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::Hm... Thrall is a good leader, but I hate his latest decisions. His late leadership sucks, letting Garrosh destroy everything he has worked for without reasons at all. Varian sucks because his latest attitude can't be explained, at least for now. We shall wait for the end of this arc of the comic. Vol'jin, Gelbin, Cairne and Tyrande don't do anything, their role as leaders is invisible in-game. Sylvanas is nice, but she has failed epicly after letting Varimathras betray her. Pay more attention, my beloved lady. You could be dead (again). Lor'themar is nice... no, wait, no he's not. He didn't seem to discover Kael'thas' plans until it was too late and he had stolen M'uru. So, there's only one left: Velen. Thanks god, he hasn't failed epicly. Yet. But he had his fails at Argus... well, they're nothing compared to the latest fails of the other leaders. So my vote goes for Velen. --[[User:Lon-ami|Lon-ami]] ([[User talk:Lon-ami|talk]]) 16:20, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
 
::Hm... Thrall is a good leader, but I hate his latest decisions. His late leadership sucks, letting Garrosh destroy everything he has worked for without reasons at all. Varian sucks because his latest attitude can't be explained, at least for now. We shall wait for the end of this arc of the comic. Vol'jin, Gelbin, Cairne and Tyrande don't do anything, their role as leaders is invisible in-game. Sylvanas is nice, but she has failed epicly after letting Varimathras betray her. Pay more attention, my beloved lady. You could be dead (again). Lor'themar is nice... no, wait, no he's not. He didn't seem to discover Kael'thas' plans until it was too late and he had stolen M'uru. So, there's only one left: Velen. Thanks god, he hasn't failed epicly. Yet. But he had his fails at Argus... well, they're nothing compared to the latest fails of the other leaders. So my vote goes for Velen. --[[User:Lon-ami|Lon-ami]] ([[User talk:Lon-ami|talk]]) 16:20, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
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:::I'd have to vote for Sylvanas Windrunner out of all of these, but really the current lore leads me to the selection of "none". I absolutely hate Thrall and what he's done to the orc lore. Its awesome they broke free, but to over correct so far that he's on a peaceful path with the people that live so close that they pose a threat angers me. The only true great faction leaders have been Doomhammer and Lothar, one of whom got a heroes death, the other was just sloppily written out of lore. -- {{User:Cougrrr/sig}}
   
 
I defiantly have to go with King Varian Wrynn on this one. He's one of the few racial leaders (and Warcraft characters in general) that acts exactly like a real person would in their situation. Despite the myriad of reasons that he has to absolutely despise the Horde and all of its members (The Forsaken are indeed evil, the orcs destroyed his Kingdom, leading to the murder of his wife, they assassinated his father, the Wrathgate, the Broken Front, etc.), he not only strived for peace for a great many years (he was kidnapped going to a diplomatic conference, he teamed up with the Horde to take down the Lich King at the beginning, etc - his best friend is a blood elf for crying out loud). You can only push a man so far though. He's tired of the Horde's recklessness, and Thrall's inability to control the Horde at all (A demon as majordomo of one of the races? Sylvanas wanting to end all life on Azeroth? The Forsaken in general? Garrosh Hellscream? The Broken Front? The Warsong Gultch?) - and he's absolutely right. The Alliance has been fairly weak on leadership for a great many years, King Varian has finally come back to kick ass and take names. The Horde's going to have to learn that the Alliance isn't going to just roll over and accept their actions every time they do something horribly evil. The Horde needs to learn to control themselves, and stop playing victim every time someone calls them out on their B.S. [[User:Tevri|Tevri]] ([[User talk:Tevri|talk]]) 17:50, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
 
I defiantly have to go with King Varian Wrynn on this one. He's one of the few racial leaders (and Warcraft characters in general) that acts exactly like a real person would in their situation. Despite the myriad of reasons that he has to absolutely despise the Horde and all of its members (The Forsaken are indeed evil, the orcs destroyed his Kingdom, leading to the murder of his wife, they assassinated his father, the Wrathgate, the Broken Front, etc.), he not only strived for peace for a great many years (he was kidnapped going to a diplomatic conference, he teamed up with the Horde to take down the Lich King at the beginning, etc - his best friend is a blood elf for crying out loud). You can only push a man so far though. He's tired of the Horde's recklessness, and Thrall's inability to control the Horde at all (A demon as majordomo of one of the races? Sylvanas wanting to end all life on Azeroth? The Forsaken in general? Garrosh Hellscream? The Broken Front? The Warsong Gultch?) - and he's absolutely right. The Alliance has been fairly weak on leadership for a great many years, King Varian has finally come back to kick ass and take names. The Horde's going to have to learn that the Alliance isn't going to just roll over and accept their actions every time they do something horribly evil. The Horde needs to learn to control themselves, and stop playing victim every time someone calls them out on their B.S. [[User:Tevri|Tevri]] ([[User talk:Tevri|talk]]) 17:50, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

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Forums: Village pumpWarcraft lore Who is your favourite faction leader and why?


