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| − | As the move thing said, I simply moved it to make it more inclusive, in the off chance that Deathwing eventually takes an active part against both factions. Though it still could use a better name. /shrug --[[User:TheUltimate|TheUltimate]] ([[User talk:TheUltimate|talk]]) 01:34, July 6, 2010 (UTC) |
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| + | | name = Studies in Lethality |
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| − | :Just to be clear, the template did say to discuss it first, before moving. I edited the template to be a little more clearer. {{User:Coobra/Sig4}} 12:05, July 6, 2010 (UTC) |
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| − | ::I know, I didn't notice the template until after. Which was why I moved it back. Deepest apologizes.--[[User:TheUltimate|TheUltimate]] ([[User talk:TheUltimate|talk]]) 12:21, July 6, 2010 (UTC) |
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| − | :::No worries. {{User:Coobra/Sig4}} 12:30, July 6, 2010 (UTC) |
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| − | ::::Regardless of Deathwing's involvement or not, I still think "Cataclysm War" or "War of the Cataclysm" roll off the tongue more easily, in keeping with prior naming conventions. Somehow it's not enough of a total war to be the "Fourth War". [[User:Deepred|Deepred]] ([[User talk:Deepred|talk]]) 06:56, October 8, 2010 (UTC) |
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| − | :::::The Great Wars have, historically, been worldwide conflicts that may or may not be multisided, have involved conflict between the Alliance and Horde and other actors, and have also caused widespread destruction. I think the Fourth War is an apt title. [[User:Thio|Thio]] ([[User talk:Thio|talk]]) 21:40, 20 October 2010 (UTC) |
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| − | Curious: Would it be fine to drop (Cataclysm) from the title? It seems very unneeded as there are no other articles called Alliance-Horde War.--[[User:TheUltimate3|TheUltimate3]] ([[User talk:TheUltimate3|talk]]) 01:15, 31 October 2010 (UTC) |
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| + | | experience = 1750 |
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| + | | rewards = {{cost||14}} |
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| + | | reputation = +250 [[Undercity (faction)|Undercity]] |
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| + | | previous = {{quest|Trouble at Southshore}} |
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| + | | id = 28324 |
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| − | == |
+ | == Objectives == |
| + | Recover 250 Blight Samples. |
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| + | *Blight Sample taken (250) |
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| + | == Description == |
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| − | How much detail should the background of the war go into? The war had been brewing from events as early as Vanilla WoW, and a simple "Varian declared war in the Battle for the Undercity" doesn't seem like it goes into enough detail. However, we obviously can't detail everything that led up to war, as that goes as far back as the First War. What sort of limit should be set? -- [[User:Fojar|Fojar]]([[User talk:Fojar|talk]]) 07:58, July 6, 2010 (EST) |
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| + | We used a fairly potent strain of blight against the humans of [[Southshore]]. As you can see, it worked. The trouble with blight use, though, is that blight tends to stick around after it's served its purpose. |
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| − | :I threw together the scenario leading up to from Vanilla leading up to Cataclysm. (The vanilla BGs, how they were at peace until the Wrathgate), but the Cataclysm portion is still just a blurb. I think it's just going to stay like that until we actually know what happens.--[[User:TheUltimate|TheUltimate]] ([[User talk:TheUltimate|talk]]) 12:23, July 6, 2010 (UTC) |
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| + | What I need from you is to take this testing kit and get out into the field to get a lethality count from the light slimes that we've released into the area. Use the lethality analyzer on the blight slimes sweeping the slime pools. Come back to me when you have some solid data. |
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| − | == Possible Reasons why the Alliance was able to expand into Southern Barrens== |
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| + | == Rewards == |
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| − | Lieutenant Alverold Exploratory Fleet could have finished their scouting mission and returned at the same time as a Stormwind reinforcements and supplies fleet came to the barrens and add the forces Tiragarde Keep and with the Horde having only a little presence in the Southern Barrens it probably was not to hard to claim part of the southern Barrens. These are just ideas. [[User:Rimor Conscientia|Rimor Conscientia]] ([[User talk:Rimor Conscientia|talk]]) 17:17, July 6, 2010 (UTC) |
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| + | You will receive: {{cost||14}} |
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+ | == Progress == |
| + | We need Southshore move in ready! |
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| + | == Completion == |
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| − | Is King Magni dead? Thats my question. [[User:Rimor Conscientia|Rimor Conscientia]] ([[User talk:Rimor Conscientia|talk]]) 05:18, July 7, 2010 (UTC) |
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| + | Oh my. 250? This thing doesn't go past 250. How are you still standing? You should be a puddle of goo by now. [[Sylvanas Windrunner|Sylvanas]] will be most displeased with this information. There might be some things we can do to reduce the lethality levels of the area by a few decades, but that still leaves us out by about a hundred or so years. |
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| − | :He was turned into a statue, that's about as dead as someone can get. If you want to rationalize it, Blizzard probably needed to kill off an Alliance faction leader to match the death of Cairne.[[User:AhotahThunderhorn|AhotahThunderhorn]] ([[User talk:AhotahThunderhorn|talk]]) 05:25, July 7, 2010 (UTC) |
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| − | ::Actually, being turned into a statue seems rather explicitly NOT dead. There are, of course, other complications involved, but unlike Cairne there's the possibility (and a very likely one, I think) that he will eventually get better. -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] ([[User talk:Dark T Zeratul|talk]]) 06:52, July 9, 2010 (UTC) |
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| − | :::Just like Zeratul said, he's not dead. He was petrified and consolidated into the Ironforge's Diamond Core. That means that if that [[Brann Bronzebeard|fat old dwarf]] will actually do his homework about the titan tablets, or through some shamanistic/druidic magic, Magni might return;D {{User:Encaitar/Signature}} 20:57, 6 January 2011 (UTC) |
