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==Frostwolves?==
 
Am I the only one who's always found the "Frostwolf Clan" a little... erm... fishy? They were named the Frostwolf Clan before their exhile in Azeroth; hence... frost wolves must exist on Outland? o.O --[[User:Pure.Wasted|Pure.Wasted]] 22:07, 26 September 2006 (EDT)
 
Am I the only one who's always found the "Frostwolf Clan" a little... erm... fishy? They were named the Frostwolf Clan before their exhile in Azeroth; hence... frost wolves must exist on Outland? o.O --[[User:Pure.Wasted|Pure.Wasted]] 22:07, 26 September 2006 (EDT)
   
 
I dunno... yeah it does sound kinda wierd. Maybe Wolves are indigenous to Draenor... no wait that makes no sense. Wolves would have had to spread ALOT in such a short time to get to the level they are now.
 
I dunno... yeah it does sound kinda wierd. Maybe Wolves are indigenous to Draenor... no wait that makes no sense. Wolves would have had to spread ALOT in such a short time to get to the level they are now.
 
: There are worgs walking around in Outland, so yeah, it's possible. What seems odd to me, however, is the "Frost" bit.. --[[User:Tinkerer|Tinkerer]] 04:23, 4 November 2006 (EST)
 
: There are worgs walking around in Outland, so yeah, it's possible. What seems odd to me, however, is the "Frost" bit.. --[[User:Tinkerer|Tinkerer]] 04:23, 4 November 2006 (EST)
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::Well, I'm pretty sure there's a jungle in Draenor, so I don't see why a glacious mountain would be so far-fetched [[User:Saimdusan|Saimdusan]]
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:::Wolves are definitely native to both Draenor and Azeroth. Wolves are discussed in Rise of the Horde as well. Later it also mentions that snow falls in Nagrand, and that it frosts in Terrokar forest. It also turns out according to the book that a Frostwolf is a species of wolf noted for its white pelt.[[User:Baggins|Baggins]] 18:53, 8 January 2007 (EST)
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::::In the book [[Rise_of_the_Horde|Rise of the horde]] it states right at the end the the frost wolves were part off the clan in Outland and that they moved with the exiled clan through the portal. Hence the current frost wolves are decendents from original dreanor wolves. --[[User:Diggory|Diggory]] 04:42, 29 January 2007 (EST)
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:::::Maybe when the portals tore Draenor apart, the snowy area the Frostwolves came from was destroyed and lost? --[[User:Azaram|Azaram]] 05:40, 13 March 2007 (EDT)
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== Orgrim Doomerhammer ==
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Just a small thing, when the blood of manneroth was offered to the clans, orgrim wasnt a cheiftan at the time, only a 2nd in command. --[[User:Diggory|Diggory]] 04:43, 29 January 2007 (EST)
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:Doomhammer was from the Blackrock Clan, not the Frostwolves. Eman91 00:58, 5 June 2008 (UTC)[[User:Eman91|Eman91]]
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== South Park Episode ==
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In a South Park episode based on WoW Kyle appears to be wearing a Frostwolf Tabard even though he's a human - is this worth mentioning? --[[User:Kinyi|Kinyi]] 16:22, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
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This episode is based with machinima, they were able to put many things on everything, like a draenei with the Horde tabard ;) .[[wikipedia:Make Love, Not Warcraft|Make Love, Not Warcraft]] -- [[User:Cedlemieux|Cedlemieux]] unknow hour, August 30 2007 (EST)
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== Why are they green? ==
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this is a dumb question, and is probably explained somewhere else:
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What is the deal with them being green? I thought they never drank mannoroth's blood. shouldn't they be Mag'har?--Truckman1 20:40, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
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(also, because i know nothing about how wikia talk stuff works, idk why what i just wrote is in a box--Truckman1 20:41, 8 May 2008 (UTC))
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:They were ''near'' demonic magic.--{{User:Sandwichman2448/Sig}} 20:51, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
