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The big question: where will the next World of Warcraft expansion take place? Certainly interest seems to be increasing, and some members of the Warcraft community may already know what it is! (No, I don't, before you ask :) My thoughts are definitely centred about the Emerald Dream and the Great Sea at the moment, but I would love to see some more use of the old world via phasing. Kirkburn  talk  contr 16:04, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

I bet we'll find out at BlizzCon...I'm leaning towards the Maelstrom/Undermine at the moment...--PcjGamepedia wiki manager (TDrop me a line!

C58,963 contributions and counting) 16:06, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

I would think about the Great Sea, but I won't. I will, instead, focus on the Emmerald Dream. One of the reasons is the upcoming novel, Stormrage. The other one that Great Sea will be cooler with some characters that come from the ED.
But, hell. Blizzard could even mix the 2 themes into a lone expansion. Who knows.
Here you have my plot for the Great Sea expansion, anyway:
(I'm editing it to include more stuff, about a possible return of the Illidari)
--Lon-ami (talk) 17:31, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
At the moment my bet would be on the Great Sea, but only because that's the one with the most existing lore. There are a number of named islands, their sizes and positions, and even some of the cities on them. In contrast we know almost nothing of the Emerald Dream. Any ideas on that would have to start from scratch, so it would take a long time before an Emerald Dream expansion could be ready. Jormungand IconSmall Rogue talk · contribs 19:14, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
It would be positively lovely to have the Great Sea... but it's just too big. And very segmented into islands. So Blizzard would look to somewhere more solid. The Emerald Dream is going to be the new expansion pack. --IconSmall ArcaneGolemMantriox/T/C 21:05, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

Whatever the next expansion is, it is likely that Gilneas will play a part in it, based on what Metzen said when interviewed. Inv misc orb 04Xavius, the Satyr Lord 07:35, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

I have a strong suspicion you are right about Gilneas, though I wonder if it's coming even sooner (given some odd hints on the official forums a week or so ago). Kirkburn  talk  contr 12:07, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
Odd hints? Can you link the relevant posts/threads, please? Inv misc orb 04Xavius, the Satyr Lord 21:50, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
Looking, but not finding at the moment - there were just a few mentions of it a while back for no apparent reason. For example, see Wryxian's signature on [1]. Kirkburn  talk  contr 11:17, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
Awesome, what is that thing? looks like a new companion... Max Krist (talk) 11:42, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
Wryxian's signature is the flavor text from [Genn's Copper Coin]. Wryxian's avatar can be got as a companion as a rare drop from [Bag of Fishing Treasures (Terokkar Forest)] (reward for level 70 daily fishing quests): [Chuck's Bucket], [Muckbreath's Bucket], [Snarly's Bucket], or [Toothy's Bucket]. I was really lucky and got one in my first bag on my lazy druid. --Gengar orange 22x22Beware the sneaky smile! Fandyllic (talk · contr) 4:52 PM PST 11 May 2009
lol guess that solves the mystery then, or answers my ignorance... :P Max Krist (talk) 00:25, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

I believe it will be the Emerald Dream, as they've left Malfurion in limbo there for far too long. Plus I think Blizz will want another excuse to play around with some "exotic" fantasy again like they did with BC, the sea can wait... Max Krist (talk) 08:31, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

What about Elemental Plain, that would be exotic -IconSmall Dwarf MaleUi-charactercreate-classes paladinTalk Contribs 20:48, 10 May 2009 (UTC)