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| + | == Notes == |
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| − | == Will this war also take place in Northrend and Outland? == |
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| + | Once you accept this quest, you will get a new heads-up display, an analogue meter reader that shows the level of anger from the Blight Slime. |
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| − | Will there be fighting in Northrend and Outland? Or quests related to the war? [[User:Rimor Conscientia|Rimor Conscientia]] ([[User talk:Rimor Conscientia|talk]]) 17:13, July 7, 2010 (UTC) |
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| − | :As far as I know. This will only be Kalimdor and Eastern Kingdoms. I may be wrong. [[User:Gamerd|Gamerd]] ([[User talk:Gamerd|talk]]) 23:56, July 7, 2010 (UTC) |
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| − | ::They said at Blizzcon they're not making any changes to Outland or Northrend beyond things like Archeology nodes and other miscellaneous changes due to game mechanic updates. -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] ([[User talk:Dark T Zeratul|talk]]) 07:02, July 9, 2010 (UTC) |
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| − | == Have three years passed in game in World of Warcraft since Wrath of the Lich King? == |
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| − | I was wondering have three years really passed lore wise because I thought the events of World of Warcraft Cataclysm happened like a year after WOTLK in the game world of Azeroth. Because the article says three years have passed since Alliance and Horde forces first arrive on Northrend. Just wondering. [[User:Rimor Conscientia|Rimor Conscientia]] ([[User talk:Rimor Conscientia|talk]]) 23:04, July 19, 2010 (UTC) |
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| − | :Yes. It's set 10 years after the [[Battle of Mount Hyjal]] and 5 years after classic WoW, which means it's set 3 years after the start of Wrath of the Lich King. [[User:WoWWiki-Suzaku|WoWWiki-Suzaku]] ([[User talk:WoWWiki-Suzaku|talk]]) 07:37, July 20, 2010 (UTC) |
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| + | As you take samples from the [[Blight Slime]], they will progressively get angry at you. Initialy they are {{reputation|neutral}} to you. As you progress in this quest, they become {{reputation|unfriendly}} and the following warnings are given. Finally, near completion, they are {{reputation|hostile}} to you and attack you on sight. |
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| − | ==Tandred Proudmoore== |
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| + | * {{text|yellow|The Blight Slimes are beginning to react negatively towards your prodding.}} |
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| − | Is Tandred Proudmoore really a commander for the Alliance forces. Correct me if I am wrong, but he has not appeared in-game, and neither the fleet of Kul Tiras. I the previous statement is right, I think he shouldn't be listed a a commander for the Alliance. [[User:Overlord Divine|Overlord Divine]] ([[User talk:Overlord Divine|talk]]) 17:47, October 1, 2010 (UTC) |
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| + | * {{text|yellow|The Blight Slimes are getting ANGRY!}} |
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| − | :Well, Baradin's Warden have the tabard of Kul Tiras, so it's assumed that the Grand Admiral as a hand in some way in the war. [[User:Guyomeprime|Guyomeprime]] ([[User talk:Guyomeprime|talk]]) 22:29, October 7, 2010 (UTC) |
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| + | * {{text|yellow|The Blight Slimes want your blood!}} |
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| − | ::Ok. That i didn't know of. So perhaps you are right. Anyway, thanks for making it clear.[[User:Overlord Divine|Overlord Divine]] ([[User talk:Overlord Divine|talk]]) 09:09, October 8, 2010 (UTC) |
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| + | ** At this point, you will be offered the quest [[quest:Angry Scrubbing Bubbles]], and the [[Angry Blight Slimes]] will become attackable. |
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| − | :::An [http://worldofwarcraft.judgehype.com/images.php?img=162801 earlyish beta pic] shows them in Kul Tiras tabards. I'm not sure if it's still the same with the latest build. [[User:Deepred|Deepred]] ([[User talk:Deepred|talk]]) 05:21, 24 October 2010 (UTC) |
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| − | ::::I have also reacently red on the Kul Tiras article that Tol Barad was claimed by them after the Second War, so that makes sense for the Baradin Watchers to have the Kul Tiras tabards.[[User:Overlord Divine|Overlord Divine]] ([[User talk:Overlord Divine|talk]]) 15:15, October 8, 2010 (UTC) |
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| + | == Quest progression == |
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| − | ==Five years?== |
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| + | {{Warchief's Command: Hillsbrad Foothills!}} |
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| + | == Patch changes == |
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| − | Why is it stated "Five years after the Battle for Mount Hyjal, the fragile truce between the Horde and Alliance had all but evaporated" in the article, when in the intro video of vanilla WoW it is stated "four years have passed since.."? [[User:Guyomeprime|Guyomeprime]] ([[User talk:Guyomeprime|talk]]) 02:11, October 6, 2010 (UTC) |
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| + | * {{Patch 4.0.3a|note=Added.}} |
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| − | I noticed that Galen-controlled Stromgarde is one of the combatants in this war, while I know that [[Galen Trollbane]] is now a member of the Forsaken I have heard nothing of a Horde-Alliance battle over Stromgarde. So this someone's guess work or will the Forsaken claim apart of the Stromgarde? --[[User:Sairez|Sairez]] ([[User talk:Sairez|talk]]) 03:21, 21 October 2010 (UTC) |
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| − | :Someone decided it would be a good idea to put every faction even loosely associated with the Horde or Alliance in the combatants section, even when they're completely uninvolved. I'm not really sure what the logic was in that. -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] ([[User talk:Dark T Zeratul|talk]]) 01:16, 31 October 2010 (UTC) |
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| − | ::I think that Sairez actually meant why is Galen listed under the Alliance, and not the Horde, since as Undead Forsaken he should be listed as Horde Commander.{{User:Encaitar/Signature}} 14:39, 7 January 2011 (UTC) |