To kick off the new lore forum, here's a quick quiz about faction leaders...

My personal choice would be Velen, as there's a lot about him we still don't know, and I think there's definite opportunity for character development in the future - if we fight off the Burning Legion, what does he do? Kirkburn  talk  contr 12:55, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

I vote for Thrall. He is (in my opinion) the far most developed leader (and perhaps even character) in Warcraft, and he works for Alliance-Horde peace, something Varian Wrynn is obviously not too fond of. Plus, he's cool. INV Misc Orb 04Xavius, the Satyr Lord 14:50, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
Hm... Thrall is a good leader, but I hate his latest decisions. His late leadership sucks, letting Garrosh destroy everything he has worked for without reasons at all. Varian sucks because his latest attitude can't be explained, at least for now. We shall wait for the end of this arc of the comic. Vol'jin, Gelbin, Cairne and Tyrande don't do anything, their role as leaders is invisible in-game. Sylvanas is nice, but she has failed epicly after letting Varimathras betray her. Pay more attention, my beloved lady. You could be dead (again). Lor'themar is nice... no, wait, no he's not. He didn't seem to discover Kael'thas' plans until it was too late and he had stolen M'uru. So, there's only one left: Velen. Thanks god, he hasn't failed epicly. Yet. But he had his fails at Argus... well, they're nothing compared to the latest fails of the other leaders. So my vote goes for Velen. --Lon-ami (talk) 16:20, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
I'd have to vote for Sylvanas Windrunner out of all of these, but really the current lore leads me to the selection of "none". I absolutely hate Thrall and what he's done to the orc lore. Its awesome they broke free, but to over correct so far that he's on a peaceful path with the people that live so close that they pose a threat angers me. The only true great faction leaders have been Doomhammer and Lothar, one of whom got a heroes death, the other was just sloppily written out of lore. -- User:Cougrrr/sig

I defiantly have to go with King Varian Wrynn on this one. He's one of the few racial leaders (and Warcraft characters in general) that acts exactly like a real person would in their situation. Despite the myriad of reasons that he has to absolutely despise the Horde and all of its members (The Forsaken are indeed evil, the orcs destroyed his Kingdom, leading to the murder of his wife, they assassinated his father, the Wrathgate, the Broken Front, etc.), he not only strived for peace for a great many years (he was kidnapped going to a diplomatic conference, he teamed up with the Horde to take down the Lich King at the beginning, etc - his best friend is a blood elf for crying out loud). You can only push a man so far though. He's tired of the Horde's recklessness, and Thrall's inability to control the Horde at all (A demon as majordomo of one of the races? Sylvanas wanting to end all life on Azeroth? The Forsaken in general? Garrosh Hellscream? The Broken Front? The Warsong Gultch?) - and he's absolutely right. The Alliance has been fairly weak on leadership for a great many years, King Varian has finally come back to kick ass and take names. The Horde's going to have to learn that the Alliance isn't going to just roll over and accept their actions every time they do something horribly evil. The Horde needs to learn to control themselves, and stop playing victim every time someone calls them out on their B.S. Tevri (talk) 17:50, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

Sylvanas, she was the best from when she was first introduced in W3, no one else can quite get under Arthas' skin the way she does... Although exactly what happened to her and her ideas and plans since the Varimarthras thing? I got no idea... Max Krist (talk) 08:25, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
Alliance-side, it's Velen, hands-down—both for the reasons stated by Kirkburn, and because I like draenei, dammit.  Jaina would be a contender, but they need to do more with her (and she wasn't on the list anyway).  Horde-side...tie between Thrall (because he's a bad@$$) and Cairne (because he's...Cairne).

And I despise Varian.  He and Garrosh Hellscream are nearly two of a kind:  Garrosh seems more reckless, but Varian makes up for it by being an obnoxious Marty Sam.
IconSmall Draenei Female Farseer Loloteatalkcontrib 10:28, 24 May 2009 (UTC)