I was wondering should I add how the GLF temporarily liberated Gilneas? Rimor Conscientia (talk) 17:50, September 11, 2010 (UTC)
- GLF?
(Sssss/Slithered) 20:39, September 11, 2010 (UTC) - Gilneas Liberation Front.--SWM2448 20:59, September 11, 2010 (UTC)
Why can't we consider the war of GLF against the Forsaken part of the Invasion of Gilneas? -- G.L.F. High Commander (talk) 09:04, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
- It's mentioned in the aftermath section. Do you have something else in mind? --Bellocois (talk) 09:48, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
- I mean why is it in the aftermath? Maybe it can be just second phase of the Invasion of Gilneas, or do we mean under the "Invasion of Gilneas" only the Worgen starting experience questline? G.L.F. High Commander (talk) 19:59, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
- It is the aftermath cause Invasion is always the begining of any War. Since the invasion part has concluded now it's the war for Gilenas. For instance Tol Barad is the target of the attack to become a stagging ground for the Horde forces during the Gilneas war. Same goes for the Battle for Gilneas
Encaitar 
18:53, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
- Yes, of course, an invasion is a beginning of any war, but that doesn't mean that the Invasion and the War are separate parts of the story. If now Gilneas is a contested territory, the Invasion of Gilneas must end on the part where the war ended and none of the sides gained utter cotrol over Gilneas. And if GLF temporarily liberated Gilneas, then it is an important part of the whole war. Am I right? G.L.F. High Commander (talk) 09:11, 12 January 2011 (UTC)
- Yes but this article describes the so called Worgen Starting Experience and not the whole war. Also they didn't liberate it alone either. It was the 7th Legion under command of Halford Wyrmbane (which can be seen standing atop of the gnomish submarine's deck in one of the Silverpine Forsaken quests) that actualy did. Gilneas Front was actualy waiting for the to arrive, because until then they were on even ground with the Forsaken forces. Encaitar 17:21, 12 January 2011 (UTC)
- That was the very question I was asking from the beginning: is the Invasion of Gilneas simply another name for the Worgen Starting Experience or not! If yes, then yes, the GLF activities are the aftermath which will be described as either another article or simply will be part of the Alliance-Horde war. G.L.F. High Commander (talk) 16:56, 13 January 2011 (UTC)
- The GLF atctivities should already be described in Hillsbrad Foothills and Silverpine Forest Storyline/Questline articles. Encaitar 12:25, 14 January 2011 (UTC)
- The GLF atctivities should already be described in Hillsbrad Foothills and Silverpine Forest Storyline/Questline articles.
- That was the very question I was asking from the beginning: is the Invasion of Gilneas simply another name for the Worgen Starting Experience or not! If yes, then yes, the GLF activities are the aftermath which will be described as either another article or simply will be part of the Alliance-Horde war. G.L.F. High Commander (talk) 16:56, 13 January 2011 (UTC)
- Yes but this article describes the so called Worgen Starting Experience and not the whole war. Also they didn't liberate it alone either. It was the 7th Legion under command of Halford Wyrmbane (which can be seen standing atop of the gnomish submarine's deck in one of the Silverpine Forsaken quests) that actualy did. Gilneas Front was actualy waiting for the to arrive, because until then they were on even ground with the Forsaken forces.
- Yes, of course, an invasion is a beginning of any war, but that doesn't mean that the Invasion and the War are separate parts of the story. If now Gilneas is a contested territory, the Invasion of Gilneas must end on the part where the war ended and none of the sides gained utter cotrol over Gilneas. And if GLF temporarily liberated Gilneas, then it is an important part of the whole war. Am I right? G.L.F. High Commander (talk) 09:11, 12 January 2011 (UTC)
- It is the aftermath cause Invasion is always the begining of any War. Since the invasion part has concluded now it's the war for Gilenas. For instance Tol Barad is the target of the attack to become a stagging ground for the Horde forces during the Gilneas war. Same goes for the Battle for Gilneas
- I mean why is it in the aftermath? Maybe it can be just second phase of the Invasion of Gilneas, or do we mean under the "Invasion of Gilneas" only the Worgen starting experience questline? G.L.F. High Commander (talk) 19:59, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
So, what happenned? Why did someone at last change the article as I told it should be? And after so long, when I though it is already desided, that the IoG and GLF activities are different parts of the lore and nothing is going to be changed? G.L.F. High Commander (talk) 10:41, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
- If you noticed who did this particular edit, it was someone who just made an account and I doubt that he even read our discussion here. Encaitar 19:54, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
- Yeah, so you mean that whoever did it he made a wrong thing and the article will be changed to its former state again, yes? G.L.F. High Commander (talk) 20:15, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
- No I'm just saying that he did it, although it was previously decided to be part of another article. What we shall do with it is irrelevent, since it's not what you asked for. You've asked why was it changed:P Encaitar 12:57, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
- Well, I was just really suprised, nothing more. But since I did not really agree that GLF is not part of the Invasion of Gilneas, now I am happy, and hope it won't be changed anymore :)... G.L.F. High Commander (talk) 13:44, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
- No I'm just saying that he did it, although it was previously decided to be part of another article. What we shall do with it is irrelevent, since it's not what you asked for. You've asked why was it changed:P
- Yeah, so you mean that whoever did it he made a wrong thing and the article will be changed to its former state again, yes? G.L.F. High Commander (talk) 20:15, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
Why is Ambermill considered destroyed under the "Outcome" section? Shouldn't it be conquered by the Forsaken instead? Ujimasa Hojo (talk) 16:59, 2 January 2014 (UTC)
- Because the town is abandoned. That might be a better way of putting it.--SWM2448 23:13, 2 January 2014 (UTC)
- The page is fine as it is. If you walk there after the quests, the town is empty except for the elementals. That is what we know, and the Ambermill page says that. We can not say that we do not know the current status of every area, just because the world is expected to have moved on outside of the plot. With Gilneas, it was ambiguous because the issue was dropped in the middle of a war so players could move on to Hillsbrad. Despite Crowley's surrender of Silverpine Forest (and Gilneas City as we later found out) Worgen rushers still were running around Forsaken Forward Command and the 7th Legion submariners still marched to the Greymane Wall. With Ambermill, from what we see, the Forsaken probably move on.--SWM2448 23:47, 3 January 2014 (UTC)
Recent changes[]
Recent changes have mentioned the alleged abandonment of Gilneas and occupation by Creed. Since the entire event took place in Patch 4.0.3a and these events took place several patches later, I will be removing them, as they have nothing to do with the Invasion and are likely un-canon. Better to just stick with the facts. ShadowShade81413 (talk) 22:01, 4 January 2014 (UTC)
- The UVG is canon, and came out an expansion after the quest with Creed. Deal with it.--SWM2448 22:14, 4 January 2014 (UTC)
- Creed's appearance in Gilneas is canon. And why did you remove the UVG info? That's also canon. BTW, you added nice info on Aldous Lescovar's page. Don't you want to continue like that? That will be very appreciated.--Mordecay (talk) 22:18, 4 January 2014 (UTC)
Garrosh's order[]
Where is it stated that it was Garrosh who ordered Sylvanas to invade Gilneas? I am trying to find a source for it, but I can't. The link given on this page is currently dead, so I used a website to look at the link at a former date, and even though the page opened I couldn't find any information about it being Garrosh's order. Djemerez (talk) 17:07, 14 June 2015 (UTC)
- Edge of Night, I think. Was a while since I read it. -- DeludedTroll (talk • contribs) 17:11, 14 June 2015 (UTC)