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::In a way it's a bit of a "[[retcon]]". Orcs who were revealed in later sources not to have drunk the blood had to be turned green somehow as so many sources had said all orcs (on Azeroth) were green. {{User:Kirkburn/Sig4}} 21:00, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
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:::Proximity to demonic magic. The orcs were slowly turning green even before they drank the blood of Mannoroth. -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] ([[User talk:Dark T Zeratul|talk]]) 22:08, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
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:::That's still not good enough. Nagrand has been mentioned to be corrupted also during that time in the novel BtDP (to a lesser extent, but still corrupted) but the orcs stationed there are brown. Also Garrosh and Kilrogg's son are also brown-skinned. [[User:Neltharion|Neltharion]] ([[User talk:Neltharion|talk]]) 03:21, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
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==Category==
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Why does the page Frostwolf clan have to include the Frost wolf category if that its name already? Just wondering. &nbsp;[[User:Rolandius|<span style="" title="x20px">{{#if:Rolandius|Rolandius|Rolandius}}</span>]]&nbsp;{{#if:Wc3Knight.gif|[[Image:Wc3Knight.gif|16x16px|x20px]]&nbsp;}}<small>([[User talk:Rolandius|<span style="" title="{{#if:Rolandius|Rolandius|Rolandius}}'s Talk">talk</span>]]&nbsp;-&nbsp;[[Special:Contributions/Rolandius|<span style="" title="{{#if:Rolandius|Rolandius|Rolandius}}'s Contributions">contr</span>]]{{#if:|&nbsp;-&nbsp;[ <span style="" title="{{#if:Rolandius|Rolandius|Rolandius}}'s Website">web</span>]}})</small> 13:38, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
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==Chieftains==
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Currently the '''SuccessionBox''' in the articles for [[Durotan]] and [[Thrall]] list them as being the two successive Chieftains of the Frostwolf Clan. Before anything is changed, I'd like to know if there are others who think [[Drek'Thar]] should be mentioned as the ''de facto'' chieftain to cover the years between Durotan and Thrall. The article for Drek'Thar does exactly that, claiming that ''"[w]ith Durotan and his heir gone, Drek'Thar assumed the chieftaincy of the Frostwolves"''. -- [[User:LastStand|LastStand]] ([[User talk:LastStand|talk]]) 11:56, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
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:That's the exact thing I was going to say when getting here. He is the current leader of the Frostwolves but also he was a past leader. [[User:Neltharion|Neltharion]] ([[User talk:Neltharion|talk]]) 03:19, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
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::As an addendum to this, did Thrall ever actually become chieftain of the Frostwolves? I don't recall Drek'thar actually turning control over to him, and he succeeded Doomhammer as Warchief of the Horde soon after arriving anyway. -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] ([[User talk:Dark T Zeratul|talk]]) 03:27, May 10, 2010 (UTC)
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:::Hmm, looking through HPG, I found a passage on page 171 "he trained with Drek’Thar and learned the ways of his clan, undergoing many trials before learning the ways of the shaman and taking on the mantle of the clan. When Thrall took command of the Horde as a whole, the Frostwolf Clan joined." ... If taking on the mantle of the clan means becoming chieftain, then yes. Otherwise, I can't seem to find any other references at the moment. {{User:Coobra/Sig4}} 03:35, May 10, 2010 (UTC)
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:::Here we go, page 194 "Most of them ride great white wolves to battle — some say this practice is in homageof the Frostwolf Clan, of which Thrall was the warchief before he united the Horde." {{User:Coobra/Sig4}} 03:39, May 10, 2010 (UTC)

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Frostwolves?

Am I the only one who's always found the "Frostwolf Clan" a little... erm... fishy? They were named the Frostwolf Clan before their exhile in Azeroth; hence... frost wolves must exist on Outland? o.O --Pure.Wasted 22:07, 26 September 2006 (EDT)

I dunno... yeah it does sound kinda wierd. Maybe Wolves are indigenous to Draenor... no wait that makes no sense. Wolves would have had to spread ALOT in such a short time to get to the level they are now.

