Talk:Aethas Sunreaver

Member of the Six?

I think we could add some speculation about him becoming member of the six of the kirin tor after kael'thas left the six. He also appears in the Violet Citadel as one of the rulers.--Cyrdaz (talk) 19:32, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

Yes, he must be one of the ruling members. The Horde section in Dalaran is named after him, so he is most likely granting them sanctuary. - Dragola

Yeah, maybe a beta tester found a quest text which proves our speculation. Would be very nice. --Cyrdaz (talk) 11:36, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

I searched articles in WoWWiki concerning Aethas and I found "The Six" and "Kirin Tor" already accepting him as a member of "The Six". So would you agree if I'll delete the "Speculation" template? --Cyrdaz (talk) 18:32, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

Already taken care of ;) Dragola (talk) 21:06, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

Who is underneath the mask?

I find it odd that the leader of the blood elf faction in Dalaran has covered his face, it could be anyone under that mask.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Propagandor (talk · contr).

Actually it isn't that odd, Look at Romath, he is the leader of the Magisters and he also wears a mask (although it does not cover his eyes). Could be Belf fashion for Magisters and Mages hehe--Dehnus (talk) 11:01, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

Sorry couldn't resist posting. Yes what you call "Belf fashion" might even be the T7 Set for mages. I saw a lot of movies which concerning this. I think Aethas wears a mask because it simply looks more evil. In a way he represents the Horde in the Kirin Tor. And members of the Horde should look evil :P --Cyrdaz (talk) 11:34, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

Stop that talk right now. Do not start this war again.--SWM2448 21:15, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

As intriguing as it is to guess if he's really someone in disguise (Anasterian! Kael'thas! Dath'remar! Dar'khan! Xavius! Hellscream!), it's probably just because it's cool. That this is the Tier Seven set is a reasonable assumption, can anyone confirm this?

"Evil" looks are no standard amongst all of the Horde. Depends on what you mean by it, really. Xavius, the Satyr Lord 16:55, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

Sandwichman2448 is right, we shouldn't discuss whether the horde looks evil or not and also the speculations about the Tier 7 Set don't fix with the topic. But because I had been the one who made up this theory: here my source. And now let's stop this ;) --Cyrdaz (talk) 21:43, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

It says "He is most likely Kael'thas" on the page. Anyone care to elaborate? Toran Wildpaw of the Frenzyheart (talk) 01:56, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

I think someone made an assumption because the last blood elf of The Six was Kael'Thas so it should be taken down for not being fact.Mack Attack (talk) 02:02, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

Not only is Kael dead though, he's missing a head. Plus, how would he have sneaked into Dalaran all the way from Sunwell Plateau? Toran Wildpaw of the Frenzyheart (talk) 02:04, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

The Lich King obviously raised him from the dead, anyway I hope nobody minds that I went ahead and changed that. -Don Quijote (Talk) 02:53, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

Lorewise, taking off someone's head tends to prevent reanimation, unless they're used in the creation of an abomination or something. I do think its odd that he wears a mask, as almost all npc's have their faces showing. Anyway, I'm surprised that Ragestorm hasn't anounced that this isn't a forum, so we should probably drop it before this discussion gets out of hand.Tweak the Whacked (talk) 04:50, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

Hey, I was just asking to make sure if it's something that should be there, and if it isn't then I or someone else could delete it. Toran Wildpaw of the Frenzyheart (talk) 19:10, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

Furthermore... wouldn't there be a nice big crystal sticking out of his chest creating quit the bump ;). Nah, I don't think he is in disguise. It probably just is to make him look cool and sinister (not evil just mysterious). That was what I mend with Fashion Statement ;).--Dehnus (talk) 20:09, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

It is quite the possibility that Rhonin understood Kael'Thas' plight, and he had to do what he had to do to save his people and let him back into the Six. Others might have worried that he was crazy and wouldn't have wanted him there, so they changed his name and covered his face As for the crystal -- Dont they have surgery/First aid in WoW? I just see how coencidental that the two's name are very similar; Aethas, Kael'thas - Sunreaver, Sunstrider (Ignoring the fact that most Bloodelven names have 'sun' in them) Perhaps we might just see a 'Remove Your Descuise' Quest sort of what Onyxia had.--Elofan (talk) 20:05, 15 December 2008

We cut off his head. It's hard to believe that he sprouted another one back. g0urra[T҂C] 08:23, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

"Magisters Terrace was only a set back!" Yeah I just had to put that in.. No way he's Kael though, Rhonin wouldn't forgive someone of the burning legion and no matter how pwng you are you can't re-attach your own head. CaiuNariz "Magister's Terrace was only a set back!"

