Was he ever a pilot? He is wearing what looks to be pilot's headgear.  Rolandius Paladin (talk - contr) 03:13, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

Scroll down, "In Warcraft Adventures, after the Second War, Gazlowe would have been an ally of Thrall, and helped him travel around the Eastern Kingdoms after his escape from the internment camp by fixing a zeppelin." User:Coobra/Sig3 03:16, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

Does that count as pilot or still just an engineer?  Rolandius Paladin (talk - contr) 03:23, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
If you are intending on changing the infobox, don't. Warcraft Adventures was never officially released, as such its story has little to no baring on present lore. What little can be gleaned from articles and screenshots from the game are often very different that what was later released as Lord of the Clans, or other later released info about the period.Baggins (talk) 03:30, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
And yeah, as Rolandius pointed out, fixing zeppelins is not the same thing as flying them. -- Dark T Zeratul (talk)
LOL No I am not intending to change the infobox. I was just wondering if he was ever a pilot and engineer or just an engineer.  Rolandius Paladin (talk - contr) 03:34, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
Or do engineers wear that headgear too?  Rolandius Paladin (talk - contr) 03:34, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
As far as I know from production shots he was fixing his own zeppelin, and there was no other crew to fly it. I think they were going to make him the pilot of the zep. Once Thrall helped him fix the zep, then Gazlowe would be able to take him anywhere he wanted to go. One article described Gazlowe in the game would have been Thrall's "cabby" driver.Baggins (talk) 03:35, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
Well, many engineers do wear goggles, look at most gnomes... but What I got from 'helped him travel around the Eastern Kingdoms' was that he piloted the zep after fixing it. EDIT: And what Baggins said. User:Coobra/Sig3 03:37, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
So I guess he was going to be a pilot/engineer. I know a lot of engineers wear goggles, but do they wear that headgear part too? The part on his head, although he hasn't tied the straps around his chin. Aren't goblins' inventions not that reliable anymore according to the goblin page? If I were Thrall I wouldn't want to go on a zepellin that needed "fixing".  Rolandius Paladin (talk - contr) 03:44, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
So you'd rather stay in the internment camp and be abused then? User:Coobra/Sig3 03:46, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
I would do what Thrall did in Lord of the Clans.  Rolandius Paladin (talk - contr) 03:49, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
First of all, this is not a forum. Second of all, the game was aborted, and it is most likely that Gazlowe's appearance and nature have been changed. --Ragestorm (talk · contr) 13:52, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
Yet the image is still on the page.  Rolandius Paladin (talk - contr) 01:23, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
That's what we call posterity. --Ragestorm (talk · contr) 01:49, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
You mean for historical archival reasons?  Rolandius Paladin (talk - contr) 01:56, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
It's because even though the events that would have taken place in the game never happened, that doesn't change the fact that it's still a picture of Gazlowe. -- Dark T Zeratul (talk) 05:16, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
Its also the only official original artwork given for Gazlowe as far as I know, unless he's gotten a TCG card. Artwork is usually used in the infobox over generic ingame model use. I don't have my copy of Art of Warcraft, but I'm pretty sure this is the Gazlowe artwork that shows up in that book as well.Baggins (talk) 06:47, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
Are you saying that for the infobox in the page that artwork takes precendence over screenshots or just over in-game models?  Rolandius Paladin (talk - contr) 09:01, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
Unless it's a tactics page for a boss that has a separate lore page (i.e. Kael'thas, Magtheridon, etc) then yes, I believe that is generally the case. -- Dark T Zeratul (talk) 09:08, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
Which one? Artwork takes precendence over in-game models or screenshots or both? I always remember hearing about screenshots were the best thing over artwork and in-game models for pages.  Rolandius Paladin (talk - contr) 09:13, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
Our infobox order of precedence is: Cinematic shot, Good artwork, Good in-game screenie, bad screenie, bad/outdated artwork. Fanart and modelviewer images are never allowed. --Ragestorm (talk · contr) 13:41, 31 July 2008 (UTC)


"Although he is shown as a group of goblins in Warcraft 3, he is only one person." So Warcraft III wanted to confuse the player?  Rolandius Paladin (talk - contr) 05:50, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

No, it's that there were no individual goblin units in Warcraft 3 (at the time; a couple of goblin hero units have been patched in since then). The only two goblin units were the zeppelin and the sapper. Since they couldn't use the zeppelin for obvious reasons, they went with the sapper despite the unit being a pair of goblins. -- Dark T Zeratul (talk) 07:29, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
Oh so he is shown as 2 goblins but not 3. Ok.  Rolandius Paladin (talk - contr) 10:08, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

Secure the Wells quest Edit

There is trigger data in the Frozen Throne OrcX01*.w3x maps for an optional quest given by Gazlowe called "Secure the Wells" (located under Optional Quests D in the Trigger Editor), but as far as I can tell the triggers aren't actually reachable from any of the maps. Anyone know anything (beyond what can be gleaned from the quest description embedded in the Quest SecureWells Create trigger) about what this quest was meant to be, what its intended rewards were, and why Blizzard decided to eliminate it? John Darrow (talk) 22:07, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Gazlowe and the Goblin Faction Edit

I was just wondering how Gazlowe will relate to the new Goblin faction. I wouldn't be surprised if he would become their best ally, maybe even their racial leader, seeing he's one of the best known goblins around and not -really- linked to a faction like Baron Revilgaz. Also, the playable Goblins seem to lose their leader early on, due to him being a giant nobhead. So, is it possible for him to become related to this new Goblin faction or will he stubbornly cling to the Steamwheedle Cartel? Wolfstorm11 (talk) 11:39, June 14, 2010 (UTC)