That's two people who have deleted this page without a violation in place, rather annoying. - Stevenw9
- That is because it is not officially announced and is a violation of the WW:Policy/DNP Un-released content policy (yes we all know that Icecrown Citadel will be in this patch) but we are still on PTR Patch 3.2.2 -- This patch is not ready to be posted yet, hence it is removed until Blizzard announces it Officially. -- (M o r p h | C | T)
17:32, September 1, 2009 (UTC)
- While they haven't yet made an OFFICIAL "Patch 3.3.0 is coming and this is what's in it" announcement, they made multiple references to it at Blizzcon. -- Dark T Zeratul (talk) 18:18, September 1, 2009 (UTC)
- So when the Blizzard staff announce that the Citadel will be in patch 3.3, and announce that patch 3.3.0 will exist, it's not official? How much more official do you need to get then straight from the horse's mouth? Granted, I can understand any info being removed that hasn't been announced by the staff, but anything more then that is just holding back info, IMO. However if the staff of WoWWiki, with all this in mind feel this page should still be deleted, fine. I just don't see the reasoning, but i'm not up for large amounts of problems. - --Stevenw9 (talk) 22:37, September 1, 2009 (UTC)
- I was not disputing the information on the page, because Blizzard has made this announcement before 3.1.0 was ever on the PTR severs, in a statement stating that 3.1.0 will have Ulduar , 3.2.0 will have an Un-Named instance that fans will surely be glad to see (or words to that effect) which we now know to be Onyxia revamped, and 3.3 will have Icecrown Citadel. If you read the DNP policy I listed (it says Released on LIVE / PTR servers) and 3.3 is not on either so it is classified as Unannounce content per that policy. We are on 3.2.2 right now, there could be a 3.2.2a or even 3.2.3 before we hear more about 3.3.0 because it has not been announced yet (so all things are subject to change still). -- (M o r p h | C | T)
23:23, September 1, 2009 (UTC) - P.S. I am not staff (I can NOT delete anything) I was just replying to the original comment about why the page has been deleted and gave the policy that they (STAFF) will use - for it has been used before when I made this page before ( this is NOT the 1st time that Patch 3.3.0 has been made. WoWwiki works in a LINEAR order (3.3 is out of order until we know for a fact that it is the next patch coming) -- (M o r p h | C | T) 23:23, September 1, 2009 (UTC)
- The relevant section of DNP is poorly written, the title of the section implies that it should only apply to content and information obtained through datamining, this interpretation is supported by discussions on the policy's talk page. -- Gordon Ecker (talk) 03:44, September 24, 2009 (UTC)
- A few minor tangents... I just want to be clear that WoWWiki admins are not necessarily MediaWiki staff, but simply editors with "sysop" (the ability to delete pages, among other things), although there are (I believe) 2 of about 30 admins who are actual staff. Also, please start a discussion on the policy forum for WW:DNP if it clarification or expansion is needed.
- In terms of this page, perhaps additional references are needed. I'm sure I've read an interview or a bluepost that said officially there were will be 3 major patches this expansion, and Icecrown will be released in the 3rd one. So, it is, from the horse's mouth. Howbizr(t·c) 5:55 PM, 24 Sep 2009 (EDT)
- The relevant section of DNP is poorly written, the title of the section implies that it should only apply to content and information obtained through datamining, this interpretation is supported by discussions on the policy's talk page. -- Gordon Ecker (talk) 03:44, September 24, 2009 (UTC)
- I was not disputing the information on the page, because Blizzard has made this announcement before 3.1.0 was ever on the PTR severs, in a statement stating that 3.1.0 will have Ulduar , 3.2.0 will have an Un-Named instance that fans will surely be glad to see (or words to that effect) which we now know to be Onyxia revamped, and 3.3 will have Icecrown Citadel. If you read the DNP policy I listed (it says Released on LIVE / PTR servers) and 3.3 is not on either so it is classified as Unannounce content per that policy. We are on 3.2.2 right now, there could be a 3.2.2a or even 3.2.3 before we hear more about 3.3.0 because it has not been announced yet (so all things are subject to change still). -- (M o r p h | C | T)
- So when the Blizzard staff announce that the Citadel will be in patch 3.3, and announce that patch 3.3.0 will exist, it's not official? How much more official do you need to get then straight from the horse's mouth? Granted, I can understand any info being removed that hasn't been announced by the staff, but anything more then that is just holding back info, IMO. However if the staff of WoWWiki, with all this in mind feel this page should still be deleted, fine. I just don't see the reasoning, but i'm not up for large amounts of problems. - --Stevenw9 (talk) 22:37, September 1, 2009 (UTC)
Druid pets
I assume Blizzard is referring to (although vaguely) 
[Force of Nature], or it's a typo. Either way, this article should match the current official patch notes. 
Howbizr(t·c) 9:27 PM, 1 Oct 2009 (EDT)