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Black dragons

Add Black Drakes and Black dragon to the race list, the dragonmaw have enslaved some.--Ashbear160 (talk) 23:54, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

No, they can have a note under the dragonmaw clan section, but they're not a Horde race. SnakeSssssssssssssssssssssssss Coobra sig3For Pony! (Sssss/Slithered) 04:02, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
Same applies to the kobolds and wyverns yet they are on the list, they are a horde slave race.--Ashbear160 (talk) 11:54, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
Wyverns are not slaves, they mutually work together... and if you want me to remove Kobolds I will then, I wasn't all that into having them on the list as is. SnakeSssssssssssssssssssssssss Coobra sig3For Pony! (Sssss/Slithered) 16:45, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
If you gunna remove Kobolds doesn't that take out Low Common aswell, what other horde races speak Low Common ?? --ArbiterX122591 (talk) 20:21, 91 June 2011 (UTC)
Ogres. SnakeSssssssssssssssssssssssss Coobra sig3For Pony! (Sssss/Slithered) 02:02, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

Lady Liadrin

Lady Liadrin is as a Horde leader as Tirion is an Alliance one. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Lebleuet (talk · contr).

Plz use sigs and make new section when appropriate, i don't agree Tirion fused the silver hand and made it into the argent crusade a neutral faction, the blood knights still exist as a faction although allied with Sha'tar and renouced ties with the prince, they didn't renounce their ties with the nation of Quel'thalas and continue to teach blood knights in the horde.--Ashbear160 (talk) 15:03, 29 June 2011 (UTC)
She fits the bill of secondary leader perfectly. She leads the Horde's primary paladin sect, and has ties elsewhere too like Hamuul and Malfurion; albeit slightly weaker since the SSO is meaningless now. Unlike Tirion, who was, you know... exiled from the Alliance. Grissom (talk) 15:09, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

I really don't agree. Those who have exiled Tirion (Daelin, Arthas, Teranas and Antonidas) are all dead and the human kingdoms they represented no belong to the Alliance (excepted Kul'Tiras). For instance it's not because the Alliance tried to execute the blood elves (high elves at this moment, racially speaking) that there's no high elves part of the modern Alliance today.

File:LadyLiadrin.jpg Furthermore, as you can see on this screenshot, Liadrin is wearing the Shattered Sun Offensive's tabard, a neutral organization. She was never involved in any Horde global events so I don't think that's relevent to put her in the Horde secondary leaders list.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Lebleuet (talk · contr).

You're grasping at straws; I don't quite see where this is coming from and your argument is frankly incomparable. Here's the thing - Lady Liadrin leads the Blood Knights. The Blood Knights are a prominent Horde organization with a lot of exposure. If Liadrin was somehow deposed of her rank as Blood Knight Matriarch, then sure, she would have no ties to the Horde. But she hasn't been. She still leads this Horde organization as its supreme leader. That's why she's on the secondary leaders list.
And sign your posts. Four "~"s. Grissom (talk) 18:16, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

Forsaken zombies not ghouls

The Forsaken have one zombie Algernon, they don't have ghouls. User:Ultimatex (talk)

Very well, ghouls removed, Zombies and Wraiths added. SnakeSssssssssssssssssssssssss Coobra sig3For Pony! (Sssss/Slithered) 01:37, 24 September 2011 (UTC)
We really don't know for sure. She had all of the Scourge in her arsenal in Wracraft III but that was likely game mechanics. Also if you don't mind my asking were are forsaken Wraiths? IconSmall ForestTroll MaleIconSmall IceTroll Male MoneygruberTheGoblinChieftain of the Gentleman Tribe(talk contribs)IconSmall SandTroll MaleIconSmall DarkTroll Male 20:47, 24 September 2011 (UTC)
At least one I know of is one of the bankers in Undercity, Ophelia Montague. SnakeSssssssssssssssssssssssss Coobra sig3For Pony! (Sssss/Slithered) 01:25, 25 September 2011 (UTC)
I actually just discovered a forsaken plague eruptor, an Unstable Assistant in the Twilight Highlands. Is he worth adding to the list? Inv helmet 44Inv helmet 119 MoneygruberTheGoblinChieftain of the Gentleman Tribe(talk contribs) 00:56, 8 November 2011 (UTC)
Yes, but only because this has long since passed ridiculous. If you want to help save sanity from oblivion, then probably no.--SWM2448 01:02, 8 November 2011 (UTC)
Add it, the more complete it is the better.--Ashbear160 (talk) 01:29, 8 November 2011 (UTC)
I'd say no... he's an unstable experiment, not a member of the Horde. SnakeSssssssssssssssssssssssss Coobra sig3For Pony! (Sssss/Slithered) 03:10, 8 November 2011 (UTC)\
...That actually makes sense Inv helmet 44Inv helmet 119 MoneygruberTheGoblinChieftain of the Gentleman Tribe(talk contribs) 03:37, 8 November 2011 (UTC)

Garrosh's magnataur and proto-drake

"Having brought down a number of captive magnataur and proto-drakes from Northrend that he domesticated by holding their young hostage, Garrosh plans to see his dreams of expansion realized."

Should we list these two in the info-box? IconSmall ForestTroll MaleIconSmall IceTroll Male MoneygruberTheGoblinChieftain of the Gentleman Tribe(talk contribs)IconSmall SandTroll MaleIconSmall DarkTroll Male 19:54, 25 September 2011 (UTC)

Not until we actually see it happen. SnakeSssssssssssssssssssssssss Coobra sig3For Pony! (Sssss/Slithered) 23:33, 25 September 2011 (UTC)
Nah it's very brief and used momentarily so they ar not part of the current members altrough we could probably add a note to former members section, since i don't have the book i'll leave that note to someone esle.--Ashbear160 (talk) 00:01, 26 September 2011 (UTC)

Boss Mida

I'm thinking she should be under secondary leaders. She seems to lead the Goblins in Orgrimmar, if not the whole Cartel, in Gallywix's absence.

Please sign your posts. And I can see what you mean but I think she's only running the slums. Running a town doesn't really justify a spot on secondary leaders. If we had anything of her saying "Im taking care of the cartel while Gallywix is out" then I would have to say yes. Inv helmet 44Inv helmet 119 High Warlord GentlemanChieftain of the Gentleman Tribe (talk contribs) 17:22, 12 November 2011 (UTC)
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