Talk: Outland uncommon gems

Revision as of 04:06, 10 June 2008

So... What cleanup did you have in mind, Fandyllic? --Eirik Ratcatcher 17:29, 13 March 2007 (EDT)

Xhamon Diagram?

As a JC myself, I found those "Xhamon Diagram" not very suitable to stay in wiki. They may look beautiful, but are out-of-date, oversimplified and somewhat misleading. Besides, I despise people adding their names on the page for no good reason. WakemanCK 03:29, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

RE: Xhamon Diagram?

Dear WakemanCK,
I can always accept criticism, but I'd be even more inclined to accept it if it was done in a respectful, constructive and professional manner. Consider this:

I made these diagrams one year ago. They were complete then, but not anymore. I am aware that they need to be updated and I will do so soon.
My original intent when I made those was to make public this tool I created so it could be profitable to other jewelcrafters. I don't necessarily want to take credit about them, the thing is: This is probably not the only way to classify the existing gems and because of that fact, I could not give them a generic name like "Circular Diagrams" or "Cyclic Diagrams". I am aware that the fact to see someone give his own name to something may look selfish, but it is actually quite a common behavior. There are many, many mathematical theorems and physical laws that bear the name of their authors. Even now, I think about it and I can't think of any other suitable name. Anyone has a suggestion?
When I made those, my intent was to create a map of all the green gems, not a guide. Of course I encourage people to look in specific guides to make their choice. When you say "incomplete", "oversimplified", "misleading" and "lack of attempt to differentiate the different needs for [...]", I think that is irrelevant because you just didn't get the point. I will clarify the intent in the article.
The sentence you wrote "Do not rely on those diagrams when making gem choice!" clearly breaches the "neutral point of view" policy of this wiki. While it is not completely wrong, you can never use the imperative mood towards the readers of a wiki.

I'll be removing part of what you wrote and rephrasing/integrating the rest to restore the neutral point of view of this article.
Xhamon (talk) 04:06, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

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 As a JC myself, I found those "Xhamon Diagram" not very suitable to stay in wiki. They may look beautiful, but are out-of-date, oversimplified and somewhat misleading. Besides, I despise people adding their names on the page for no good reason.  [[User:WakemanCK|WakemanCK]] 03:29, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
+=== RE: Xhamon Diagram? ===
+Dear WakemanCK,<br>
+I can always accept criticism, but I'd be even more inclined to accept it if it was done in a respectful, constructive and professional manner. Consider this:
+*I made these diagrams one year ago. They were complete then, but not anymore. I am aware that they need to be updated and I will do so soon.
+*My original intent when I made those was to make public this tool I created so it could be profitable to other jewelcrafters. I don't necessarily want to take credit about them, the thing is: This is probably not the only way to classify the existing gems and because of that fact, I could not give them a generic name like "Circular Diagrams" or "Cyclic Diagrams". I am aware that the fact to see someone give his own name to something may look selfish, but it is actually quite a common behavior. There are many, many mathematical theorems and physical laws that bear the name of their authors. Even now, I think about it and I can't think of any other suitable name. Anyone has a suggestion?
+*When I made those, my intent was to create a map of all the green gems, not a guide. Of course I encourage people to look in specific guides to make their choice. When you say "incomplete", "oversimplified", "misleading" and "lack of attempt to differentiate the different needs for [...]", I think that is irrelevant because you just didn't get the point. I will clarify the intent in the article.
+*The sentence you wrote "Do not rely on those diagrams when making gem choice!" clearly breaches the "neutral point of view" policy of this wiki. While it is not completely wrong, you can never use the imperative mood towards the readers of a wiki.
+I'll be removing part of what you wrote and rephrasing/integrating the rest to restore the neutral point of view of this article.<br>[[User:Xhamon|Xhamon]] ([[User talk:Xhamon|talk]]) 04:06, 10 June 2008 (UTC)