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| − | : ''For the book in [[The Sunwell Trilogy]], see [[Ghostlands (book)]]. |
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| − | |name=Ghostlands |
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| − | |races={{Race|Scourge }}<br />{{Race|Blood Elf}}<br />{{Race|Forsaken}}<br />{{Race|Forest Troll }}<br />{{Race|Night elf}}<br />{{RaceIconExt|Gnoll|Small}} [[Gnoll]]<br />{{Race|Murloc }}<br /> |
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| − | |level=9 - 21 |
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| − | |loc=Southern [[Quel'Thalas]] |
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| − | |affiliation=[[Scourge]] |
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| − | |minor= [[Tranquillien]], [[Deatholme]] |
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| + | What the heck? Original research much? - [[User:LucidFox|LucidFox]] ([[User talk:LucidFox|talk]]) 07:56, 2 December 2011 (UTC) |
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| − | '''Ghostlands''' is a part of the original [[Blackened Woods]]. It is a level 10-20 [[zone]] that was implemented in the [[Burning Crusade]] [[expansion]]. Today, this zone appears on the [[world map]] north of the [[Eastern Plaguelands]]. Ghostlands is also an alternate title for the entire Blackened Woods [[region]]<ref>{{ref book |author=Arthaus |title=[[Lands of Conflict]] |isbn=9781588469601 |pages=112}}</ref> from which [[Eversong Woods]] was later reclaimed. The current Ghostlands region borders [[Eversong Woods]] in the north, and is the location of the [[forest troll]] [[instance]] [[Zul'Aman]]. |
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| + | :Brute transfert of the real life [[wikipedia:Taiga|Taiga]] with no Warcraft source. |
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| − | Little is known of this shadowy region of [[Quel'Thalas]]. The [[blood elves]] applied the scorched earth policy to these woodlands, effectively giving the [[Scourge]] as pyrrhic a victory as possible. It is likely that vengeful phantoms of the battles with the Scourge and a majority of the [[undead]] remnants left over from the invasion of Quel'Thalas still linger here...as well as one of the most vile traitors to the elven people. |
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| + | :I would say deletion is in order |
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| + | :{{User:A'noob/sig}} 08:29, 2 December 2011 (UTC) |
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| + | ::its observational data from wow itself. if you look at all of the forest north of a certain point the trees are Coniferous, this is the definition of a boreal forest. |
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| − | == History == |
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| + | ::[[User:Seven44|Seven44]] ([[User talk:Seven44|talk]]) 08:39, 2 December 2011 (UTC) |
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| − | According to ''Lands of Conflict'', the high elves first landed in the Ghostlands (also known as the [[Blackened Woods]]), southwest of [[Silvermoon]] and north of [[Stratholme]]. Their fleet landed on the beaches of the kingdom men would later call [[Lordaeron]]. Forging inland, the high elves founded a settlement within the tranquil [[Tirisfal Glades]]. After a few years, many of them began to go mad. It was theorized that something evil slept beneath that particular part of the world, but the rumors were never proven to be true. The high elves packed up their encampment and moved northward towards another land rich with ley energies. |
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| + | :::Observed yes, but sadly this is not enough and only based on something taken in real life. |
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| − | == Geography == |
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| + | :::Wow does not follow the same pattern: killer whale with horns, intelligent raptors, etc.... |
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| − | === Maps and subregions === |
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| + | :::{{User:A'noob/sig}} 08:45, 2 December 2011 (UTC) |
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| − | [[Image:WorldMap-Ghostlands.jpg|thumb|left|300px|Ghostlands map]] |
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| + | what if I just renamed the whole article 'Forests of Azeroth', is that warcraftian enough for you? |
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| + | also im not completely ripping off the wikipedia article there's lots to write about that is specifically related to wow. [[User:Seven44|Seven44]] ([[User talk:Seven44|talk]]) 08:51, 2 December 2011 (UTC) |
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| − | ||[[Amani Catacombs]] • [[Amani Pass]] • [[Andilien Estate]] • [[An'daroth]] • [[An'owyn]] |
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| − | ||[[An'telas]] • [[Bleeding Ziggurat]] • [[Dawnstar Spire]] • [[The Dead Scar]] |
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| − | ||[[Deatholme]] • [[Elrendar Crossing]] • [[Elrendar River]] • [[Farstrider Enclave]] |
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| − | ||[[Goldenmist Village]] • [[Hatchet Hills]] • [[Howling Ziggurat]] • [[Isle of Tribulations]] |
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| − | ||[[Lake Elrendar]] • [[Sanctum of the Moon]] • [[Sanctum of the Sun]] |
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| − | ||[[Shalandis Isle]] • [[Suncrown Village]] • [[Sungraze Peak]] • [[Thalassian Pass]] |
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| − | ||[[Tower of the Damned]] • [[Tranquillien]] • [[Underlight Mines]] • [[Windrunner Spire]] |
