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What the heck? Original research much? - [[User:LucidFox|LucidFox]] ([[User talk:LucidFox|talk]]) 07:56, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
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:Brute transfert of the real life [[wikipedia:Taiga|Taiga]] with no Warcraft source.
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<ref>[[Encounter Journal]]</ref>
 
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:I would say deletion is in order
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:{{User:A'noob/sig}} 08:29, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
   
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::its observational data from wow itself. if you look at all of the forest north of a certain point the trees are Coniferous, this is the definition of a boreal forest.
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::[[User:Seven44|Seven44]] ([[User talk:Seven44|talk]]) 08:39, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
   
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:::Observed yes, but sadly this is not enough and only based on something taken in real life.
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*[[User:Ashbear160/Raohurs Thistlepaw]]
 
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:::Wow does not follow the same pattern: killer whale with horns, intelligent raptors, etc....
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:::{{User:A'noob/sig}} 08:45, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
   
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what if I just renamed the whole article 'Forests of Azeroth', is that warcraftian enough for you?
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===Ashendant fan character===
 
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also im not completely ripping off the wikipedia article there's lots to write about that is specifically related to wow. [[User:Seven44|Seven44]] ([[User talk:Seven44|talk]]) 08:51, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
   
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:What's your source for that it's "15°N to 70°N" of Azeroth? Why are they named "taiga" and "boreal forest"? Do you have some basis for that that is connected to Warcraft? It's just terms right from Wikipedia. --{{User:Gourra/Sig2}} 08:55, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
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*{{RaceIconExt|DragonBlack}}Rarthorian
 
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A young black drake, son of onyxia, he held the chaotic ways of the black dragons as a repulsive and disgusting act of insanity, and wants to leave the embrace of it's cruel family of loonies for something more, kept secret for if it was revealed we would be killed on the spot, during the Varian's expedition, beneath the mantle of chaos he made his escape, and started to embrace it's freedom.
 
   
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::look at the model of Azeroth you can see from outland, if you applied degrees of longitude and latitude to the planet that is where the coniferous forests of Azeroth are located. [[User:Seven44|Seven44]] ([[User talk:Seven44|talk]]) 09:00, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
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*{{RaceIcon|Dwarf|Male}}Gilneas Brown
 
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An ancient dwarf archaeologist, after years of following artefacts all over azeroth he found a lead that could end his search for the Crystal skull, an titan artefact famous for it's ability to nuke the undead, after months at an archaeological site in the thunder bluff, he was killed just when he removed the dust of the top of the crystalline cranium, his body covering the skull forever, while the tauren covered the holes with dirt and dwarf bodies.
 
   
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:::What makes it that geographically correct? Do you have any basis on what is the ABSOLUTE north and south? Again, there's no basis that it's actually called "taiga" or "boreal forest". --{{User:Gourra/Sig2}} 09:23, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
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*{{RaceIconExt|DireFurbolg}}Raohurs Thistlepaw
 
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:::Edit: I saw that you renamed it "Coniferious forest" (which I guess is a misspelling of "Coniferous forest"), based on [[wikipedia:Temperate coniferous forest|Temperate coniferous forest]]. Again, no basis. --{{User:Gourra/Sig2}} 09:25, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
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A furbolg born of an thistlefur female and a foulweald male, corrupted rape, he was a unloved child by his mother, although the opposite wasn't true, his mother was killed by the Dreamstalker while he was still a child, the green drake, ever since he holds a grudge against the dragonkind, and has grown into a powerful ursa totemic, he has already killed a green, blue, red and black dragon(the bronze are too hidden for him), he's now hunting down a twilight dragon that stole the mementos of his mother and the dragons he killed, if he would succeed only time will tell, but he still hunts the Dreamstalker from this day on.
 
   
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:Why are we even discussing? this article does not belong here
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A Sporelok that was saved by a human adventurer of azeroth using the light, from the hungry fungal giants, since his birth he idolates he travelled to shatar, and learned from the aldor on how to harness the light, constantly dreaming of going to azeroth an be a hero like it's saviour, however as he passed trough the portal of the sunwell, he saw a what he dreamt a strange new world needing heroes, filled adventures, but not all of these adventures were joyous trips and not all of them were horrible tortures, and has he slowly learn the one that saved him, might be it's worst enemy.
 
   
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[[Smotts' Compass]] this proof that there are compasses in wow and a compass would not work without polarity of north and south, also the names of places speak for themselves, like NORTHrend and the SOUTH seas. its all very clear. [[User:Seven44|Seven44]] ([[User talk:Seven44|talk]]) 09:33, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
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An geyser elemental an abyssal templar under the service of a elemental lord, he has the mission of recovering a set of important artefacts, however he was captured by a powerful female Gnome mage Maskala that his forced to obey his every command, stopped from his mission the elemental lords grows impatient, and he fears the repercussions, and has so he found a way to trick maskala into continuing his mission under the promise of power, but the gnomish woman is not to be taken lightly, and as we find whos in real control, we find who his the smarter the Ancient elemental Tritonus, or the young power-hungry but good gnomish woman Maskala.
 
   
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:I didn't say that there's a north and south, I'm questioning what you think some points of the planet are the south and north "pole". --{{User:Gourra/Sig2}} 09:35, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
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A former highborne painter, that was cursed into a naga forever cursing his queen for his inability to paint.
 
