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{{Ood|Needs updating for [[Patch 6.0.2]] and previous. All characters now have a 100% chance to hit, 0% chance to be dodged, 3% chance to be parried, and 0% chance for glancing blows, when fighting creatures up to 3 levels higher (bosses included).}}{{Accuracy}}
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'''Glancing blows''' are combat events that can occur when fighting a mob more than 3 levels higher.
== Glancing ==
 
'''Glancing blows''' are combat events that can occur when fighting a mob of equal or higher level.
 
   
These occur only on white damage, cannot crit, and result in the attack having it's damage reduced in proportion to the difference between the attacker's weapon skill (capped at the attacker's level * 5), and the target's defense skill.
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These occur only on white damage and result in the attack having its damage reduced in proportion to the difference between the attacker's weapon skill (capped at the attacker's level * 5), and the target's defense skill.
   
At current Glancing blows occur at about 30% of the time versus mobs that are above your level. These attacks only do 70% of their normal damage versus a mob that is 3 levels above you. (10% per mob level). Bosses are counted as "your level+3".
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At current Glancing blows occur at about 20% of the time versus mobs that are above your level. These attacks only do 75% of their normal damage versus a mob that is 3 levels above you. Bosses are counted as "your level+3".
   
 
Against [[mobs]] with defense roughly equal to or higher than your [[Attack Rating]] (i.e. your weapon skill), you will have a chance to land a glancing blow instead of a normal hit. A glancing blow only occurs on white melee damage and does less damage than a normal blow. If the attacker's weapon skill is ''less'' than his level * 5, the damage reduction will be proportional to the difference between the attacker's weapon skill and the target's defense.
== Effect from Weapon skill ==
 
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== Effect from weapon skill ==
 
Weapon skill greater than the normal max for your level (i.e. your level * 5) does not reduce the chance for a glancing blow to land.
 
Weapon skill greater than the normal max for your level (i.e. your level * 5) does not reduce the chance for a glancing blow to land.
 
: Prior to 2.0.1, extra weapon skill ''did'' reduce the severity of the damage reduction, but this is no longer the case.
 
: Prior to 2.0.1, extra weapon skill ''did'' reduce the severity of the damage reduction, but this is no longer the case.
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Glancing blows do not occur against players, only against mobs. At present ranged attacks do not result in glancing blows.
 
Glancing blows do not occur against players, only against mobs. At present ranged attacks do not result in glancing blows.
   
 
== Glancing blow chance ==
 
=== Pre 2.1 ===
 
Players have a chance to perform a glancing blow against [[mobs]] equal to 10% plus 2% per point of difference between attack rating and defense. Non-melee classes level 30 and higher have a 60% chance to glancing blow. Non-melee classes from level 11 to level 29 have a (level - 10) * 3% chance of a glancing blow. Weapon skill ''above'' your level * 5, as from gear or racial bonuses, affects neither the damage reduction nor the chances of landing a [[glancing blow]]. A mob's Defense skill is equal to its level * 5.
   
 
This formula means that, for a level 60 player with fully trained weapon skill, 30% of all white-damage melee attacks will be Glancing Blows against level 62 [[mobs]], and 40% of all white-damage melee attacks will be Glancing Blows against level 63 [[mobs]].
=== Glancing blows ===
 
   
 
The presence of your weapon skill in this formula, rather than just your level, explains why training up a newly-acquired weapon skill against mobs close to your own level results in many, many Glancing Blows at first.
Against [[mobs]] with defense roughly equal to or higher than your [[Attack Rating]] (i.e. your weapon skill), you will have a chance to land a glancing blow instead of a normal hit. A glancing blow only occurs on white melee damage, cannot crit, and does less damage than a normal blow. If the attacker's weapon skill is ''less'' than his level * 5, the damage reduction will be proportional to the difference between the attacker's weapon skill and the target's defense. Weapon skill ''above'' your level * 5, as from gear or racial bonuses, affects neither the damage reduction nor the chances of landing a [[glancing blow]].
 
   
==== Glancing Blow chance ====
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=== Post 2.1 ===
   
 
The release notes for patch 2.1 say the following:
===== Pre 2.1 =====
 
   
 
* Glancing Blows have significantly less of a chance to occur during a player's melee attacks when targets are near the player's level.
Players have a chance to perform a glancing blow against [[mobs]] equal to 10% plus 2% per point of difference between attack rating and defense. Non-melee classes level 30 and higher have a 60% chance to glancing blow. Non-melee classes from level 11 to level 29 have a (level - 10) * 3% chance of a glancing blow. As noted above, your maximum attack rating in this formula is 5 times your level. A mob's Defense skill is equal to its level * 5.
 