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| − | ||[[Windrunner Village]] • [[Zeb'Nowa]] • [[Zeb'Sora]] • [[Zeb'Tela]] • [[Zul'Aman]] |
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| − | '''[[Warcraft III]]''' |
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| + | :What's your source for that it's "15°N to 70°N" of Azeroth? Why are they named "taiga" and "boreal forest"? Do you have some basis for that that is connected to Warcraft? It's just terms right from Wikipedia. --{{User:Gourra/Sig2}} 08:55, 2 December 2011 (UTC) |
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| − | [[Greenwood Pass]] (WC3) |
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| + | ::look at the model of Azeroth you can see from outland, if you applied degrees of longitude and latitude to the planet that is where the coniferous forests of Azeroth are located. [[User:Seven44|Seven44]] ([[User talk:Seven44|talk]]) 09:00, 2 December 2011 (UTC) |
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| − | | {{portal|Zul'Aman|raid}} || 70+ |
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| + | :::What makes it that geographically correct? Do you have any basis on what is the ABSOLUTE north and south? Again, there's no basis that it's actually called "taiga" or "boreal forest". --{{User:Gourra/Sig2}} 09:23, 2 December 2011 (UTC) |
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| − | [[Image:Tranquillien.jpg|thumb|Tranquillien]] |
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| + | :::Edit: I saw that you renamed it "Coniferious forest" (which I guess is a misspelling of "Coniferous forest"), based on [[wikipedia:Temperate coniferous forest|Temperate coniferous forest]]. Again, no basis. --{{User:Gourra/Sig2}} 09:25, 2 December 2011 (UTC) |
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| + | :Why are we even discussing? this article does not belong here |
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| − | === Travel hubs === |
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| + | :{{User:A'noob/sig}} 09:26, 2 December 2011 (UTC) |
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| − | ;{{Horde Icon Small}} [[Flight path]]s from [[Tranquillien]] |
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| − | * [[Silvermoon]], [[Eversong Woods]] |
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| − | * [[Light's Hope Chapel]], [[Eastern Plaguelands]] (Patch 2.3) |
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| − | * [[Hatchet Hills]], '''Ghostlands''' |
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| + | [[Smotts' Compass]] this proof that there are compasses in wow and a compass would not work without polarity of north and south, also the names of places speak for themselves, like NORTHrend and the SOUTH seas. its all very clear. [[User:Seven44|Seven44]] ([[User talk:Seven44|talk]]) 09:33, 2 December 2011 (UTC) |
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| − | ;{{Neutral Icon Small}} [[Flight path]]s from [[Hatchet Hills]] |
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| − | * {{Neutral Icon Small}} [[Light's Hope Chapel]], [[Eastern Plaguelands]] (servicing Zul'Aman for higher-level players; available in patch 2.3) |
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| − | * {{Neutral Icon Small}} [[Sun's Reach]], [[Isle of Quel'Danas]] (servicing Sunwell instances for higher-level players; available in patch 2.4)<ref name="acaciaizm.com">http://acaciaizm.com/?p=313#more-313</ref> |
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| − | * {{Horde Icon Small}} [[Tranquillien]], '''Ghostlands''' |
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| + | :I didn't say that there's a north and south, I'm questioning what you think some points of the planet are the south and north "pole". --{{User:Gourra/Sig2}} 09:35, 2 December 2011 (UTC) |
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| − | === Adjacent regions === |
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| − | | [[Eversong Woods]] || {{Horde Icon Small}} |
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| − | | 1 - 12 || North || Flight path and by foot |
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| − | | [[Eastern Plaguelands]] |
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| − | | {{Horde Icon Small}} {{Alliance Icon Small}} |
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| − | | 53 - 60 || South || Flight path (from Hatchet Hills, patch 2.3) and by foot (through [[File:instance portal white.png|instance portal|link=instance portal]] portal south of the [[Thalassian Pass]]) |
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| − | | [[Isle of Quel'Danas]] |
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| − | | {{Horde Icon Small}} {{Alliance Icon Small}} |
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| − | | 70 || Far to the north || Flight path (from Hatchet Hills, patch 2.4) <ref name="acaciaizm.com"/> |
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| + | Degrees of latitude and longitude arn't based upon magnetic poles (which change over time) they are based upon hemispheres which correspond to the rotational axis. There is no way you could argue that the top part of Azeroth isn't the Northern hemisphere. [[User:Seven44|Seven44]] ([[User talk:Seven44|talk]]) 09:40, 2 December 2011 (UTC) |
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| − | == Notable characters == |
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| − | [[Image:Tower of the Damned.jpg|thumb|Tower of the Damned]] |
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| + | :I didn't say magnetic poles, I meant geographical poles (which should be obvious to you, unless you want to make this even more aggravating). Latitude and longitude are based on an equator (based on the Wikipedia description: "latitude of a location on the Earth is the angular distance of that location south or north of the Equator.") There's no such thing described as an equator on Azeroth, and as such you cannot use latitude and longitude in Azeroth. What you're trying to do is putting a real life phenomenon onto a fantasy world, based on guesses and observations and no basis. --{{User:Gourra/Sig2}} 09:45, 2 December 2011 (UTC) |