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| − | :::Galen is listed as a Horde commander and I was talking about seeing Galen-controlled Stromgarde as one the Horde forces. --[[User:Sairez|Sairez]] ([[User talk:Sairez|talk]]) 21:50, 7 January 2011 (UTC) |
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| − | ::::But Stromgarde itself isn't even really part of either side anymore; it's been controlled by the Syndicate since Vanilla. And even if you're talking about the kingdom, Galen ceased to control it when he was killed. -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] ([[User talk:Dark T Zeratul|talk]]) 21:52, 7 January 2011 (UTC) |
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| − | == Malfurion is not an Alliance commander == |
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| − | Malfurion is neutral in Cataclysm. Wherever Horde chars meet him he's either neutral(Darn) or friendly (darkshore and hyjal). He doesn't give orders to kill anything that has anything to do with the Horde and is a member of Cenarion Circle. The fact that he's Tyrande's husband doesn't change anything. He's not an Alliance Commander in this War therefore he shouldn't be listed. {{User:Encaitar/Signature}} 17:48, 16 January 2011 (UTC) |
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| − | :As he should be. Furion was in the Emerald Nightmare when the night elves joined the Alliance. He has no real alliegance to them beyond being a night elf, and not every night elf is in the Alliance (see: Cenarion Circle). [[User:Reign|Reign]] ([[User talk:Reign|talk]]) 18:02, 16 January 2011 (UTC) |
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| − | ::Exactly aswell as the fact that Hammuul Runetotem is not listed as the Horde Commander either, evethough he's a Tauren, and actually one being marked with Thunderbluff tag. Yet he's more in Cenarion Circle so hopefully [[User:Thebardinblack|Thebardinblack]] will stop adding Malfurion to the page:P {{User:Encaitar/Signature}} 18:12, 16 January 2011 (UTC) |
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| − | ==Camp Taurajo wasn't a massacre== |
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| − | Hi, I think that Ultimaton100’s edits to this page are biased and exaggerated. It went from: |
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| − | “In the Southern Barrens [[Alliance]] forces have invaded the eastern lands while the [[Horde]] has mainatined control of the west. The Alliance has constructed a new military outpost to try to solidify their control of their new territory while the Horde has done the same to prevent further Alliance expansion. The central region between the two forts has become a war zone as the factions fight for control. The Alliance launched an attack on the peaceful village of [[Camp Taurajo]], which ended in some civilian casualties. This act of perceived cruelty by the Alliance has stirred the Horde and bolstered their resolve. The Horde has begun efforts to drive the Alliance back as a result. The new [[Warlord Bloodhilt|Horde general]] made an example of [[General Hawthorne]] by assassinating him on the streets of the [[Battlescar]]. In the initial Horde counter-attack, [[Gann Stonespire]] leads an angry mob of Horde civilians to raid the dwarven digsites in [[Bael Modan]]. These raids led to the death [[Marley Twinbraid]], son of [[General Twinbraid]]. The Horde also manages to blow up the dwarven fortress known as [[Bael'dun Keep]]. General Twinbraid finds the corpse of [[Weezil Slipshadow]] in the ruins of Bael'dun Keep and thinks it must have been the goblin workers in [[Frazzlecraz Motherlode]] who were responsible for the destruction at Bael Modan. He sends Alliance adventurers to kill every goblin miner they can find in the mine..” |
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| − | In the Southern Barrens [[Alliance]] forces have invaded the eastern lands while the [[Horde]] has mainatined control of the west. The Alliance has constructed a new military outpost to try to solidify their control of their new territory while the Horde has done the same to prevent further Alliance expansion. The central region between the two forts has become a war zone as the factions fight for control. The Alliance launched an attack on the peaceful village of [[Camp Taurajo]], which ended in a massacre. This act of cruelty by the Alliance has bolstered Horde resolve. The Horde has begun to drive the Alliance back as a result. The new [[Warlord Bloodhilt|Horde general]] made an example of [[General Hawthorne]], the general responsible for the Taurajo Massacre, by sending adventurers to ambush and kill him. In the initial Horde counter-attack, the Horde was able to destroy Bael Modan.” |
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| − | It is an assumption, not a fact, that Hawthorne’s men did not obey his orders. Many of the Horde NPCs in Taurajo did manage to escape to Camp Una'fe. He says that he ordered it during the attack so he had to be there as the actual attack was occurring. And seeing as Hawthorne’s quest [[Clap’em in Irons]] imply that he’s a hardass who doesn’t tolerate insubordination, why would he permit it in an actual military operation? If the Alliance allowed civilians to escape, I would hardly call it a massacre. |
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| − | Also, I don't see why he removed the other things like General Twinbraid's lash out at the goblins. Or Gann Stonespires raids on the dwarven digsites. |
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| − | I think you should undo his edits. |
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| − | ([[User:Sports72Xtrm|Sports72Xtrm]] ([[User talk:Sports72Xtrm|talk]]) 08:02, 22 March 2011 (UTC)) |
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| − | == The Great Merge: A Broke world, breaking in war == |
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| − | Well I see many affiliated or related conflicts since the start of the second arc of the [[comic]]. |
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| − | May I have to list them and other preludes for the organization of the new article:<br/> |
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| − | Preludes: |
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| − | Initial Alliance-Horde tensions and "[[Could War]]"Immeasurably |
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| − | [[Twilight's Hammer Insurgency]] - Is the first prelude to this all about ([[New Council of Tirisfal]] and allies VS [[Twilight's Hammer clan]])<br/> |
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| − | [[Battle for the Undercity]] and Alliance-Horde de jure in war<br/> |
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| − | [[War agaisnt the Nightmare]]<br/> |
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| − | The Conflict is imminent: |
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| − | [[Elemental Unrest]]<br/> |
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| − | [[The Shattering: Prelude to the Cataclysm]]<br/> |
