Talk: Med'an

Are we quite certain on the pedigree? I didn't see any family trees in the preview.Meneldir (talk) 05:18, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

Section has been removed. g0urra[T҂C] 05:45, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

Half-orc is also speculation since we do not know what is the father's race. Rolandius (talk - contr) 06:02, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

All we know for sure is he's at least one quarter orc. He might three quarters, or half if Garona met another half orc.Warthok Talk Contribs 06:16, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

That is what I am saying. He might not be a half-orc since they are 50% orc. If his father is another half-orc then he would be half-orc also since that would make him still 50% orc. Depending on what race his dad is then he could be a combination of races. I think being only 25% orc might take you out of the half-orc category though. Rolandius (talk - contr) 06:35, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

Agreed. I think it's best for the time being to list him as: 1/4 orc.Warthok Talk Contribs 07:40, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

Or we could just put Race = Unknown. Rolandius (talk - contr) 08:19, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

Just read the comic. Garona's a half-orc/half-draenei. No meantion of his father.Warthok Talk Contribs 09:12, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

I see. This page of characters indeed states she's half-draenei. I stand corrected.AMBER^(RΘCK) 02:12, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

Since we don't know who his father is, I'd leave as it is until we discover it. Her mother is a half-orc, so his son, until the comic tell us who his father is, should be a half-orc too. --Lon-ami (talk) 09:44, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

No, the comic states she's half-orc. Nothing is said about her other half.AMBER^(RΘCK) 00:34, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

Are you positive about that? While I don't have the issue yet (the stores in this area are incredibly slow in stocking them as of late), I saw a scan of a sort of roster page from the issue where it states pretty clearly that Garona is half-draenei. --Maenos (talk) 00:45, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

The only way he's even debatably a "half-orc" is if Lantresor of the Blade is his father.  If his dad's an orc (unlikely) it's more than half; if his dad is something else, it's less than 50%.  He's the Warcraft Universe equivalent of what they call a "poi dog."
Farseer Lolotea ● contrib 21:25, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

"Half-elves are the hybrid offspring of both human and high elf, human and half-elf, or of two half-elf parents". A half-elf of human and half-elven descent would technically only be a quarter-elf, but they're still known as half-elves. So we can assume that the same things apply to half-orcs. Even if Med'an isn't exactly half and half then he should still be known as a half-orc. Unless there is some other label that applies to him, such as half-draenei. User:Jormungand01/sig 21:31, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

I totally agree with Jormungand01 --N'Nanz (talk) 21:47, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

According to the respective hybrid pages, half-orcs are human/orc crossbreeds and half-draenei are orc/draenei crossbreeds. I'm changing his race to half-draenei accordingly (this also matches his mother's race). -- Dark T Zeratul (talk) 02:41, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

is it just or a new series of questions shall arise to who Med'an species realyy is i mean we just found out about garona pedigree belonged too, now we have her child to found out , like mother like son :D--Manuel (talk) 12:55, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

That half-race thing is weird. For example, Garona should be half-orc + half-human. Telling things like half-draenei is half-draenei and half-orc is weird. Then, when we have a half-draenei+half-human, how do we call him? --Lon-ami (talk) 19:50, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

Right now it's difficult to say, because we don't know who the father is. I would suggest leaving it as half-draenei for now, since he's definitely got characteristics of both orcs and draenei, and changing it at a later date if more information is revealed. User:Jormungand01/sig 21:22, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

Hmmm, what to call a draenei/human...a Freaky Hybrid, perhaps?  On a more serious note, my guess is that orcs would call a draenei/orc hybrid a half-draenei; draenei would call such a hybrid a half-orc; and other races would probably apply some term that translates to "teal."

I reiterate that unless Med'an's daddy turns out to be Lantresor, his draenic ancestry would still add up to either more or less than half.  And if it turns out that his father is Prophet Velen (there's actual speculation along that line)...I'm going to /headdesk repeatedly.
Farseer Lolotea ● contrib 11:47, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

I'm just curious as to who his father is. If the recent issue seemed to hint, Med'an's father is human. Also Med'an's existence seem to change the events of The Last Guardian. (Omega2010 (talk) 22:36, 27 January 2009 (UTC))

I didn't see any hints in the comic that his father was human.  I didn't see any hints as to who or what his father was at all.
Farseer Lolotea ● contrib 02:32, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

That is the truth. I'll reiterate this: we'll have to wait for future comics in order to gain clues.AMBER^(RΘCK) 03:01, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

I hate to sound a little ignorant/arrogant here, but why are we speculating/wondering who the father is? Med'an is half-draenei, his mother is half-draenei, why would the father be anything else? And before you start pulling the half-elf stuff on me, that's for half-ELVES. Just because humans and half-elves can get it on to make another half-elf doesn't mean it's the same with humans/half-draenei. For all we know, it could come out as a troll.

Once again, sorry if I sounded a little ignorant/arrogant, but I just don't see the point of the arguement. Toran Wildpaw of the Frenzyheart (talk) 03:39, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

There is NO POINT in trying to speculate who the father is - he will probably appear in a later issue. I'm closing this discussion now. g0urra[T҂C] 12:30, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

I'm sorry Gourra, but there's just ONE little thing I wanna say before the discussion's closed.

Stop assuming that just because Lantresor is half-draenei, HE has to be the father in order for Med'an to be half-draenei. Lantresor is the only KNOWN half-draenei besides Garona and Med'an, not the only one. It's very possible that there are other half-draenei lurking out there that simply haven't been discovered yet. And it could be anyone. Hell, it could've even been some unknown brother for all the information we have.

Alright, as Gourra said, discussion over, nothing to see here, MOVE ALONG YOU! -points at a pair of gnomes- Toran Wildpaw of the Frenzyheart (talk) 20:21, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

am i too bold to suggest... virgin birth? --Manuel (talk) 01:34, 29 January 2009 (UTC)