look at this.. --N'Nanz 11:49, 29 October 2006
- Wowah. Congrats to Blizzard for that :o --Tinkerer 06:54, 29 October 2006 (EST)
Original founder?
Somehow I believe that line needs work, seeing that highelves apparently don't get that old. If Dar'K was one of the elves that came across the ocean with Dath'Remar that would make him a good more than 10.000 years old. I'd rather say he was one of the leading magi of the recent times.--Maibe 19:00, 12 April 2007 (EDT)
- Yes, you're probably right. The manga does show him along with several others at what appears to be an early Sunwell (located in a clearing in the forest), and taking part in the construction of the kingdom, though this must have been much more recent, unless he had some unusually long lifespan.
- I just think it's just because Knaak (again) appears to have no real idea of the facts...Reading the manwha one gets to wonder if knaak ever played WC3, hence if the artist got any other references than the WoW-Artbook...--Maibe 18:00, 18 April 2007 (EDT)
- And you seem to forget that everything that is written under the Warcraft name goes through Metzen first. Either he forgot, or he thought it was a nice change, or he didn't see it. Blaming the author in this case is the wrong thing to do. --User:Sky2042/Sig 18:03, 18 April 2007 (EDT)
- I just think it's just because Knaak (again) appears to have no real idea of the facts...Reading the manwha one gets to wonder if knaak ever played WC3, hence if the artist got any other references than the WoW-Artbook...--Maibe 18:00, 18 April 2007 (EDT)
- Not in Knaak's case...compare him with the other author's (okay...-cycle of hatred- is the worst WoWBook by far) and you'll see more retcons and twisting of facts just so he can explain something he thinks nice in the story than anywhere else. But sadly, I think it's become common for Blizzard to retcon the hell out of a fact just so they have an excuse for another dungeon...Unless, like in this case, the conspiracy-theory about Sylvanas, Varimathras, the Scarlets and the legion are correct. The bloodelves and the events in Sunwell-Trilogy (as we think we know them to have happened now) would actually fit more than perfectly...without, and that's important, adjusting the 'facts' to the theory.--Maibe 06:54, 20 April 2007 (EDT)
May I note that it has never officially been stated that high elves would not have been immortal before the loss of the Sunwell. Tichondrius said; "Beware, it is a pool of mystic energies from which the elves draw their immortal powers. They will not give it up easily."
What the RPGs say is about CURRENT high elves. Although the RPGs or the official Warcraft Encyclopedia do not say that high elves would have been, I dare to say that the possibility cannot be discounted. One might ask "Isn't it strange that the Encyclopedia or the RPGs would not mention such thing?". I do not think so, Blizzard and the RPG writers could very well be a bit absent minded (as they have shown in several cases).
On the other hand, it is possible that the high elves were intended to be immortal at the time Warcraft III was made (think about Tichondrius' words, although one cannot be entirely sure what he meant with "immortals powers") but was later retconned, then the idea was brought back (either purposely or by mistake) in Sunwell Trilogy when they were making Dar'Khan's story.
Of course, this is speculation, and I am not even remotely implying that this view of mine would be a fact. Regards, --Theron the Just 20:55, 12 June 2007 (UTC)