   
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The new formula seems to be:
This formula means that, for a level 60 player with fully trained weapon skill, 30% of all white-damage melee attacks will be Glancing Blows against level 62 [[mobs]], and 40% of all white-damage melee attacks will be Glancing Blows against level 63 [[mobs]].
 
   
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glancing blow chance = 10 + mob defense - player weapon skill
The presence of your weapon skill in this formula, rather than just your level, explains why training up a newly-acquired weapon skill against mobs close to your own level results in many, many Glancing Blows at first.
 
   
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For a level 73 mob, that's a 25% chance of glancing blow.
===== Post 2.1 =====
 
   
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The pre-2.1 automatic base glancing blow chance for non-melee classes, when attacking targets level 30 and higher, seems to have been removed.
The release notes for patch 2.1 say the following:
 
   
 
=== Post 3.0 ===
* Glancing Blows have significantly less of a chance to occur during a player's melee attacks when targets are near the player's level.
 
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Experimentally, players using Recount have consistently seen 24% of their melee auto-attacks against Raid Boss monsters be glancing blows.
   
==== Glancing Blow damage reduction ====
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=== Post 3.3 ===
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Caster classes no longer have an increased chance to land a glancing blow.
   
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== Glancing blow damage reduction ==
 
The damage of a glancing blow is complicated. It starts by calculating the difference between the target's Defense and the attacker's attack rating, where the attack rating is ''capped'' at the attacker's level * 5 (just as it is for determining the chance of a glancing blow occurring). This is then used to calculate a minimum and maximum damage factor. The actual damage factor is then randomized between these two values. The low value starts at 1.3 - 0.05 * rating difference. If the attacker is a caster then this is reduced by 0.7 more. The smaller value of this and 0.6 is kept as the low end. If the attacker is a melee class then instead the lower value of 0.91 and (1.3 - 0.05 * rating difference) is used for the low. Regardless, the low end will not go below 0.01.
 
The damage of a glancing blow is complicated. It starts by calculating the difference between the target's Defense and the attacker's attack rating, where the attack rating is ''capped'' at the attacker's level * 5 (just as it is for determining the chance of a glancing blow occurring). This is then used to calculate a minimum and maximum damage factor. The actual damage factor is then randomized between these two values. The low value starts at 1.3 - 0.05 * rating difference. If the attacker is a caster then this is reduced by 0.7 more. The smaller value of this and 0.6 is kept as the low end. If the attacker is a melee class then instead the lower value of 0.91 and (1.3 - 0.05 * rating difference) is used for the low. Regardless, the low end will not go below 0.01.
   
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As of 2.0.1, the player's weapon skill is capped at level * 5 in the damage reduction formula, just like it is in the formula for determining the ''chance'' of a glancing blow. (Before 2.0.1, glancing blows landed against a level 63 NPC by a level 60 player with +10 Weapon Skill would do nearly as much damage as the player's ordinary hits did.)
 
As of 2.0.1, the player's weapon skill is capped at level * 5 in the damage reduction formula, just like it is in the formula for determining the ''chance'' of a glancing blow. (Before 2.0.1, glancing blows landed against a level 63 NPC by a level 60 player with +10 Weapon Skill would do nearly as much damage as the player's ordinary hits did.)
   
==== Glancing Blow Implications ====
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== Glancing blow implications - crit cap ==
   
The fact that 40% of all white-damage melee attacks made against a Boss Mob will be Glancing Blows, no matter what you do, has serious implications when choosing how much +crit% gear to use. Due to the [[Attack table|table-based]] nature of WoW's attack resolution system, Glancing Blows take ''precedence'' over critical hits. If your combined miss, dodge, parry, block, glancing blow, and crit chance against a mob is 100% or higher, you will never see a normal white-damage hit made against that mob (all your hits will be either glancing blows or critical hits). If it ''exceeds'' 100%, it is your critical hit chance that gets "pushed off the end" of the table. Any +crit% gear added past this point will not improve your critical hit chance with white-damage melee attacks at all. This is sometimes called the "Crit cap" (see below).
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The fact that 24% of all white-damage melee attacks made against a Boss Mob will be Glancing Blows, no matter what you do, has implications when choosing how much Crit Rating gear to use. Due to the [[Attack table|table-based]] nature of WoW's attack resolution system, Glancing Blows take ''precedence'' over critical hits. If your combined miss, dodge, parry, block, glancing blow, and crit chance against a mob is 100% or higher, you will never see a normal white-damage hit made against that mob (all your hits will be either glancing blows or critical hits). If it ''exceeds'' 100%, it is your critical hit chance that gets "pushed off the end" of the table. Any Crit Rating gear added past this point will not improve your critical hit chance with white-damage melee attacks at all. This is sometimes called the "Crit cap" (see [[Critical_Strike#Crit_Cap]]).
   