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| − | Shattering: A world crying in apocalypse and blood...: |
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| − | Alliance-Horde War |
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| − | *[[Alliance-Horde War in Lordaeron]] |
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| − | **[[Invasion of Gilneas]] |
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| − | [[Elemental War]]<br/> |
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| − | This lists what the article have to describe. Well it is immeasurably BIG... So to don't have a immense article with I propose:<br/> |
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| − | 1 - Put a "complementar" template for this article, relating to [[Elemental War]] and break up [[Alliance-Horde War in Lordaeron]] (as Lordaeron turn into "Lordae", probably the major place of the war, due to the number of conflicts and factions involved)) to short it.<br/> |
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| − | 2 - Improve "[[Elemental War]]" and create other lacking articles. (I forgott the rest... I have to go to bed, may I finish to state here later...) [[User:Gabrirt|Gabrirt]] ([[User talk:Gabrirt|talk]]) 06:44, 21 May 2011 (UTC) |
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| − | ==Thoughts== |
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| − | Some comments about the article? ([[User:Gabrirt|Gabrirt]] ([[User talk:Gabrirt|talk]]) 00:04, October 16, 2010 (UTC)) |
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| − | Where is the soruce on this that it is called 'War in Cataclysm'? [[User:Gorvar|Gorvar]] ([[User talk:Gorvar|talk]]) 12:47, October 16, 2010 (UTC) |
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| − | What is the difference between this and the elemental invasion article? [[user:Saberd|Saberd of The Shattered Sun]] ('''[[User talk:Saberd|talk]]''') 17:47, October 16, 2010 (UTC) |
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| − | :This covers the "Deathwing and his minions" vs "Horde, Alliance and co." conflict in Cataclysm, while elemental invasion is only the pre-world cataclysm events.[[User:Overlord Divine|Overlord Divine]] ([[User talk:Overlord Divine|talk]]) 18:17, October 16, 2010 (UTC) |
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| − | And it'll probably need a better name. I moved it to Elemental War, after the Elemental Invasion and the general fact that the elements play a large role in pretty much everything.--[[User:TheUltimate|TheUltimate]] ([[User talk:TheUltimate|talk]]) 18:24, October 16, 2010 (UTC) |
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| − | == Affiliated wars == |
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| − | The [[Elemental War|Alliance-Horde war]] isn't a war inside this one? Shoud it be moved to here? |
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| − | After may I'm underestimating the access, but this article is few accessed or it's just a bad impression? ([[User:Gabrirt|Gabrirt]] ([[User talk:Gabrirt|talk]]) 00:48, 12 March 2011 (UTC)) |
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| − | :I believe that there should not be two article for what is called Elemental War and Alliance-Horde War. |
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| − | :Beside, I don't feel the Elemental Unrest is a part of this war but more an introduction event. |
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| − | :In one word: '''Merge'''! |
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| − | :{{User:A'noob/sig}} 13:08, 14 March 2011 (UTC) |
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| − | == Merged. == |
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| − | I did my best to merge this with Alliance-Horde war. Change to the name to Cataclysm War and we should be fine for now. [[Image:IconSmall ForestTroll Male.gif]][[Image:IconSmall IceTroll Male.gif]] '''{{qtt|[[User:MoneygruberTheGoblin|<span style="color:#1BC937; cursor:help" title="MoneygruberTheGoblin">MoneygruberTheGoblin</span>]]|Chieftain of the Gentleman Tribe}}'''([[User talk:MoneygruberTheGoblin|talk]] [[Special:Contributions/MoneygruberTheGoblin|contribs]])[[Image:IconSmall SandTroll Male.gif]][[Image:IconSmall DarkTroll Male.gif]] 22:18, 26 September 2011 (UTC) |
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| − | ==Naming== |
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| − | ===Suggestion=== |
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| − | {{Proposal}} |
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| − | ;Cataclysm War |
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| − | ;War against Deathwing |
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| − | {{Vote|Yes|[[Image:inv_helmet_44.png|22px]][[Image:inv_helmet_119.png|22px]] '''{{qtt|[[User:MoneygruberTheGoblin|<span style="color:#0e5c84; cursor:help" title="MoneygruberTheGoblin">MoneygruberTheGoblin</span>]]|Chieftain of the Gentleman Tribe}}'''([[User talk:MoneygruberTheGoblin|talk]] [[Special:Contributions/MoneygruberTheGoblin|contribs]]) 06:30, 29 October 2011 (UTC)}} |
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| − | {{Vote|Yes|--[[User:LemonBaby|LemonBaby]] ([[User talk:LemonBaby|talk]]) 12:49, 1 November 2011 (UTC)|Same way as War against the Lich King since the article is now focused on the Deathwing & elementals war}} |
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| − | {{Vote|Yes|{{User:A'noob/sig}} 12:50, 1 November 2011 (UTC)}} |
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| − | {{Vote|Yes|--[[User:Ashbear160|Ashbear160]] ([[User talk:Ashbear160|talk]]) 13:01, 1 November 2011 (UTC)}} |
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| − | ;Cataclysm Wars |
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| − | Send forth your suggestion for this article name. |
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| − | {{User:A'noob/sig}} 12:00, 22 October 2011 (UTC) |
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| − | :The contents of this article, is not the Elemental wars listed on the introduction of this article, rather it's a list of event that happen during the cataclysm. |
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| − | :This article actually lists 2 different wars, the Alliance-Horde War started in the Battle of Undercity, and the Old God-Defenders of Azeroth War, so i also think we should make a new article just for the Alliance-Horde War that started in the Battle of Undercity, trough Cataclysm and Mists of Pandaria, till it's end in the undefined future.--[[User:Ashbear160|Ashbear160]] ([[User talk:Ashbear160|talk]]) 13:01, 1 November 2011 (UTC) |
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| − | ==New approach== |
