 2010 (UTC)

Same reason that the Article moved from DETHA to its full real name. Same goes for BOOM.
IconSmall Hamuul Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (talk/contribz) 13:30, June 19, 2010 (UTC)

um

How is that video not a contribution to the lich king? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Lordkalec10587 (talkcontr).

Because we tend to remain serious on the content we add to articles.
IconSmall Hamuul Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (talk/contribz) 22:52, June 21, 2010 (UTC)
And thats a serious song on how tragic the lich kings life from arthas to death did you even watch the video? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Lordkalec10587 (talkcontr).
As "good" as it can be, we will keep out the fan videos.
You are of course free to ask an admin on the topic.
IconSmall Hamuul Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (talk/contribz) 22:59, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

Torch catching guide

Two things...

  1. you might be well on your way to joining the "stop the frivolous splitting of quest pages" camp. Or at least seeing one of the reasons for it.
  2. There are factions that disagree with sub-pages on a philosophical basis. You might find it more convenient to rename Quest:Torch Catching/Guide to Catching Torches to something more like Guide to Catching Midsummer Juggling Torches.

--Eirik Ratcatcher (talk) 18:20, June 28, 2010 (UTC)

I agree some quests, should not be split, but we argue for long on this and even admins are not all on the same side.
So, do as you like Ratchy! ;p
IconSmall Hamuul Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (talk/contribz) 18:23, June 28, 2010 (UTC)
Not sure I completely understand your comment about this Eirik Ratcatcher, but if you check the history, I think the original article name was closer to your suggestion (and I was a bit taken aback at the name change with no reason, especially as I was about to put in some links to it, lol). Was my original name for it a violation? Keyesc (talk) 18:26, June 28, 2010 (UTC)
In fact I believed that adding it in quest articles would be more easy to find. (no violation at all)
IconSmall Hamuul Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (talk/contribz) 18:31, June 28, 2010 (UTC)
I created the article using the section headings as described in the WoWwiki Manual of Style. You changed them in a subsequent edit with no reason listed. Please advise. Keyesc (talk) 18:43, June 28, 2010 (UTC)
Ah... The problem came that A'noob transcluded the entire article in Quest:Torch Catching (Alliance) and Quest:Torch Catching (Horde). The section headings do not match well with the headings on those pages. I think in this case that...
  1. The page should be reverted to the old name (or something like it)
  2. the quests should use {{main}} to point to said page, and include a one or two paragraph summary of the page.
If A'noob desires, the contents of the "section+main" can be in the current Quest:xxxx/subpage name, in a Template:something name, completely inline, or something else. But using summary/Main avoids the whole header ranking issue, as well as keeping the quest pages from gratuitously including a level of detail that verges on incompatable with the page. I can do this if you guys want, or one of you can take the lead. I'm easy. --Eirik Ratcatcher (talk) 21:54, June 28, 2010 (UTC)
I am not yet familiar with {{main}}. Also, is there a guideline for when to transclude vs. just providing a link? Keyesc (talk) 03:22, June 29, 2010 (UTC)
Wikipedia's Main template describes what I believe to be the standard for the convention of {{main}}. Guideline? Rule of thumb, really: "if what you're describing can stand as a page of its own, it probably should BE a page of its own." Size is a large factor in the choice. Beyond that it is a stylistic choice that we don't have formalized to my knowledge. My initial comment seems to have mutated into a larger discussion... --Eirik Ratcatcher (talk) 18:59, June 30, 2010 (UTC)
Let's revert to "Guide to Torch blabla". But I believe a simple link offers less visibility.
Your choice Keyesc.
IconSmall Hamuul Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (talk/contribz) 06:25, June 29, 2010 (UTC)
Why I suggested a summary to go with the link. --Eirik Ratcatcher (talk) 18:59, June 30, 2010 (UTC)

You told me you would be back :'(

But you aren't D: xDDD.

I've finished with the list I had, no more to copy-paste. However, there's still some locations missing, so feel free to add whichever you recall without me editing each 5 seconds :P.--Lon-ami (talk) 19:21, June 30, 2010 (UTC)

Cataclysm release date

What book 1 do you mean!? The release date for this book is 09/27/10, it will hit stores on 10/19/10. Thus August should be only game release. Edit: I forgot to sign, sorry. --N'Nanz (talk) 14:39, July 5, 2010 (UTC)