The Elemental Plane is also a possiblity, although the Dream and the Sea seem more likely as of now. Inv misc orb 04Xavius, the Satyr Lord 06:29, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
The Elemental Plane has thus far mostly been restricted to the RPG books, which makes it a bit unfamiliar for most players. It would allow a huge amount of variety and novel worlds, but I think it could be 'too' exotic for WoW, given how they said after TBC they wanted to return to a more normal, grounded world to explore. Kirkburn  talk  contr 18:29, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
Totaly agree with Kirkburn, i don't know enough about the elemental plane to want to go thier yet, it just holds no attraction for me. Seeing the wonders of the Emerald Dream and discvering the fates of Ysera and Malfurion? Very intriguing. Of course the Great Sea has awesome potential too, but i have a feeling when it does happen it's gonna be pretty apocolyptic, Naga, Murlocs, attacking the trolls and other elemental lords? sounds like Neptulon (if he is the real one responsible) has a pretty well thought out plan which will be hard to stop... Also when Queen Azshara returns? i doubt we will ever have seen someone as strong and angry as her! :P Max Krist (talk) 21:54, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
Considering Azshara is an extremely old and extremely powerful sorcerer, most stuff with the great sea would be extremely dangerous, and all monsters would have to be extremely powerful. Seeing as a lot of very powerful and very dangerous artifacts and monsters reside beneath the sea, I ,as well, see it as an intriguing possibility. -IconSmall Dwarf MaleUi-charactercreate-classes paladinTalk Contribs 01:22, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
And yet another Old God :) Kirkburn  talk  contr 17:32, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
Concerning coverage of the elemental plane; well, we do have Ragnaros and the Molten Core, the Hydraxian Waterlords, Princess Theradras, the Elemental Invasions, Lord Ahune and the Fire Festival... So I'd say it's at least as covered as the Dream in-game, but not as likely, though. Inv misc orb 04Xavius, the Satyr Lord 17:44, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

The introduction of mounts being able to swim, along with aquatic mounts leads me to believe the Maelstrom is likely in the next expansion. We've had far too long of a break from killing scores of Naga. — Exquisite (talk) 01:03, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

If the Great Sea will be the next expansion, I wish it can be hybrid, and not only under-sea stuff, the islands are REALLY important to not make the game boring
Well, the modification on player's breath time maybe also a tip, now we can go 3 times deeper than before. Pudim17 (talk - contr)
They would have to add more than air fissures too... like giant (but not too big where if you entered at the top you'd die by falling) air bubbles that players could rest, eat, drink in.... possibly add flippers for increased underwater speed =P User:Coobra/Sig4 21:31, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
Why not a series of island zones divided by some invisable wall or fatigue mechanic?--User:Sandwichman2448/Sig 22:26, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
Yeah, that's what I was talking about, only under-sea content would change the whole gameplay, there MUST have Over sea-level content, and we have a lot of islands on the lore. :D Pudim17 (talk - contr) 13:36, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
Well I would think Undermine would appear as the neutral city and therefor the island of Kezan making an appearance. Given that theres many islands around the area, they don't have to just stick with those either. New islands can be "discovered" such as the Azuremyst and Bloodmyst Isles. User:Coobra/Sig4 19:43, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
Undermine? O, c'mon, guys, why do you all believe Undermine's going to be the capital of the south seas?
Zandalar is way better. Also, it's a sanctuary city, and no one wants more troll instances.
--Lon-ami (talk) 10:52, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
lol i have to concur, despite that it is more likely to be Undermine, i'm sick to death of hearing about it... :P Max Krist (talk) 11:20, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
Yeah, I don't like the idea of Undermine being a sanctuary. I BET Pandaren will be a new alliance class and therefore I hope goblins be the next horde one, but I also think Zandalar can't be the sanctuary cuz the alliance HATES trolls, although Yojamba Isle is friendly to both factions. Pudim17 (talk - contr) 13:06, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
Zandalar trolls are neutral. Leave them as they are and don't transform them into raid bosses, for god's sake. And, well, hate doesn't mean anything. If you don't believe me, then explain why elves and trolls are in a same faction.--Lon-ami (talk) 15:50, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
They are in the same faction due to necessity. It is my personal theory that Zuldazar will be a neutral town like Netherwing Ledge where after a short quest chain we all get troll disguises. I want to see destroyers near the city. Also, everyone is entitled to their own opinion, and in this kind of speculation nothing 'is'.--User:Sandwichman2448/Sig 17:09, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
Lon-ami, I'm not sure how saying Undermine being a neutral city would automatically make the Zandalar a raid/instance... Nor would it automatically make Undermine a sanctuary... (though its more likely). Neutral city ≠ Sanctuary. User:Coobra/Sig4 01:52, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
I think it fits better for a capital because it being a place of peace and a great sanctuary for all the troll races. I wouldn't feel ok if they make Undermine the neutral capital and leave Zuldazar as a town.
Anyway, I don't see some cartels allowing strangers into their city. Zandalar trolls are way more neutral than goblins.--Lon-ami (talk) 12:13, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

