Let me know if the layout for skills is any good or not. There isn't a whole lot of content there at the moment, but I'm trying to leave some of the information for the tactics section. Snorelax 20:40, 21 Nov 2004 (EST)

I like the layout. -- AlexanderYoshi 21:04, 21 Nov 2004 (EST)

Done for the evening, got some homework to do and class in the morning. I'll try to finish abilities up tomorrow. Snorelax 00:07, 22 Nov 2004 (EST)

Sorry to be a burden, but I'm really anal about these type of things. I notice that the rogue abilities table has borders while this one doesn't. Maybe we should discuss the merits of bordered vs. borderless and come up with a single table format. Any ideas? I personally think bordered are easier to line up especially when the "Stance" wraps to a second line. If you guys just want me to shut up, please say so. -- Campbelld 00:17, 25 Nov 2004 (EST)

It originally had borders, but HTML table borders look really sloppy in my opinion. Also, the stance wrapping is intentional as well. I'm looking into something to make it look cleaner, but really I think the standard HTML borders are a bad idea. Snorelax 05:12, 25 Nov 2004 (EST)

Lemmie know what you think of the new layout. Spent a little bit of time coloring rows and such, information should be more readable. Snorelax 05:49, 25 Nov 2004 (EST)

I like it, I found the blue title background a bit bright so have darkened it a bit, hope that's ok. Now the only problem is as Campbelld says, its inconsistent with the Rogue Abilities page, and also all the spell pages (Mage Spells and Warlock Spells so far I think). If we agree to go with the warrior layout someone should update the Templates to match it so we keep consistency, and then update the existing other pages. I understand Campbelld's concerns wrt borders, but I think if we add sufficient cellpadding it won't be a problem. Maybe also left-align the ability names? Oh, and yeah I like the stance wrapping, better that than one long line :) -- Goldark 06:16, 25 Nov 2004 (EST)

Once I finish updating all the warrior pages with the new layout, I'll go through and touch up the other classes as well. And yeah, the dark blue works much better.

Also, is cellpadding="3" large enough, or should I extend it more? Snorelax 06:29, 25 Nov 2004 (EST)

Is there a way to increase horizontal cellpadding only? If so I'd up it a bit more, but I dont think we want to add any more vertical spacing. Otherwise I reckon its best left as it is. -- Goldark 06:39, 25 Nov 2004 (EST)

Upped the spacing on the columns. If you think it needs to be wider, just fiddle with the width property till it's right. :P Snorelax 06:46, 25 Nov 2004 (EST)

Looks good, very colourful! -- Goldark 07:17, 25 Nov 2004 (EST)

Looks great to me. Nice job! -- Campbelld 10:41, 25 Nov 2004 (EST)

I've had an additional idea for all future tables. If we use a template for each row, then we can easily alter the formatting at a later date without having to edit each row individually. Then just use parameters for the data. So, entering one line in the table would just be like {{WarriorAbilityRow|Heroic Strike|1|All|Strikes a mob for blah blah}}. All formatting would be done in the template.

Any thoughts? -- Goldark 11:52, 25 Nov 2004 (EST) --

Goldark, I like that idea - it would really help us solidify a standard "look" across all abilities, including spells, etc.

May have to mock up a couple templates, because certain things have Duration, Mana Cost, or other factors included. Maybe a separate template for spells, and skills? Not sure how to handle that exactly. -- Jat850 11:56, 25 Nov 2004 (EST)


I've moved this discussion to Talk:Wiki_Template_Index as I probably shouldn't have started it here in the first place! -- Goldark 12:37, 25 Nov 2004 (EST)

Tidied up Abilites list, added hotkeyable Talent abilites for completeness. --Vrisch

Where's the tactics section at? I was thinking that we should add an Ability Combines Well With... subsection to each individual ability page in their Notes section for people to put down what abilities they find work will with each other and why.

It would help people who are researching talents for their builds. --Arandmoor 18:33, 5 Dec 2005 (EST)

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