Your link gives the release/selling date for The Shattering, but not for Cataclysm.
You are assuming that the game will be released in August, because the book will deal about the Cataclysm, but it is not certain, Rise of the Lich King came moments after WotLK. Catalsym could be released months after The Shattering.
There is no "fact" in the date you give us (or did I miss a line in your link?)
IconSmall Hamuul Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (talk/contribz) 14:47, July 5, 2010 (UTC)
In the article it's written: "(...) An avid player of Blizzard’s MMORPG World of Warcraft, Golden has written several novels in that world (Arthas, Lord of the Clans, Rise of the Horde) with more in the works, including The Shattering: Prelude to Cataclysm, due out in August 2010 (...)"
"The Shattering" is the prelude to "World of Warcraft: Cataclysm", the game. There is no book called "Cataclysm". Now we know the release/selling dates for "The Shattering" thus what's happening in August but the release of the game??? xD
--N'Nanz (talk) 15:02, July 5, 2010 (UTC)
"Cataclysm" was refering to the Game. I'll try to explain myself better.
The dates you found are the dates of the book The Shattering, they have nothing do to with the game Cataclysm and should not be mentionned in the game's article
The Shattering is a prelude to the game Cataclysm, so the prelude is to be released in August, but that does not give us a release date for the game Cataclysm.
IconSmall Hamuul Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (talk/contribz) 15:09, July 5, 2010 (UTC)
No, you're wrong.
Release date of "The Shattering": 09/27/10; (look left column)
Selling date of "The Shattering": 10/19/10; (look left column)
Release of "World of Warcraft: Cataclysm": August 2010 --N'Nanz (talk) 19:23, July 5, 2010 (UTC)
I'm really sorry N'Nanz, I'm half-dumb and half-blind xD
Where do you read?
"Release of "World of Warcraft: Cataclysm": August 2010"
IconSmall Hamuul Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (talk/contribz) 05:25, July 6, 2010 (UTC)
"Cataclysm, due out in August 2010" --N'Nanz (talk) 10:25, July 6, 2010 (UTC)
The Shattering: Prelude to Cataclysm (ISBN-10: 1416550747), due out in August 2010
Proper association is everything. --Eirik Ratcatcher (talk) 20:00, July 6, 2010 (UTC)
Ah! Someone can still understand me! I'm not finished! xD
IconSmall Hamuul Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (talk/contribz) 05:22, July 7, 2010 (UTC)
The Shattering: Prelude to Cataclysm, due out in October 2010 --N'Nanz (talk) 10:24, July 7, 2010 (UTC)
The release date of the book varies with the source, but I am quasi sure that your link give a date for the book, not the game (which is IMO, very very very very very very very very very very unfinished for a launch August)
IconSmall Hamuul Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (talk/contribz) 12:14, July 7, 2010 (UTC)

What really happened?

Until the day when Arthas get hold of the sword Frostmourne, we know with great certainty that he was thoroughly good. There are fans who think he was already evil when he killed all who lived in Stratholme. If we look at it, it was only expeditious action, because the people there had the incurable plague, and would only increase the Scourge forces. I can understand the disdain for Arthas Uther must have had. Because that would mean they have to kill all who lived there, men, women and children!

I can understand why Uther was furious and left the site to its terrible fate. But Arthas did the right thing if you look at it in a strict ethical standpoint.

Arthas agenda. - There was no salvation for the people who lived there and if he had not killed them they just spread and kill more.

Uther's agenda. - We can not kill them because they are still innocent people. There must be a cure.

It has passed many years since this incident and there is still no cure for the plague. If Arthas declined to purge the city. Think of the disastrous ramifications it could have been.

Arthas takes the fleet and heads to Northrend to end the Dread Lord Mal'ganis Arthas get hold of the sword and (not entirely) kills Mal'ganis.

Arthas goes home and kills his father the king.

-Waitwutt? ...

Did Ner'zhul turn him mad so he become a evil puppet or did he slightly Mind Control him? Or did he slowly start to think that an immortal life as undead was a better way and said -pom tiddly pom the Lich King is a god I shall now follow him and kill everyone I love in his name? Similar to Anakin skywalker in episode 3 of Star Wars?

In the movie from the citadel when Tirion destroys Froustmourne he says -Father is it finnaly over?

That sounds to me he wanted to be released.

Some people say that he wanted champions of Azeroth to come to him so he could resurrect them as his undead champions, And that Arthas was the superior mind of the body. There is a possible that Arthas while he was merged with the Lich King wanted to rally the best champions against him so they could kill him and end the Lich Kings terror.

Still the question is unanswered, is Arthas evil or good? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Mirdamor (talkcontr).

Arthas is dead. That's all that's important. --Joshmaul (talk) 22:38, July 6, 2010 (UTC)
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