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| − | {{main|Ghostlands NPCs}} |
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| + | many of the articles written on this site discuss wow as being observed from outside of the warcraft universe and for this reason employ terms and concepts that do not appear in warcraft, terms borrowed from our own universe. these are often terms and concepts never mentioned by Blizzard. The fact that Azeroth is a planet implies that it has an equator much in the same way that it is implied that humans in warcraft have a large intestine even though its not specifically stated. [[User:Seven44|Seven44]] ([[User talk:Seven44|talk]]) 09:59, 2 December 2011 (UTC) |
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| − | Ghostlands is home to several characters of note. At Tranquillien, [[Dame Auriferous]] and [[High Executor Mavren]] work together in the battle against the Scourge. At the Farstrider Enclave, [[Captain Helios]] and his rangers attempt to fight back the relentless attacks from the Amani trolls. And at the Sanctum of the Sun, [[Magister Kaendris]] sends bold adventurers into the heart of evil itself — [[Dar'Khan Drathir]]'s [[Tower of the Damned]], in the center of his fortress of [[Deatholme]]. |
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| + | :Terms are borrowed. And when they are, we make articles about it. This one in particular hasnt. Thats the end of it. [[User:Warthok|Warthok]] ([[User talk:Warthok|talk]]) 10:08, 2 December 2011 (UTC) |
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| − | {{main|Ghostlands quests}} |
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| + | http://www.wowpedia.org/Taiga_Bindings here is proof the term exists in WoW [[User:Seven44|Seven44]] ([[User talk:Seven44|talk]]) 10:27, 2 December 2011 (UTC) |
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| + | :Let's be silly! |
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| − | == Resources == |
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| + | :Where is the evidence that "Taiga" is not the name of someone? |
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| − | [[Image:Underlight Mines.jpg|thumb|Underlight Mines]] |
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| + | :When you don't know, don't assume too much |
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| + | :{{User:A'noob/sig}} 10:34, 2 December 2011 (UTC) |
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| + | == Deletion vote == |
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| + | '''Delete''' <!-- Add {{vote|Delete|~~ ~~|optional comment}} below (remove space between "~ ~")--> |
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| + | {{vote|Delete|sig={{User:Sandwichman2448/Sig}} 22:45, 2 December 2011 (UTC)||Nominated}} |
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| − | == Wild creatures == |
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| − | [[Image:Zeb'Nowa.jpg|thumb|Zeb'Nowa]] |
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| − | * [[Arcane Guardian]] |
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| − | *Ghostlands has one of the highest level-gaps between adjacent zones with its southern border to the [[Eastern Plaguelands]], a gap that jumps roughly 40 levels from 20 to 60. Another similar zone is [[Tirisfal Glades]], which borders the [[Western Plaguelands]] — a gap that jumps about the same level range, from 10 to 50. Once finished questing in the Ghostlands players can continue on by using the [[Orb of Translocation]] located in [[Silvermoon City]] in order to teleport to the [[Undercity]]. From the Undercity players have the option of traveling to [[Hillsbrad Foothills]] or taking the zeppelin to [[Orgrimmar]], where they can then proceed to [[Ashenvale]]. |
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| − | *Ghostlands was the only Burning Crusade zone that had a flight path connecting it to an original ''World of Warcraft'' zone ([[Eastern Plaguelands]]) until flight points were added to the [[Isle of Quel'Danas]] from [[Ironforge]] and [[Silvermoon City]]. |
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| − | *Ghostlands is often used by players wishing to bypass the [[Barrens]] whilst questing. See [[The Barrens#Avoiding the Barrens|Avoiding the Barrens]]. |
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| − | *[[Thalassian Pass]], connecting the Ghostlands to the Eastern Plaguelands, is the only way out of Quel'Thalas by land; all the other ways are by flight paths or teleportation. Notably, players trying to swim south by the shore into Eastern Plaguelands will find their way blocked by an invisible wall. This is because Quel'Thalas, like [[Azuremyst Isles]], actually exists on the [[Outland]] map, presumably to make it easier to block players without [[The Burning Crusade]]. Quel'Thalas overlaps the old Eastern Kingdoms region to the northeast of the Eastern Plaguelands, which is where players attempting the reverse trick (swimming into Quel'Thalas) will find themselves: swimming along the shore, appearing on the world map as passing right through the Ghostlands. |
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| − | A book called ''[[Ghostlands (book)|Ghostlands]]'' also exists. |
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Revision as of 22:45, 2 December 2011
Source
What the heck? Original research much? - LucidFox (talk) 07:56, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
- Brute transfert of the real life Taiga with no Warcraft source.