He said Tempest Keep was a set-back, not Magister's Terrace. Big, furry, and insane (Have a conversation with the homocidal furry!) (Come and stalk me! ...No, wait, please don't.) 19:42, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Affilliation

We should probably put down that he's affilliated with the Sunreavers. Meneldir (talk) 15:19, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

Being member of the Six makes him neutral or with the Horde? --Mordecay (talk) 18:04, 19 March 2012 (UTC)

This was already heavily discussed on Khadgar. It's the same situation really. So i'd leave him Horde.

Okay then.--Mordecay (talk) 19:00, 19 March 2012 (UTC)

Letters dropped and Reaver added

Kaelthas Sunstriderreaver

Reave (The action of a Reaver) is: 1. To seize and carry off forcibly. 2. To deprive (one) of something; bereave.

It could just be a coincidence though.

I can honestly tell you now it IS coincidence.

When they say reaver, they mean the weapon, not the action itself. And honestly, I think Blizz didn't really even realize you could re-spell his name as Kael'thas. Toran Wildpaw of the Frenzyheart (talk) 03:26, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

*facepalm* I think it's been said enough times: it's merely a coincidence. If we start to interpret peoples' last name literally, we could probably find some strange names. For example, did Kael'thas walk long steps on the sun? Because that's what Sunstrider means. g0urra[T҂C] 07:51, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

The moment Blizzard reveals its Kael'thas with a fancy new head I will laugh in your face. TheAdamant (talk) 01:21, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

Oh I know it isn't; I've seen the face under that hood. And it won't be Kael'thas. g0urra[T҂C] 03:14, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

Tier 8

Can I add he is using the new mage tier 8? Pudim17 (talk - contr) 17:21, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

If you've got the citations for it and you aren't a speculation-crazy numb-skull who feels like saying every weird and twisted theory that comes to mind is true, I'd say it's a-ok. Toran Wildpaw of the Frenzyheart (talk) 20:13, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

It is not confirmed yet, since its from the NYI ulduar tier 8 models, but on Darion Morgraine's article, there is the line saying he is also using it. Pudim17 (talk - contr) 16:35, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

Member of the Six, how?

I'm wondering, the Blood Elves got expelled from Dalaran because of obvious reasons. Now, how exactly can someone become a member of the Six if he's expelled? Where's the logic in this? Oberscht (talk) 06:53, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

Council of Six != Dalaran.  [Letter of Introduction to Wyrmrest Temple] explicitly says that Aethas Sunreaver is a member of the Council of Six, so he is. --g0urra[T҂C] 09:17, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

Don't think about it too much. Blizz makes these kind of screw-ups every now and again. Big, furry, and insane (Have a conversation with the homocidal furry!) (Come and stalk me! ...No, wait, please don't.) 19:39, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

I don't remember dalaran kicking the blood elves out, just garithos kicking them out of the alliance. It's possible Aethas was a high elf member that never left even when he turned Blood. I don't see how this is a "screw up" on Blizzards part or even all that odd. Twas Brillig (talk) 16:40, October 11, 2009 (UTC)

Sarah Pine's canon vs In-game canon

She shared what was MEANT to happen and be shown in game, that Aethas witnessed us stealing the Divine Bell from Darnassus and that he was a 100% loyal Kirin Tor mage the whole time, but the fact is that it never happened or was indicated in-game or in any Warcraft-related media, leaving him a more ambiguous figure. I believe it should be stricken from the actual biography section and simply left in the trivia section. -User:Malcior, Aug 25 2016, 9:54am.

I don't think so. There is Kosak confirming that Aethas indeed looked the other way. There is also the thing with him shifting uncomfortably that hints at it. And the info from Pine is already detailed in the trivia section...? --Mordecay (talk) 14:30, 25 August 2016 (UTC)

There's the difference of intent. What Pine said is what was put in the game, it just wasn't available due to the event bugging out. It wasn't intentionally removed. Kosak liked the debate the bug created and left it ambiguous without ever retracting that event from happening. --Aquamonkeyeg (talk) 16:10, 25 August 2016 (UTC)