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| − | I put all the Alliance-Horde related conflicts to the [[Alliance-Horde War]] and removed the Zandalari incident. So now the page describes the conflict between Deathwing, his minions and the Defenders of Azeroth. Since the War during Wrath of the Lich King was called "War against the Lich King" I suggest to rename this page "War against Deathwing". Is there still a need for a seperate page called "Cataclysm events/storyline/War/Wars"? We could still create one for each expansion. Like a Vanilla, BC and Wrath events/storyline page. --[[User:LemonBaby|LemonBaby]] ([[User talk:LemonBaby|talk]]) 08:31, 2 November 2011 (UTC) |
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| − | :Agreed for the name, I add it in the suggestion just up there. |
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| − | :As for an expansion storyline article, that would be nice, but not too expanded maybe or else it would be a double use with the article it cites. |
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| − | :{{User:A'noob/sig}} 09:01, 2 November 2011 (UTC) |
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| − | Is there realy a need for the whole command structure of the Alliance and the Horde? I don't want to start an edit war, but when someone wants to read about the Horde commend structure for example he should do that on the Horde page. Listening [[Gobber]] or [[Knight-Lord Bloodvalor]] is kind of ridiculous.--[[User:LemonBaby|LemonBaby]] ([[User talk:LemonBaby|talk]]) 20:40, 3 November 2011 (UTC) |
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| − | :Agreed, we just need those that are the leaders, and those that actually battle old god forces in the Cataclysm expansion.--[[User:Ashbear160|Ashbear160]] ([[User talk:Ashbear160|talk]]) 21:20, 3 November 2011 (UTC) |
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| − | ===Commanders=== |
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| − | The following characters don't command anything, thats why they were removed: |
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| − | *Malorne |
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| − | *Broll Bearmantle <- has only a cameo as a sidekick |
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| − | *Seer Galekk <- only a member of the earthen ring |
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| − | *Earthmender Narvra |
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| − | *Derth Firesinger |
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| − | *Felora Firewreath |
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| − | *Aggra <- She is only Thralls mate and not a commander during the war |
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| − | *Erunak Stonespeaker |
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| − | *Farseer Tooranu |
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| − | *Caretaker Movra |
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| − | *Seer Kormo |
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| − | *The whole earth giants of therazene aren't commanders |
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| − | *Duke Hydraxis <- He doesn't even appear in game anymore! |
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| − | *Onyxia <- The good girl is a dead abomination unable to speak and was reanimated for 3minutes before we killed her again. Why is she a commander during that war? |
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| − | *Ultraxion <- A powerful creation that has nothing to say |
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| − | *Morchok <- A "soldier" not a commander |
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| − | *Iso'rath <- making nightmares and eating people... super commander |
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| − | *Erudax <- one of the greatest lieutenants of Deathwing.. but only a lieutenant. |
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| − | *Avatar of Soggoth <- Alive for 10minutes? And only the avatar. It's like saying the avatar of Sargeras is a leader of the BL |
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| − | *Hydrius <- hovering around for one quest doesn't make him a commander |
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| − | *Skullcrusher the Mountain <- Just a weapon with no brain |
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| − | *Hagara the Stormbinder <- loyal to the Twilights Hammer Clan but not one of their leaders |
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| − | *Asira Dawnslayer <- she is a assasin working for the Cult. Not a commander |
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| − | Unless there are arguments to reinclude them, I will remove them.--[[User:LemonBaby|LemonBaby]] ([[User talk:LemonBaby|talk]]) 13:26, 4 November 2011 (UTC) |
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| − | ===My response to comanders=== |
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| − | *Iso'rath he is a commander of the old gods and a huge tentacle monster |
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| − | *Ultraxion is one of the last twilight dragons and the strongest then technically that makes him a commander |
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| − | *Avatar of Soggoth because Soggoth is sealed and the avatar is the only representation of him in the azzeroth and that makes him a commander |
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| − | *Onyxia like her mother she's undead but her mother can reproduce and so she can and she is the daughter of deathwing and that makes her a commander |
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| − | *General Grimaxe is the leader of the twilight hammer's dark iron dwarfs |
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| − | *Aggra is kinda like secound in comand plus i didn't put her there but she's still important |
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| − | For Lemon Baby [[User:Ultimatex|Ultimatex]] |
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| − | Please provide a source for follwoing statements (questtext or otherwise): |
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| − | *Iso'rath he is a commander of the old gods <- beeing huge doesn't mean he is intelligent. Prove that he commands anyone) |
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| − | *Onyxia can reproduce. Onyxia doesn't command anyone. She is alive again for 3minutes. You can't say she is a commander |
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| − | *Aggra is kinda like secound in comand |
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| − | *Ultraxion <- beeing strong doesn't make him a commander. He is a puppet. |
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| − | *Also decide: Avatar of Soggoth or Soggoth. Can't be both. |
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| − | Keep in mind: Beeing important lore character doesn't mean that you can act as a commander on the battlefield. That in mind: Malorne runs around and fought some elementals. He is important. But he doesn't lead. And thats what this section should be about.--[[User:LemonBaby|LemonBaby]] ([[User talk:LemonBaby|talk]]) 16:21, 4 November 2011 (UTC) |
