Slumbering may mean dead. An alliance with the Lich King could be to bring him back. Just a thought.--19:22, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
- It can also mean that he is slumbering, but not without awareness, like the green dragons, who are also slumbering but controlling their bodies from their Emerald Dream. Also a thought. ----  , the Necroshadowmancer 21:04, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
Is he... Awake?
- See Queen Angerboda. He wakes up after you kill her.-- 20:26, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
Neither Ymirjar nor Vargul?
It is stated throughout Icecrown and Storm Peaks that all Vrykul, presumably upon reaching adulthood, undergo challenges (either the Hyldsmeet or battling at Valhalas) that determine whether they will become Ymirjar or Vargul. Clearly Ymiron does not have the blue skin or frost accumulation of an Ymirjar warrior, and is undead. Does this mean he failed his challenge? Thio: Talk and Contributions 11:24, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
No, as whether or not these trials previously existed in a different form, neither vargul nor ymirjar existed before the coming of the Lich King. Ymiron is over 15 millenia old, thus predating this practice by eons. His undeath is a "gift" of sorts. ---- Vorbis Talk Contribs 13:48, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
Edit: Ran on normal tonight, and only got two boats triggered - seems to be a time function, not damage, at least on normal. Anyone else confirm this, with times? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Angeicmar (talk • contr).