New Capitals

Do you guys think, trolls and gnomes will have their own capital someday? Well, there is a lot of space in the sea east from Sen'jin Village :P and we can have Upper Gnomeragan, gnomes are tinkers, they have the potential to make another big city on that blank space valley over gnomeragan. Pudim17 (talk - contr) 19:59, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

Nope. I think they'll integrate even further into their current residences: Orgrimmar and Ironforge :P.--Lon-ami (talk) 20:16, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
With their phase technology they could do anything they want... that being said... I doubt they do anything for the those 2 places. User:Coobra/Sig4 00:05, 26 June 2009 (UTC)


For what it is worth (and for those who still did not read it) Random ramblings: Maelstrom the next expansion?

The Test Server tab was active on realm selection. It contained a server named "Maelstrom 3 Test". Many players noticed it and a thread has started on the official WoW forums, but the thread was quickly deleted by the "Men in Blue".

So, is Bli² hidding something greater that the Coliseum? ^^

IconSmall Hamuul Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (talk/contribz) 20:31, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

So... Permission to get my hopes up? :D Max Krist (talk) 12:45, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

There is also this: Blizzard trademarks "Cataclysm" ... Kirkburn  talk  contr 18:43, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

About that "famous" list of expansion, that was pure fanfic right? Cuz I don't believe Worgen will ever be playable, and part of the horde... Pudim17 (talk - contr) 18:33, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
Anyone could have wondered that list. TBC was already announced, and most of all the other zones are present at the RPG. So no, I don't believe it's real.--Lon-ami (talk) 10:18, 7 July 2009 (UTC)


Queen Azshara anyone? She's in the lore, and naga have been out of the mainframe for far too long. Put her in a patch pre-expansion release. Maybe at the end of her fight, a possible lead to.. dare i say it? Sargeras. Bam. Next expansion, "Sargeras Kingdom."Seight (talk) 10:01, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

Not Sargeras, but Avatar of Sargeras could be a good possibility. During Illidan's trip for the Eye of Sargeras, Vashj finds the corpse and tells Azshara. They recover it and resurrect it.
Actually, Neptulon could be a good boss, bu he's still imprisoned in the Elemental Plane.
Something should happen for him to be freed. Remember Ragnaros: his summoning destroyed a big part of the Redridge Mountains, creating Burning Steppes and Searing Gorge around its epicenter: Blackrock Mountain.
What if… the cataclysm is that, someone, somehow, breaks the prison of the elemental lieutenants? We could travel there. The Elemental Plane could end up being just a big zone, where elementals wage for war.
I imagine Neptulon and Al’Akir working together to create a giga-storm or something like that, and Therazane remaining at the Elemental Plane to keep us entertained. Ragnaros could make a small appearance, too, weakened by his defeat at Molten Core.
Then, they could try to free an Old God, one near Stranglethorn, and succeed. After that, we would defeat them and Azshara would start her Sargeras operation, and work as the final boss, with a lot of demons.
This would indeed make Azshara the final boss, having "betrayed" the Old Gods by summoning armies of demons once again. With the aid of the reborn avatar of Sargeras, that would be more than possible: just remember Aegwynn and the Dragon Hunt.
And, while I don't like it, would bring the perfect excuse for raising Nazjatar from the sea floor, since, well, demons don't breathe underwater.
Also, I don’t consider this a boss, but Obrahiim, the Traveler, a scourge architect, creator of Naxxramas, got lost after going to research the ruins of Zin-Azshari.
He would be the perfect leader for a force of undead around the South Seas, or just the Broken Isles. You know what would be awesome?
A new necropolis, better than his best creation, Naxxramas, with naga (NE ruins) architecture. It would be just simply awesome.
He could gather an army pretty easily. Take his minions, with more than one powerful being between its ranks, watching over his research, and then add all the undead orcs of the second war.
Also, the Kvaldir would have the perfect excuse for being around the South Seas. Give them the leadership of their greatest leader, or just one great leader, and that’s all.
There you have: A new enemy force kicking our asses with its awesomeness.--Lon-ami (talk) 11:12, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
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