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| − | ===Cairne Bloodhoof, Magni Bronzebeard=== |
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| − | Should we include them both die should we. |
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| − | :No, they died before the War even startet. They are not part of the war.--[[User:LemonBaby|LemonBaby]] ([[User talk:LemonBaby|talk]]) 16:21, 4 November 2011 (UTC) |
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| − | ::Actually. Cairne combated [[Gahz'rilla]] and [[Prince Sarsarun]]. [[Image:inv_helmet_44.png|22px]][[Image:inv_helmet_119.png|22px]] '''{{qtt|[[User:MoneygruberTheGoblin|<span style="color:#0e5c84; cursor:help" title="MoneygruberTheGoblin">MoneygruberTheGoblin</span>]]|Chieftain of the Gentleman Tribe}}'''([[User talk:MoneygruberTheGoblin|talk]] [[Special:Contributions/MoneygruberTheGoblin|contribs]]) 18:51, 4 November 2011 (UTC) |
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| − | ===Soggoth=== |
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| − | Just so it's here: Soggoth is dead. In [[Quest:The Battle for Darkshore]] the Twilight's Hammer is said to have "only managed to resurrect but a remnant of dread Soggoth," which is the [[Avatar of Soggoth]]. So: Soggoth himself is dead, and his avatar only appears at the very end of the quest chain and is promptly killed. So no, Soggoth shouldn't be listed as a commander, because he was never in charge of anything; it was all the Twilight's Hammer's doing. -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] ([[User talk:Dark T Zeratul|talk]]) 20:24, 4 November 2011 (UTC) |
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| − | ===Removing Commanders=== |
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| − | I'm going to remove any commanders that don't have any connection to the war against the old god minions, since someone deleted my earlier work i'll post the list here with reasons: |
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| − | *AvH conflict iss not part of the elemental wars |
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| − | **{{npc||Halford Wyrmbane}} |
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| − | **{{npc||Commander Arrington}} |
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| − | **{{npc||General Hawthorne}} |
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| − | **{{npc||Thassarian}} |
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| − | **{{npc||Liam Greymane||Prince Liam Greymane}} |
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| − | **{{npc||Darius Crowley||Lord Darius Crowley}} |
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| − | **{{npc||Lorna Crowley}} |
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| − | **{{npc||High Warlord Cromush}} |
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| − | **{{npc||Overlord Krom'gar}} |
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| − | **{{npc||Warlord Gar'dul}} |
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| − | **{{npc||Drek'Thar}} |
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| − | **Fallen Prince {{npc||Galen Trollbane}} |
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| − | **{{npc||Dark Ranger Thyala}}† |
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| − | **{{npc||Koltira Deathweaver}} |
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| − | **{{npc||Forward Commander Onslaught}}† |
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| − | **{{npc||High Executor Crenshaw}} |
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| − | *Council of the 3 hammers is already a leader no need to repost it's members(it only increasse the list needlessly) |
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| − | **{{npc||Muradin Bronzebeard}} |
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| − | **{{npc||Falstad Wildhammer}} |
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| − | **{{npc||Moira Thaurissan||Queen-Regent Moira Thaurissan}} |
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| − | *Useless repetition |
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| − | **{{npc||Hamuul Runetotem}} |
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| − | *Participant but not a commander |
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| − | **{{npc||Broll Bearmantle}} |
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| − | **{{npc||Aggra}} |
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| − | **{{NPC||Onyxia}} |
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| − | **{{NPC||Ultraxion}} |
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| − | **{{NPC||Ozumat}} |
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| − | **{{npc||Malorne}} |
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| − | *Moving the following because they took the position after their death |
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| − | **{{npc||Cho'gall}} |
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| − | **{{npc||Cairne Bloodhoof}} |
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| − | **{{npc||Magni Bronzebeard||King Magni Bronzebeard}} |
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| − | *Moving him because he's subservient to the Skywall |
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| − | **{{npc||Dark Pharaoh Tekahn}} |
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| − | *Moving Alexstraza and these because she doesn't rule over all the defenders |
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| − | **{{npc||Alexstrasza}} |
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| − | **{{npc||Korialstrasz}} |
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| − | **{{NPC||Calen}} |
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| − | *Being of the same race doesn't say she is servant to azshara |
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| − | **{{npc||Zar'jira}} |
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| − | *Adding the stone lords because they are therazane commanders |
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| − | :Any problems say here--[[User:Ashbear160|Ashbear160]] ([[User talk:Ashbear160|talk]]) 20:37, 4 November 2011 (UTC) |
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| − | ::The Neferset are still a force in and of themselves, so Tekahn should still be listed. Alexstrasza may not directly command every single red dragon, but seems to do a fair bit of leading; enough that she should be listed. I'm not entirely sure what you're trying to say about Cho'gall, but he was leading the Twilight's Hammer for most of the major events of the war until his death, so he should definitely be included. I'm also leaning towards removing Nefarian, because he wasn't so much leading anything as he was sitting in Blackrock Mountain continuing his experiments. I'm also thinking about removing the "Old Gods" header and putting Deathwing at the top, since the Old Gods themselves never make an appearance and everyone else is, ultimately, subservient to Deathwing to some degree. -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] ([[User talk:Dark T Zeratul|talk]]) 20:43, 4 November 2011 (UTC) |
