Faction, not race
The Scourge is a faction of the Undead, not a race.--FeldmanSkitzoid 21:03, 7 Mar 2005 (EST)
Agreed. It should be removed from the race listing. Saimdusan 01:10, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
Member Races
I noticed that the races included in the Scourge are quite diverse but interestingly do not include Orcs. I seem to remember Arthas and Kel'thuzad slaughtering the remnants of the Blackrock clan in Lordaeron back in WC3. Does it not make sense that they would raise their remains and encorporate them into the Scourge as well? --(Julzwinfield 10:26, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
- It would make sense, but we've never seen Scourge agents who were clearly undead orcs. --Ragestorm (talk · contr) 03:21, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
- There was an undead half-orc and an orc ghoul in the scourge in Manual of Monsters, and I think there was discussion of some in the short stories in one of the other books as well. But they seem rare. In most cases you couldn't tell much difference if they are skeletal scourge, except an orc would probably appear bulkier... But on the other hand scourge skeletons and ghouls appear exaggerated anyways...Baggins 03:28, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
It talks about that the Forsaken have let undead orcs into the apothecary society, so that means there has to be some, somewhere, I think Mr.X8 02:10, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
Havent you guys played the Night elf campaign in TFT (The 2nd level) where in an optional quest you put to rest some orcs (Don't they look skeletal to you?)--The last Alterac 10:52, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
Well, canonically Liches are Warlocks of the Shadowmoon clan thus orcs --N'Nanz 12:33, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
- You raise a rather effective point. But I reiterate that the ones at the Broken Isles were not Scourge aligned. Judging by the appearance of Liches, their skeletal structure has been altered- but they are still technically undead orcs. --Ragestorm (talk · contr) 17:53, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
The first Liches that was created alongside the Lich King were Orcs, but not all Liches existing today are former Orcs. As you know, there are Human Liches aswell, such as Kel'Thuzad and Ras Frostwhisper.--Odolwa 20:04, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
I have another interesting point: Ner'zhul was an orc!!! :D --N'Nanz 11:20, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
I just said those were undead orcs. I never said any thing about the scourge--The last Alterac 09:55, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
- The matter is that you are on the Scourge talking page... --N'Nanz 18:07, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
Cant we just put undead Humanoids?Because there are probuly a lot more races undead.Such as Gnomes,Dwarves,Yetis.Blood elves?Orcs?User:Airiph/sig 01:55, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
Not just humanoids can become Undead, and thus, members of the Scourge - just look at Frost Wyrms, Crypt Lords, and Crypt Fiends. Any race that was living can die, and can then also be brought back with Necromancy. EDIT: Oh, and Orcs are definately in the Scourge. Its led by one, as brought up by N'Nanz.Torturer(OldStyle) 15:23, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
I think its also intresting to note there are no signs of demons (yet) being raised despite there were alot of 'em during the second invasion. Though it makes sense they have (or created) an immunity for being raised, incase their pets would turn against them. (Duke Ragereaver 14:33, 26 January 2008 (UTC))
dreadlods can be necromancers,so they are probuly part of themUser:Airiph/sig 18:36, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
- I doubt it. The Burning Legion and the Scourge don't get along. I can't see Ner'zhul allowing demons into the Scourge, especially demons as cunning, deadly, and potentially traitorous as the nathrezim. -- Dark T Zeratul 19:38, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
Balnazzar?User:Airiph/sig 19:43, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
- Well technically the majority of the orc liches are built from the human bones of the death knights, IIRC. Not sure if we have seen any specific liches that have actual orc bones, or not. Possibly the lich in MoM, but I'm not sure.Baggins 19:58, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
All the scourg is is dead people, so there is probuly a lot we havnt seen.Probuly even dead kobolds!User:Airiph/sig 20:00, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
Well, technically some scourge are still living, or at least on their way to becoming undead. Some death knights, their trainees, some acolytes, some necromancers, most members of the Cult of the Damned, etc.
This picture I found on this site (and a hell lot of places)
http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Scourge.jpg
I have seen this image in a lot of places (I think it is called the Infinite Army?). (Example Dark Ages Of Warcraft. I remember mentioning Azeroth wars strategy its another wc3 custom game like it. (The genre it is in is either called other or I love Ironflinch (I did a poll on a forum called wc3diplo.org to name the genre that had the second most votes))--The last Alterac 10:15, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
And what are you trying to say with this?--Odolwa 13:33, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
I see that picture in alot of places--The last Alterac 21:24, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
- yea it's good fanart. I believe blizzard has used it themselves a few times.Warthok Talk Contribs 15:27, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
Major Faction
I was browsing the Alliance and Horde page, and I noticed in comparison the lore rich scourge is lacking on this page. I think Strengths and Weaknesses should be added.
Strengths: Nearly endless number: Self explanatory, if not, necromancy. Obedience: Other then the forsaken, all undead will follow the Lich King's order's without question. Variety: Spider, Gargoyles, Dragons, oh my.
Weaknesses: Holy Magic: easily takes them down. Lack of Free Will: Can't act on their own or adapt easily.
That's all I can think of at this second, but it should be added onto the page, the scourge may not be playable but it is still a major faction, especially with WotLK.
Rannulf 04:30, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
RP?
This might be abit of topic, but dose any one have any tip's on how to RP as a memmber of the Scourge? TerrorBlades (talk) 18:08, 29 September 2008 (UTC)