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In the worst case -- dual wielding with no hit rating (27% miss chance) from the front of a Raid Boss mob (10+% parry, 6.5% dodge) who can block (6.5% chance), the crit cap is 26%. Moving behind such a mob removes the chance to block and parry, increasing the crit cap to 42.5%. Adding hit rating, or +hit chance talents, will raise this cap by reducing the chance to miss. Adding Expertise will raise this cap by reducing the chance to parry and dodge.
Instant attacks, and "yellow damage" on-next-swing attacks such as [[Heroic Strike]], do not produce Glancing Blows. For these attacks, added +crit% gear beyond the "Crit cap" described above '''will''' improve your critical hit chance.
 
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In a raid situation, it is easier to approach the crit cap than you might think. Consider a dual-wielding enhancement shaman with talents but no hit rating (19% miss), meleeing from behind (6.5% dodge, 24% glance). His crit cap would be 49.5%. With a dual mongoose proc (9.6% crit), Leader of the Pack (5% crit), Grace of Air (3.48% crit), Elixir of Major Agility (2.31% crit) and Seal of the Crusader (+3% crit), the shaman would be crit capped with only 26.11% crit from his gear and talents.
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Melee commonly exceeding the 40% crit mark should be cognizant of the cap and adjust their buffs and weapon enchant accordingly.
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"Yellow damage" melee attacks, including both Instant attacks such as [[Sinister Strike]] and on-next-swing attacks such as [[Heroic Strike]], do not produce Glancing Blows. For these attacks, added Crit Rating gear beyond the "Crit cap" described above '''will''' improve your critical hit chance.
   
 
Ranged weapon attacks (Bows, guns and crossbows) do not have glancing blows at all, thus weapon skill does not affect this for them. It works the same for all classes that can use ranged weapons (hunters, rogues and warriors).
 
Ranged weapon attacks (Bows, guns and crossbows) do not have glancing blows at all, thus weapon skill does not affect this for them. It works the same for all classes that can use ranged weapons (hunters, rogues and warriors).
   
== Notes ==
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==Patch changes==
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* {{Patch 6.0.2|note=All characters now have a 100% chance to hit, 0% chance to be dodged, 3% chance to be parried, and 0% chance for glancing blows, when fighting creatures up to 3 levels higher (bosses included).}}
There is still a debate on how to determine the chance of a glancing blow occuring, and it's severity. (see [[Talk:Formulas:Weapon Skill|Talk page]]).
 
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==See also==
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*[[Combat]]
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*[[Combat rating system]]
   
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{{Attack table}}
{{AlsoSee|[[Formulas:Weapon_Skill#Glancing_blows]]}}
 
   
[[Category:Game Terms]]
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[[Category:Game terms]]
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[[Category:Combat]]

Latest revision as of 09:21, 16 August 2020

Glancing blows are combat events that can occur when fighting a mob more than 3 levels higher.

These occur only on white damage and result in the attack having its damage reduced in proportion to the difference between the attacker's weapon skill (capped at the attacker's level * 5), and the target's defense skill.

At current Glancing blows occur at about 20% of the time versus mobs that are above your level. These attacks only do 75% of their normal damage versus a mob that is 3 levels above you. Bosses are counted as "your level+3".

Against mobs with defense roughly equal to or higher than your Attack Rating (i.e. your weapon skill), you will have a chance to land a glancing blow instead of a normal hit. A glancing blow only occurs on white melee damage and does less damage than a normal blow. If the attacker's weapon skill is less than his level * 5, the damage reduction will be proportional to the difference between the attacker's weapon skill and the target's defense.

Effect from weapon skill

Weapon skill greater than the normal max for your level (i.e. your level * 5) does not reduce the chance for a glancing blow to land.

Prior to 2.0.1, extra weapon skill did reduce the severity of the damage reduction, but this is no longer the case.

Glancing blows do not occur against players, only against mobs. At present ranged attacks do not result in glancing blows.

Glancing blow chance

Pre 2.1

Players have a chance to perform a glancing blow against mobs equal to 10% plus 2% per point of difference between attack rating and defense. Non-melee classes level 30 and higher have a 60% chance to glancing blow. Non-melee classes from level 11 to level 29 have a (level - 10) * 3% chance of a glancing blow. Weapon skill above your level * 5, as from gear or racial bonuses, affects neither the damage reduction nor the chances of landing a glancing blow. A mob's Defense skill is equal to its level * 5.

This formula means that, for a level 60 player with fully trained weapon skill, 30% of all white-damage melee attacks will be Glancing Blows against level 62 mobs, and 40% of all white-damage melee attacks will be Glancing Blows against level 63 mobs.

The presence of your weapon skill in this formula, rather than just your level, explains why training up a newly-acquired weapon skill against mobs close to your own level results in many, many Glancing Blows at first.