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| − | :::Actually can we reason with [[Alexstrasza]] being the Dragon Queen she rules over [[Ysera]], [[Kalecgos]], and [[Nozdormu]]?[[Image:inv_helmet_44.png|22px]][[Image:inv_helmet_119.png|22px]] '''{{qtt|[[User:MoneygruberTheGoblin|<span style="color:#0e5c84; cursor:help" title="MoneygruberTheGoblin">MoneygruberTheGoblin</span>]]|Chieftain of the Gentleman Tribe}}'''([[User talk:MoneygruberTheGoblin|talk]] [[Special:Contributions/MoneygruberTheGoblin|contribs]]) 20:42, 4 November 2011 (UTC) |
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| − | ::::Dark most of those i'm just moving around... and yeah she is the dragonqueen we can work with that.--[[User:Ashbear160|Ashbear160]] ([[User talk:Ashbear160|talk]]) 20:50, 4 November 2011 (UTC) |
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| − | == War against the Zandalari == |
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| − | Should we make a separate article for the war fought against the troll empires during Cataclysm? [[Image:inv_helmet_44.png|22px]][[Image:inv_helmet_119.png|22px]] '''{{qtt|[[User:MoneygruberTheGoblin|<span style="color:#0e5c84; cursor:help" title="MoneygruberTheGoblin">MoneygruberTheGoblin</span>]]|Chieftain of the Gentleman Tribe}}'''([[User talk:MoneygruberTheGoblin|talk]] [[Special:Contributions/MoneygruberTheGoblin|contribs]]) 19:18, 4 November 2011 (UTC) |
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| − | :Yes. -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] ([[User talk:Dark T Zeratul|talk]]) 19:22, 4 November 2011 (UTC) |
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| − | ::That was easy. [[Image:inv_helmet_44.png|22px]][[Image:inv_helmet_119.png|22px]] '''{{qtt|[[User:MoneygruberTheGoblin|<span style="color:#0e5c84; cursor:help" title="MoneygruberTheGoblin">MoneygruberTheGoblin</span>]]|Chieftain of the Gentleman Tribe}}'''([[User talk:MoneygruberTheGoblin|talk]] [[Special:Contributions/MoneygruberTheGoblin|contribs]]) 19:24, 4 November 2011 (UTC) |
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| − | ==Defenders of Azeroth== |
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| − | I think we should fuse the alliance and horde sections into the defenders of azeroth section, because when it came to the old gods(which this article is about) they were a united force(also see if everything doesn't get squished by the ginormous infobox)--[[User:Ashbear160|Ashbear160]] ([[User talk:Ashbear160|talk]]) 20:48, 4 November 2011 (UTC) |
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| − | :I think it's for the best that we do what's in the Outland war article. We put Horde and Alliance into one section but keep it very well distinguished they never worked together. [[Image:inv_helmet_44.png|22px]][[Image:inv_helmet_119.png|22px]] '''{{qtt|[[User:MoneygruberTheGoblin|<span style="color:#0e5c84; cursor:help" title="MoneygruberTheGoblin">MoneygruberTheGoblin</span>]]|Chieftain of the Gentleman Tribe}}'''([[User talk:MoneygruberTheGoblin|talk]] [[Special:Contributions/MoneygruberTheGoblin|contribs]]) 20:55, 4 November 2011 (UTC) |
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| − | ::OK but we don't really need to list every faction leader and every nation just those that are actual participants of this war--[[User:Ashbear160|Ashbear160]] ([[User talk:Ashbear160|talk]]) 20:58, 4 November 2011 (UTC) |
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| − | ::Horde means the Horde. We shouldn't need to specify their nations. I'll take care of it real quick. [[Image:inv_helmet_44.png|22px]][[Image:inv_helmet_119.png|22px]] '''{{qtt|[[User:MoneygruberTheGoblin|<span style="color:#0e5c84; cursor:help" title="MoneygruberTheGoblin">MoneygruberTheGoblin</span>]]|Chieftain of the Gentleman Tribe}}'''([[User talk:MoneygruberTheGoblin|talk]] [[Special:Contributions/MoneygruberTheGoblin|contribs]]) |
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| − | :::No worries i've done it--[[User:Ashbear160|Ashbear160]] ([[User talk:Ashbear160|talk]]) 21:04, 4 November 2011 (UTC) |
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| − | ::::Left the Wildhammer and Dragonmaw because they are fighting the twilight hammer while fighting each other in the twilight highlands. |
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| − | ::::Put every alliance commander under varian and garrosh. hope that's not a problems--[[User:Ashbear160|Ashbear160]] ([[User talk:Ashbear160|talk]]) 21:05, 4 November 2011 (UTC) |
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| − | :::::I thought the same. Done. [[Image:inv_helmet_44.png|22px]][[Image:inv_helmet_119.png|22px]] '''{{qtt|[[User:MoneygruberTheGoblin|<span style="color:#0e5c84; cursor:help" title="MoneygruberTheGoblin">MoneygruberTheGoblin</span>]]|Chieftain of the Gentleman Tribe}}'''([[User talk:MoneygruberTheGoblin|talk]] [[Special:Contributions/MoneygruberTheGoblin|contribs]]) 21:06, 4 November 2011 (UTC) |
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| − | ::::::Sorry im quick to jump onto things. You could change it back to your revision if you like [[Image:inv_helmet_44.png|22px]][[Image:inv_helmet_119.png|22px]] '''{{qtt|[[User:MoneygruberTheGoblin|<span style="color:#0e5c84; cursor:help" title="MoneygruberTheGoblin">MoneygruberTheGoblin</span>]]|Chieftain of the Gentleman Tribe}}'''([[User talk:MoneygruberTheGoblin|talk]] [[Special:Contributions/MoneygruberTheGoblin|contribs]]) 21:11, 4 November 2011 (UTC) |
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| − | A lot of activity on this page today... hope I don't have to lock it down for some edit wars I see taking place. {{User:Coobra/Sig4}} 21:09, 4 November 2011 (UTC) |
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| − | :You mean that single person? [[Image:inv_helmet_44.png|22px]][[Image:inv_helmet_119.png|22px]] '''{{qtt|[[User:MoneygruberTheGoblin|<span style="color:#0e5c84; cursor:help" title="MoneygruberTheGoblin">MoneygruberTheGoblin</span>]]|Chieftain of the Gentleman Tribe}}'''([[User talk:MoneygruberTheGoblin|talk]] [[Special:Contributions/MoneygruberTheGoblin|contribs]]) 21:10, 4 November 2011 (UTC) |
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| − | ::Yes... I suppose it is one person causing it, isn't it... First time I've seen him communicate through a talk page too. {{User:Coobra/Sig4}} 21:11, 4 November 2011 (UTC) |
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Revision as of 17:16, 5 November 2011
 Studies in Lethality | |
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| Start | Serge Hinott |
| End | Serge Hinott |
| Level | 22 |
| Category | Hillsbrad Foothills |
| Experience | 1750 |
| Reputation | +250 Undercity |
| Rewards |
14 |
| Previous | Trouble at Southshore |
Objectives
Recover 250 Blight Samples.