There are worgs walking around in Outland, so yeah, it's possible. What seems odd to me, however, is the "Frost" bit.. --Tinkerer 04:23, 4 November 2006 (EST)
Well, I'm pretty sure there's a jungle in Draenor, so I don't see why a glacious mountain would be so far-fetched Saimdusan
Wolves are definitely native to both Draenor and Azeroth. Wolves are discussed in Rise of the Horde as well. Later it also mentions that snow falls in Nagrand, and that it frosts in Terrokar forest. It also turns out according to the book that a Frostwolf is a species of wolf noted for its white pelt.Baggins 18:53, 8 January 2007 (EST)
In the book Rise of the horde it states right at the end the the frost wolves were part off the clan in Outland and that they moved with the exiled clan through the portal. Hence the current frost wolves are decendents from original dreanor wolves. --Diggory 04:42, 29 January 2007 (EST)
Maybe when the portals tore Draenor apart, the snowy area the Frostwolves came from was destroyed and lost? --Azaram 05:40, 13 March 2007 (EDT)

Orgrim Doomerhammer

Just a small thing, when the blood of manneroth was offered to the clans, orgrim wasnt a cheiftan at the time, only a 2nd in command. --Diggory 04:43, 29 January 2007 (EST)

Doomhammer was from the Blackrock Clan, not the Frostwolves. Eman91 00:58, 5 June 2008 (UTC)Eman91

South Park Episode

In a South Park episode based on WoW Kyle appears to be wearing a Frostwolf Tabard even though he's a human - is this worth mentioning? --Kinyi 16:22, 17 June 2007 (UTC)


This episode is based with machinima, they were able to put many things on everything, like a draenei with the Horde tabard ;) .Make Love, Not Warcraft -- Cedlemieux unknow hour, August 30 2007 (EST)

Why are they green?

this is a dumb question, and is probably explained somewhere else:

What is the deal with them being green? I thought they never drank mannoroth's blood. shouldn't they be Mag'har?--Truckman1 20:40, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

(also, because i know nothing about how wikia talk stuff works, idk why what i just wrote is in a box--Truckman1 20:41, 8 May 2008 (UTC))

They were near demonic magic.--SWM2448 20:51, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
In a way it's a bit of a "retcon". Orcs who were revealed in later sources not to have drunk the blood had to be turned green somehow as so many sources had said all orcs (on Azeroth) were green. Kirkburn  talk  contr 21:00, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
Proximity to demonic magic. The orcs were slowly turning green even before they drank the blood of Mannoroth. -- Dark T Zeratul (talk) 22:08, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
That's still not good enough. Nagrand has been mentioned to be corrupted also during that time in the novel BtDP (to a lesser extent, but still corrupted) but the orcs stationed there are brown. Also Garrosh and Kilrogg's son are also brown-skinned. Neltharion (talk) 03:21, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

Category

Why does the page Frostwolf clan have to include the Frost wolf category if that its name already? Just wondering.  Rolandius Wc3Knight (talk - contr) 13:38, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

Chieftains

Currently the SuccessionBox in the articles for Durotan and Thrall list them as being the two successive Chieftains of the Frostwolf Clan. Before anything is changed, I'd like to know if there are others who think Drek'Thar should be mentioned as the de facto chieftain to cover the years between Durotan and Thrall. The article for Drek'Thar does exactly that, claiming that "[w]ith Durotan and his heir gone, Drek'Thar assumed the chieftaincy of the Frostwolves". -- LastStand (talk) 11:56, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

That's the exact thing I was going to say when getting here. He is the current leader of the Frostwolves but also he was a past leader. Neltharion (talk) 03:19, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
As an addendum to this, did Thrall ever actually become chieftain of the Frostwolves? I don't recall Drek'thar actually turning control over to him, and he succeeded Doomhammer as Warchief of the Horde soon after arriving anyway. -- Dark T Zeratul (talk) 03:27, May 10, 2010 (UTC)
Hmm, looking through HPG, I found a passage on page 171 "he trained with Drek’Thar and learned the ways of his clan, undergoing many trials before learning the ways of the shaman and taking on the mantle of the clan. When Thrall took command of the Horde as a whole, the Frostwolf Clan joined." ... If taking on the mantle of the clan means becoming chieftain, then yes. Otherwise, I can't seem to find any other references at the moment. SnakeSssssssssssssssssssssssss Coobra sig3For Pony! (Sssss/Slithered) 03:35, May 10, 2010 (UTC)
Here we go, page 194 "Most of them ride great white wolves to battle — some say this practice is in homageof the Frostwolf Clan, of which Thrall was the warchief before he united the Horde." SnakeSssssssssssssssssssssssss Coobra sig3For Pony! (Sssss/Slithered) 03:39, May 10, 2010 (UTC)