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The information about the zone being Independent, and ruled by the Van Cleef, and the Defias Brotherhood originates from the RPG. Do not change the infobox.Baggins 18:54, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

In Northrend, Old Characters Meet YOU!

[[1]]: "human characters that hark all the way back to low-level Westfall." What characters may that be? The Defias Brotherhood? VanCleef, even? Xavius, the Satyr Lord (talk) 11:12, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

VanCleef is revealed to be the real Lich King... Well not realy. See Captain Gryan Stoutmantle --mko (talk) 01:32, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
Yep, it's Gryan Stoutmantle and the People's Milita. See Westfall Brigade Encampment. -- Dark T Zeratul (talk) 03:34, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

Changing Zone Levels

Since Cataclysm is obviously not out yet, I think it best not to change zone levels in the Zonebox for existing zones until the game is live. Tentative level changes should go within the Cataclysm section of the article. Thoughts? Korval (talk) 15:33, July 28, 2010 (UTC)

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