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Forest just setback — I'll get you next time Gadget! Next tiiime!

Merely a setback is a catch phrase originated by Kael'thas Sunstrider in Magister's Terrace. It has become a common utterance whenever there is the perception that a boss who was previously defeated is merely being recycled, and has even appeared multiple times in World of Warcraft as a result.

Perhaps most prominently, Prince Valanar, another elf boss, yells, "Naxxanar was merely a setback!" in Icecrown Citadel.

Crusader Lord Valdelmar also yells, "The Scarlet Crusade is not over! Undeath is merely a setback!"

Even Hogger is seemingly in on the joke, despite his poor grammar: "Forest just setback!"

World of Warcraft: Cataclysm has several encounters that can be considered 'merely a setback'. On the Nefarian encounter, Blizzard seemingly paid homage to this when he yells, "Oh, I do hope this 'raid' will amuse me more than the last!"

External links

http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/x-was-merely-a-setback

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+'''Merely a setback''' is a catch phrase originated by [[Kael'thas Sunstrider]] in [[Magister's Terrace]]. It has become a common utterance whenever there is the perception that a boss who was previously defeated is merely being recycled, and has even appeared multiple times in World of Warcraft as a result.
+Perhaps most prominently, [[Prince Valanar]], another elf boss, yells, "Naxxanar was merely a setback!" in [[Icecrown Citadel]].
-As most of you probably have noticed, most simple citations are being replaced by more complex one.
-*Before: [[The Last Guardian]], page ''page number''
-*Now: {{ref book |author= Grubb, Jeff |authorlink= Jeff Grubb |title= [[The Last Guardian]] |isbn= 978-0-6710-4151-9 |pages= ''page number'' |chapter= ''chapter number'' |quote= ''quote text''}}
-The current version is better, no doubt here.
+[[Crusader Lord Valdelmar]] also yells, "The Scarlet Crusade is not over! [[Undeath]] is merely a setback!"
-But it's a hell of a mess to have to copy paste all that info again and again, when it's always the same, and doesn't change.
+Even [[Hogger]] is seemingly in on the joke, despite his poor grammar: "Forest just setback!"
-So I decided to create a template, that would output all the info with simply typing the name of the book.
+''[[World of Warcraft: Cataclysm]]'' has several encounters that can be considered 'merely a setback'. On the [[Nefarian]] encounter, Blizzard seemingly paid homage to this when he yells, "Oh, I do hope this 'raid' will amuse me more than the last!"
-My first "sketch" of it is here: {{t|source}}
+==External links==
-It's very basic: <nowiki>{{Source|<BookName>|<PageNumber>}}</nowiki>. If BookName is empty, a "citation needed" tag appears. If PageNumber is empty, a "??" appears instead. If both fields work properly, it displays "ExtendedBookName, page PageNumber".
+*http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/x-was-merely-a-setback
-It only works for some novels/manga/comics, but should work for every single official material, including games and the RPG.
-But I'm having some design doubts, and I'd prefer to clear up them before improving it:
-*Should BookName be the complete name of the book?
-*Should books that are part of a series have unique name (ie, Sundering) or should they follow the series' name (ie, WotA3)?
-*Should monthly comic issues be in, or just the volumes?
-*Should I add a new "SourceType" field to make the generation faster? Right now, it has to look for the source between all the existing sources. With a SourceType field, it would look only between manga/novels/comics.
-Those are all for now.--[[User:Lon-ami|Lon-ami]] ([[User talk:Lon-ami|talk]]) 14:05, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
-:Some tests of the template:
-:*'''<code><nowiki>{{Source|TLG|18}}</nowiki></nowiki></code>
-:*{{Source|TLG|18}}
-:*'''<code><nowiki>{{Source|TLG}}</nowiki></nowiki></code>
-:*{{Source|TLG}}
-:*'''<code><nowiki>{{Source|Lulz}}</nowiki></nowiki></code>
-:*{{Source|Lulz}}
-:*'''<code><nowiki>{{Source|18}}</nowiki></nowiki></code>
-:*{{Source|18}}
-:*'''<code><nowiki>{{Source}}</nowiki></nowiki></code>
-:*{{Source}}
-:Seems I have to fix something, "check empty" is giving problems :P.--[[User:Lon-ami|Lon-ami]] ([[User talk:Lon-ami|talk]]) 14:07, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
-::Eww, use #switch instead of chained #ifeq. --{{User:Pcj/sig}} 14:47, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
-:::Aw, sorry, I copy-pasted it from another one I had where I used number ranges. Changing it asap.--[[User:Lon-ami|Lon-ami]] ([[User talk:Lon-ami|talk]]) 15:43, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
-::::Even number ranges should use #switch if its written like that... o.O --{{User:Pcj/sig}} 15:45, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
-:::::Nop, I tried a template like that, and it failed again and again. Here it is:
-:::::*[[User:Lon-ami/Template:User SoL Rank]]
-:::::*[[User:Lon-ami/Template:User SoL Rank/ranks]]
-:::::*[[User:Lon-ami/Template:User SoL Rank/doc]]
-:::::*[[Forum:Give templates different use choices: how?]]
-:::::I was busy at thinking at further design that I forgot about switch xD (funny, I originally used switch on that one). You can tell I don't make complicate templates often :P.
-:::::Anyway, any idea on detecting fields not being used?--[[User:Lon-ami|Lon-ami]] ([[User talk:Lon-ami|talk]]) 15:53, 18 November 2010 (UTC)