- Blight Sample taken (250)
Description
We used a fairly potent strain of blight against the humans of Southshore. As you can see, it worked. The trouble with blight use, though, is that blight tends to stick around after it's served its purpose.
What I need from you is to take this testing kit and get out into the field to get a lethality count from the light slimes that we've released into the area. Use the lethality analyzer on the blight slimes sweeping the slime pools. Come back to me when you have some solid data.
Rewards
You will receive: 14
Progress
We need Southshore move in ready!
Completion
Oh my. 250? This thing doesn't go past 250. How are you still standing? You should be a puddle of goo by now. Sylvanas will be most displeased with this information. There might be some things we can do to reduce the lethality levels of the area by a few decades, but that still leaves us out by about a hundred or so years.
Notes
Once you accept this quest, you will get a new heads-up display, an analogue meter reader that shows the level of anger from the Blight Slime.
As you take samples from the Blight Slime, they will progressively get angry at you. Initialy they are neutral to you. As you progress in this quest, they become unfriendly and the following warnings are given. Finally, near completion, they are hostile to you and attack you on sight.
- The Blight Slimes are beginning to react negatively towards your prodding.
- The Blight Slimes are getting ANGRY!
- The Blight Slimes want your blood!
- At this point, you will be offered the quest quest:Angry Scrubbing Bubbles, and the Angry Blight Slimes will become attackable.
Quest progression
Introduction and Azurelode Mine
Optional breadcrumbs: 
[7-30] Empire of Dirt or [7-30] Warchief's Command: Hillsbrad Foothills!
[7-30] Welcome to the Machine- [7-30] Trouble at Azurelode & [7-30] Glorious Harvest & [7-30] Past Their Prime
- [7-30] Human Infestation & [7-30] Thieving Little Monsters! & [7-30] Coastal Delicacies!
- [7-30] Deep Mine Rescue
Sludge Fields
- [7-30] Trouble at the Sludge Fields
- [7-30] No One Here Gets Out Alive
- [7-30] Discretion is Key & [7-30] For Science!
- Side quest: [7-30] The Battle for Hillsbrad, [7-30] Do the Right Thing
- Side quest:
- [7-30] A Lost Lad
- [7-30] Freedom for Lydon
- [7-30] Protocol & [7-30] Do it for Twinkles
- [7-30] Burnside Must Fall
- [7-30] A Blight Upon the Land
Ruins of Southshore
- [7-30] Trouble at Southshore
- [22] Studies in Lethality & [7-30] Green Living & [7-30] Helcular's Rod Giveth... & [7-30] Helcular's Command
- Side quest: [7-30] Angry Scrubbing Bubbles, [7-30G2] Trail of Filth
- Side quest:
Purgation Isle
- [7-30] Can You Smell What the Lok'tar is Cooking? (optional breadcrumb)
- [7-30] *Gurgle* HELP! *Gurgle*
- [7-30] Stormpike Rendezvous
- [7-30] Kasha Will Fly Again
- Side quest: [7-30] Terrible Little Creatures
- Side quest:
- [7-30] The Road to Purgation
- [7-30] They Will Never Expect This...
- [7-30] Heroes of the Horde!
Tarren Mill
- [7-30] Eastpoint Tower (breadcrumb)
- [7-30] A Fighting Chance
- [7-30] Humbert's Personal Problems
- [7-30] Stagwiches
- [7-30] The Heart of the Matter
- [7-30G3] Yetimus the Yeti Lord
Alterac Mountains
- [7-30] Aid of the Frostwolf (breadcrumb in Tarren Mill)
- [7-30] Matters of Loyalty
- [7-30] March of the Stormpike
- [7-30] Breaking the Hand
- [7-30] Cry of the Banshee
- [7-30] Decimation
- [7-30] Infiltration & [7-30] Deception and Trickery
- [7-30] Domination
- [7-30] Stormpike Apocalypse
Patch changes
- Patch 4.0.3a (2010-11-23): Added.
