Dragon Pens

I thought this so called "Dragon Pens" were in Valgarde?  IconSmall HighElf Male Mr.X8 Talk Contribs

Why would it be in Valgarde? Valgarde is the Alliance city... You knew that right?Baggins 17:56, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

Then we might want to get rid of the stuff saying there is a dragon pens in Valgarde.  IconSmall HighElf Male Mr.X8 Talk Contribs 23:11, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

Well, that was the name of the screenshot on the official site.--SWM2448 23:55, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

The Silver Petal

Remember that flower in Day of the Dragon? That it had a silver petal too? A connection, hmmm? Or not... Only time will tell. --IconSmall Satyr XAVIUS, the Satyr Lord (Praise · Creations) 19:17, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

Since WotLK is using so many other things from Knaaks books I can see that being the basis of the idea behind the Proto Dragons. Leviathon 04:11, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

Skin already in game files

Proto drake skin

with modelviewer you can already see the white skin for Drakes...i saved the image to the right to show it to you. --Gorund 13:52, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

We don't know that that's the proto-dragon skin, though. In fact, I'm pretty sure there's a couple rare spawns that use that skin in Winterspring. -- Dark T Zeratul 21:21, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
Seems like the skin to me.--SWM2448 21:22, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
It could be, but if you look well the first screen in the proto-dragon page, you can see they have the same colors: white as principal color, gold wings and the stripe on the back is that color(I don't know it's name in english lol) too. --Gorund 17:39, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
I called it mint-green.--SWM2448 19:48, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
Hmm... I've seen that drake some where before... User:Coobra/Sig3 20:04, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
What I was getting at is that unless I'm mistaken, there's no confirmation that those are proto-dragons as opposed to just white-colored dragons. -- Dark T Zeratul 20:21, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
All I know is that the white skin has been in the Model viewer for a long time... how long I can't confirm, I only have access to the oldest version on the site 5.0.8 (released in April 07). User:Coobra/Sig3 20:25, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
That white drake skin's been there since 2005, at least, and isn't used by any currently existing NPCs I know of. I wonder if the strange pale purple-and-white dragonspawn skin I found (so far, unused in game) has any connection to these white proto-dragons too, since all we've seen of proto-dragons are drakes. WoWWiki-Presea (talk) 02:38, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
I think its just a place holder for dragons. It might have been used in the past as a small place holder as they made the others. Its also possible that they might just decide to finnaly use the white dragons (No pun intended on my name.) for other then just a place holder for not yet made dragons. Just what I think of course. --Whitedragon254 (talk) 20:26, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Well those things in the movie Blizzard showed in early May are indeed Proto Dragons so that white drake model was just a placeholder. Leviathon (talk) 20:53, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Or both exist.--SWM2448 22:14, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
I doubt that but theres no way to know for sure till beta :p Leviathon (talk) 03:38, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
Could be a mutated form of the white one (probably not but never know Nether Drakes were mutated black dragons basicly) but like you said we dont know until its released. --Whitedragon254 (talk) 21:55, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Would seem the whites do... or rather will have a purpose. Reins of the Albino Drake. User:Coobra/Sig3 07:07, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

Not Drakes?


These easier to see? ;) ---- Battlegroup RoundIconVorbis AvailablequesticonTalk ActivequesticonContribs

These are seen in the Gamespy preview of Howling Fjord, in the part that shows the inside of Utgarde Keep, at 1:42. They look pretty protodragony (With no visible front legs!), in overall shape. They are a bit hard to see, though, unfortunately. Ambelen (talk) 10:04, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

They look considerably different than the drakes in the section above (which I still say are just white-colored drakes). -- Dark T Zeratul (talk) 10:19, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
I had just remembered a dragon already in the game with the name proto in it. This is most likely what they'll be. A lesser form of a dragon. User:Coobra/Sig3 20:28, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
Proto-Nether Drake

Proto-dragon maybe? -- Coobra

It's an Outland basilisk.--User:Gourra/Sig2 20:30, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

Outland Basilisk model

Proto-Nether Drake, hmm, page not made yet... see here for what I mean. User:Coobra/Sig3 20:34, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
It's used in Quest:What Came First, the Drake or the Egg? as a placeholder. Kirkburn  talk  contr 20:35, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

I'd imagine those dragons in the video are how the Proto-Dragons will look as the white skin was probably just a placeholder till they got the model done. Leviathon (talk) 03:07, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

With the WotLK beta it is confirmed that the top screenshot is indeed of proto-dragons. User:Gourra/Sig2 01:19, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

Proto-dragons color

So are the proto-dragons now not going to be mostly white?  Rolandius Paladin (talk - contr) 11:27, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

I was going to respond a few days ago then decided to wait, but after seeing all the new riders in Storm peaks using the newer proto models, and considering the white picture was just removed from this page i'm gonna assume none of the protodragons are white and blizzard simply used one of its existanct-but-unused-models as a PH.Warthok Talk Contribs 01:50, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

LOL Ah well I guess someone can make a page about the white proto-dragon model which will no longer be in the game.  Rolandius Paladin (talk - contr) 02:08, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

It seems the color of the Proto-dragons is connected to the color of the flight that descended from them. For example the Bronze Dragonflight found Proto-dragons (yellow in color) at the Bronze Dragonshrine and realized they were their blood and the Proto-dragons there allied with them and now serve as the Argent Vanguards mounts. Leviathon (talk) 20:41, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

If we are going into that now, I feel that the colors came from environment, as the skins look more like ice and lava than colors. Rolandius' idea for a page should be (if anything) a trivia note on this page.--SWM2448 20:46, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

Wyvern inspired?

As we know, the in-game beast known as a wyvern is not based on real life wyverns, other than it has winged forelegs. These guys seem much more inspired by the actual European depictions. They're more bestial than dragons, they have nearly non-existent forelegs and use their wings more as front limbs than just flying. The only thing missing is fiery snot which wyverns are so infamous for. And they also have a much more devastating reputation than the dragons, being that they'd have to be tamed due to lack of sentience and are naturally aggressive. Also I've noticed Blizz is referring to the in-game wyverns more as "Windriders", and they don't mean the rider of the beast, either. IconSmall FelbloodElf MaleUi-charactercreate-classes warlockMykael Mourningsun

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Everywhere I have looked these creatures are called proto-drakes ... can someone point to me where they are actually referred to as proto-dragons? Even the latest Official WoW magazine called them proto-drakes on page 9. User:Coobra/Sig4 22:23, May 11, 2010 (UTC)

I think it's another case of Blizzard being inconsistant. Galakrond is called a Proto-dragon in the manga. Theres also the quest item "Proto Dragon Bone" and "Stolen Proto-Dragon Eggs" in game. Also Plagued Proto-Dragon. I'm not sure what to make of it all. Maybe one page with everything redirecting to it?Warthok Talk Contribs 22:35, May 11, 2010 (UTC)
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