- I would say deletion is in order
Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (talk/contribz) 08:29, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
- Observed yes, but sadly this is not enough and only based on something taken in real life.
- Wow does not follow the same pattern: killer whale with horns, intelligent raptors, etc....
- Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (talk/contribz) 08:45, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
what if I just renamed the whole article 'Forests of Azeroth', is that warcraftian enough for you? also im not completely ripping off the wikipedia article there's lots to write about that is specifically related to wow. Seven44 (talk) 08:51, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
- What's your source for that it's "15°N to 70°N" of Azeroth? Why are they named "taiga" and "boreal forest"? Do you have some basis for that that is connected to Warcraft? It's just terms right from Wikipedia. --g0urra[T҂C] 08:55, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
- What makes it that geographically correct? Do you have any basis on what is the ABSOLUTE north and south? Again, there's no basis that it's actually called "taiga" or "boreal forest". --g0urra[T҂C] 09:23, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
- Edit: I saw that you renamed it "Coniferious forest" (which I guess is a misspelling of "Coniferous forest"), based on Temperate coniferous forest. Again, no basis. --g0urra[T҂C] 09:25, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
- Why are we even discussing? this article does not belong here
Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (talk/contribz) 09:26, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
[Smotts' Compass] this proof that there are compasses in wow and a compass would not work without polarity of north and south, also the names of places speak for themselves, like NORTHrend and the SOUTH seas. its all very clear. Seven44 (talk) 09:33, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
- I didn't say that there's a north and south, I'm questioning what you think some points of the planet are the south and north "pole". --g0urra[T҂C] 09:35, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
Degrees of latitude and longitude arn't based upon magnetic poles (which change over time) they are based upon hemispheres which correspond to the rotational axis. There is no way you could argue that the top part of Azeroth isn't the Northern hemisphere. Seven44 (talk) 09:40, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
- I didn't say magnetic poles, I meant geographical poles (which should be obvious to you, unless you want to make this even more aggravating). Latitude and longitude are based on an equator (based on the Wikipedia description: "latitude of a location on the Earth is the angular distance of that location south or north of the Equator.") There's no such thing described as an equator on Azeroth, and as such you cannot use latitude and longitude in Azeroth. What you're trying to do is putting a real life phenomenon onto a fantasy world, based on guesses and observations and no basis. --g0urra[T҂C] 09:45, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
many of the articles written on this site discuss wow as being observed from outside of the warcraft universe and for this reason employ terms and concepts that do not appear in warcraft, terms borrowed from our own universe. these are often terms and concepts never mentioned by Blizzard. The fact that Azeroth is a planet implies that it has an equator much in the same way that it is implied that humans in warcraft have a large intestine even though its not specifically stated. Seven44 (talk) 09:59, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
- Terms are borrowed. And when they are, we make articles about it. This one in particular hasnt. Thats the end of it. Warthok (talk) 10:08, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
http://www.wowpedia.org/Taiga_Bindings here is proof the term exists in WoW Seven44 (talk) 10:27, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
- Let's be silly!
- Where is the evidence that "Taiga" is not the name of someone?
- When you don't know, don't assume too much
- Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (talk/contribz) 10:34, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
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