Talk:Red dragonflight

While 'Brood of Nozdormu' should be kept separate from 'Bronze Dragonflight' because it is the name of an in-game faction, the same can not be said for 'Brood of Alexstrasza'. -- Varghedin, 28 sept 2006, 16:39 (CET)

I concur. the information on "Brood" is the sort of thing that should be on "Dragonflight." --Ragestorm 16:58, 28 September 2006 (EDT)

Questionable content.

While merging Brood of Alexstrasza with this page, I noticed a few things that do not belong here unless proven with a screenshot or citation, and even plain nonsense. For example, I never noticed any Red Dragons near Onyxia's Cave. Please make a screenshot where it is clear that Red Dragons are near Onyxia's Lair, I've removed it for now. User:Jeoh/Signature

Nonagression to THREE of the Alliance races?

It was High Elves, not Night Elves that Alexstraza pledged nonagression to- not night elves, unless she is including all elf kind. Additionally, wouldn't this protect blood elves from aggression, they being the species of elves Alexstrasza spoke to? Omacron 23:19, 29 January 2007 (EST)

Horde Relations

While we know the red flight hated the old horde, how do they feel regarding the new horde? Hordesupporter 23:53, 15 March 2007 (EDT)

I'd suggest that Alextrasza is optimistic, given her nature. Korialstrasz shows no bias or bad feeling towards orcs in general, as he happily fought alongside Brox. The Flight as a whole doesn't have a problem with the New Horde, provided they don't get in the way. --Ragestorm (talk · contr) 00:01, 16 March 2007 (EDT)

Citations

This page still has a banner at top asking for citations. any particular claims made in the article that still require sources, or should the banner be removed? i'd be happy to look through the books and whatnot to validate or invalidate anything here. Warthok 09:14, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Certainly.

"The red dragonflight is the most powerful of the dragonflights, and was tasked by the Titans to guard and maintain all life on Azeroth." Needs full citation, perhaps from Day of the Dragon. "According to the Manual of Monsters, red dragons have a bearing and stature that recalls the fact that they once ruled as lords over all dragon kind." Needs page number.
"They prefer also to destroy an opposing force's leadership first, ruining its power structure and hopefully setting the younger or less experienced to flight." Needs full citation.
"During the War of the Ancients, she fought alongside the other dragons to stop the Burning Legion coming from the Twisting Nether, while the night elves, tauren, dwarves and furbolg fought on the ground. When Neltharion used the Demon Soul to betray the dragonflights, all broods suffered huge casualties, especially the blue dragons. However, the Bronze, Red and Green dragons were able to get on with living. " Needs multiple citations, mostly from The Well of Eternity.
"Ten thousand years later, the orc clan Dragonmaw led by the warlock Nekros used an ancient artifact known as the Demon Soul to enslave Alexstrasza and force her offspring into the service of the Horde. Nekros kept her in magic bindings in the heart of the mountain of Grim Batol until the mage Rhonin managed to destroy the Demon Soul and set her free. " Needs citation from Day of the Dragon.
"The red dragonflight currently in World of Warcraft appears to be hostile to all other races. However, the brood here is currently not under Alexstrasza's control. They are grown-ups of the left-over whelps that the Horde did not kill, or the drakes that were brainwashed by the Horde. " Needs citation from either the game or lore.
"If Alexstrasza were controlling them, they would not be killing, but they would be showing their love of all things living. Alexstrasza mainly finds life as the best gift ever, and that it shouldn't be wasted. " Needs citation from Day of the Dragon or Well of Eternity?
"Alexstrasza was first captured by the Orcs during the Second War. From capture to escape, an eight year span, she was forced to create more dragons for use in the war. This is the exact opposite of what her Aspect stood for as the guardians of life. Alexstrasza was held captive by the orcs by use of the Demon Soul, an artifact which held power over four of the five dragon aspects. The Orcs had no reason to free Alexstrasza, and this only happened because Nekros, who had control of the Demon Soul, was very paranoid and believed that the Alliance was sending an army at him. Nekros had Alexstrasza (and the eggs) taken out of Grim Batol and moved to the war front. Outside he noticed there was no real threat, but Deathwing wanted Alexstraza in the open. Deathwing then attacked the transport caravan and decimated the Horde guards with some assistance from a small army of Dwarves. Once freed, Alexstraza killed Nekros out of pure hatred and drive for revenge. The Demon Soul was also destroyed which returned the power that was vested in it back to the other four aspects. Alexstrasza, along with Malygos, Nozdormu, and Ysera, proceeded to attack Deathwing finally punishing him for his treachery and driving him away." Needs a couple of citations from Day of the Dragon.

Hope this doesn't scare you :P --Jeoh talk · stalk  16:20, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

ugh. next time i should probably read it. i scanned it over quickly but didn't see anything wrong with it till just now. some of it looks like it was written by someone who read Dotd but was a little confused. other pieces look entirely fabricated or assumptions, as ive read every source printed and i dont remember red dragons being described as "rulers" of dragonkind. closest thing to that is Alexstrasza being Dragonqueen. I'll probably do a rewrite later when i have time and submit it for everyones approval.Warthok 21:05, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

I've editted my comment a bit (was a bitch to read). Anyway, yeah, I would change it myself except that I have exams this week =P Jeoh talk · stalk  21:44, 21 May 2007 (UTC)