Post 2.1

The release notes for patch 2.1 say the following:

  • Glancing Blows have significantly less of a chance to occur during a player's melee attacks when targets are near the player's level.

The new formula seems to be:

glancing blow chance = 10 + mob defense - player weapon skill

For a level 73 mob, that's a 25% chance of glancing blow.

The pre-2.1 automatic base glancing blow chance for non-melee classes, when attacking targets level 30 and higher, seems to have been removed.

Post 3.0

Experimentally, players using Recount have consistently seen 24% of their melee auto-attacks against Raid Boss monsters be glancing blows.

Post 3.3

Caster classes no longer have an increased chance to land a glancing blow.

Glancing blow damage reduction

The damage of a glancing blow is complicated. It starts by calculating the difference between the target's Defense and the attacker's attack rating, where the attack rating is capped at the attacker's level * 5 (just as it is for determining the chance of a glancing blow occurring). This is then used to calculate a minimum and maximum damage factor. The actual damage factor is then randomized between these two values. The low value starts at 1.3 - 0.05 * rating difference. If the attacker is a caster then this is reduced by 0.7 more. The smaller value of this and 0.6 is kept as the low end. If the attacker is a melee class then instead the lower value of 0.91 and (1.3 - 0.05 * rating difference) is used for the low. Regardless, the low end will not go below 0.01.

The high end of the range starts at 1.2 - 0.03 * rating difference. Casters are reduced a further 0.3. The high value regardless of class is kept between 0.2 and 0.99.

The average reduction from a glancing blow is therefore (high + low) / 2 using the formulae above. This gives a level 60 player, with a weapon skill of 300 or more, a 15% damage reduction with all Glancing Blows against level 62 mobs, and a 35% damage reduction with all Glancing Blows against level 63 mobs.

As of 2.0.1, the player's weapon skill is capped at level * 5 in the damage reduction formula, just like it is in the formula for determining the chance of a glancing blow. (Before 2.0.1, glancing blows landed against a level 63 NPC by a level 60 player with +10 Weapon Skill would do nearly as much damage as the player's ordinary hits did.)

Glancing blow implications - crit cap

The fact that 24% of all white-damage melee attacks made against a Boss Mob will be Glancing Blows, no matter what you do, has implications when choosing how much Crit Rating gear to use. Due to the table-based nature of WoW's attack resolution system, Glancing Blows take precedence over critical hits. If your combined miss, dodge, parry, block, glancing blow, and crit chance against a mob is 100% or higher, you will never see a normal white-damage hit made against that mob (all your hits will be either glancing blows or critical hits). If it exceeds 100%, it is your critical hit chance that gets "pushed off the end" of the table. Any Crit Rating gear added past this point will not improve your critical hit chance with white-damage melee attacks at all. This is sometimes called the "Crit cap" (see Critical_Strike#Crit_Cap).

In the worst case -- dual wielding with no hit rating (27% miss chance) from the front of a Raid Boss mob (10+% parry, 6.5% dodge) who can block (6.5% chance), the crit cap is 26%. Moving behind such a mob removes the chance to block and parry, increasing the crit cap to 42.5%. Adding hit rating, or +hit chance talents, will raise this cap by reducing the chance to miss. Adding Expertise will raise this cap by reducing the chance to parry and dodge.

In a raid situation, it is easier to approach the crit cap than you might think. Consider a dual-wielding enhancement shaman with talents but no hit rating (19% miss), meleeing from behind (6.5% dodge, 24% glance). His crit cap would be 49.5%. With a dual mongoose proc (9.6% crit), Leader of the Pack (5% crit), Grace of Air (3.48% crit), Elixir of Major Agility (2.31% crit) and Seal of the Crusader (+3% crit), the shaman would be crit capped with only 26.11% crit from his gear and talents.

Melee commonly exceeding the 40% crit mark should be cognizant of the cap and adjust their buffs and weapon enchant accordingly.

"Yellow damage" melee attacks, including both Instant attacks such as Spell shadow ritualofsacrifice [Sinister Strike] and on-next-swing attacks such as Ability rogue ambush [Heroic Strike], do not produce Glancing Blows. For these attacks, added Crit Rating gear beyond the "Crit cap" described above will improve your critical hit chance.

Ranged weapon attacks (Bows, guns and crossbows) do not have glancing blows at all, thus weapon skill does not affect this for them. It works the same for all classes that can use ranged weapons (hunters, rogues and warriors).

Patch changes

  • Warlords of Draenor Patch 6.0.2 (2014-10-14): All characters now have a 100% chance to hit, 0% chance to be dodged, 3% chance to be parried, and 0% chance for glancing blows, when fighting creatures up to 3 levels higher (bosses included).

See also