   
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Degrees of latitude and longitude arn't based upon magnetic poles (which change over time) they are based upon hemispheres which correspond to the rotational axis. There is no way you could argue that the top part of Azeroth isn't the Northern hemisphere. [[User:Seven44|Seven44]] ([[User talk:Seven44|talk]]) 09:40, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
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A orc born very weak from a family of exceptional fighters, bullied since childhood by all the other orcs, and assigned as a peon since very young in his adolescence, when he was twenty he was assigned to repair undercity, while the kor'kon guard supervised the forsaken recovery after the battle with varimatrhas and putress, and quickly pointed out the problems and solutions the forsaken couldn't fix while researching new plagues, and proved to have a inhert talent to biogenetics which the forsaken quickly hired him as fast as possible from the guard, and advanced the forsaken understanding of biogenetics, by leaps and bounds, nowadays he's trying to create worgen cursed-silithid hive-dragonflight.
 
   
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:I didn't say magnetic poles, I meant geographical poles (which should be obvious to you, unless you want to make this even more aggravating). Latitude and longitude are based on an equator (based on the Wikipedia description: "latitude of a location on the Earth is the angular distance of that location south or north of the Equator.") There's no such thing described as an equator on Azeroth, and as such you cannot use latitude and longitude in Azeroth. What you're trying to do is putting a real life phenomenon onto a fantasy world, based on guesses and observations and no basis. --{{User:Gourra/Sig2}} 09:45, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
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A powerfull necromancer that had above average ability to create undead(topic), famous for rising hundreds of incredible heroes(good topics) and pustulent horrors(bad topics) for the scourge(scrolls of lore forums).
 
   
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many of the articles written on this site discuss wow as being observed from outside of the warcraft universe and for this reason employ terms and concepts that do not appear in warcraft, terms borrowed from our own universe. these are often terms and concepts never mentioned by Blizzard. The fact that Azeroth is a planet implies that it has an equator much in the same way that it is implied that humans in warcraft have a large intestine even though its not specifically stated. [[User:Seven44|Seven44]] ([[User talk:Seven44|talk]]) 09:59, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
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*{{RaceIconExt|NagaSeaWitch}}{{RaceIconExt|NagaLord}}Lady Evadne and Lord Aon(i picked the names from poseidon's son)
 
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Naga Twins born from in high aristocracy, they are both anomalies, Evadne was born with the skin of a sea cucumber and has high resistance to magic, Aon was born with a thousand spines like a sea urchin, since they reached maturity they rose quickly trough the ranks of the queen's domain racing to the top for the queen's attention.
 
   
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:Terms are borrowed. And when they are, we make articles about it. This one in particular hasnt. Thats the end of it. [[User:Warthok|Warthok]] ([[User talk:Warthok|talk]]) 10:08, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
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*{{RaceIcon|IceTroll|Female}}Arctha, Student of loas
 
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A rare breed of troll, daughter of a powerfull Drakkari troll who raped a Sandfury female, she was saved later by a passing night elf druid, who was studying why the world tree in grizzly hills failed, from a decade of child condimentation by his father, brought, her to the shatterspear tribe to be raised, she was raised as a druid, inspired by her mother prayer's to the sandfury loas, and the drakkari loas enforced half a decade after her mother was eaten by her mate, and much later during her training as a druid of the shatterspear their loas and the proximity to moonglade of the night elf's ancient, she made her life-long goal to study every loa and ancient in the world and classify it, crafting a totem's representing each one with the inscriptions on the back with all the information she gathered about them.
 
   
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http://www.wowpedia.org/Taiga_Bindings here is proof the term exists in WoW [[User:Seven44|Seven44]] ([[User talk:Seven44|talk]]) 10:27, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
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The lesser know of the elemental lords and given little importance in the scheme of themes as he is more nurturing to the sapient races than the other elemental lords, know has the Knight of lactic acid, the Walker of the milky way, and the Lord of the molten cheese, he lives in his realm, the great cheese in the sky which is the moon of the elemental realm, where rivers of milk cataracts fall into pits of molten cheese, and everyday a new piece of dairy product is made to be given to the lesser races if the lord so approves.
 
   
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[[File:Khazogoroth_playing_tetris.jpg|thumb|250px|Fun]]
 
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:Where is the evidence that "Taiga" is not the name of someone?
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:When you don't know, don't assume too much
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Source

What the heck? Original research much? - LucidFox (talk) 07:56, 2 December 2011 (UTC)

Brute transfert of the real life Taiga with no Warcraft source.
I would say deletion is in order
IconSmall Hamuul Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (talk/contribz) 08:29, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
its observational data from wow itself. if you look at all of the forest north of a certain point the trees are Coniferous, this is the definition of a boreal forest.
Seven44 (talk) 08:39, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
Observed yes, but sadly this is not enough and only based on something taken in real life.
Wow does not follow the same pattern: killer whale with horns, intelligent raptors, etc....
IconSmall Hamuul Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (talk/contribz) 08:45, 2 December 2011 (UTC)

what if I just renamed the whole article 'Forests of Azeroth', is that warcraftian enough for you? also im not completely ripping off the wikipedia article there's lots to write about that is specifically related to wow. Seven44 (talk) 08:51, 2 December 2011 (UTC)

What's your source for that it's "15°N to 70°N" of Azeroth? Why are they named "taiga" and "boreal forest"? Do you have some basis for that that is connected to Warcraft? It's just terms right from Wikipedia. --g0urra[T҂C] 08:55, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
look at the model of Azeroth you can see from outland, if you applied degrees of longitude and latitude to the planet that is where the coniferous forests of Azeroth are located. Seven44 (talk) 09:00, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
What makes it that geographically correct? Do you have any basis on what is the ABSOLUTE north and south? Again, there's no basis that it's actually called "taiga" or "boreal forest". --g0urra[T҂C] 09:23, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
Edit: I saw that you renamed it "Coniferious forest" (which I guess is a misspelling of "Coniferous forest"), based on Temperate coniferous forest. Again, no basis. --g0urra[T҂C] 09:25, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
Why are we even discussing? this article does not belong here
IconSmall Hamuul Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (talk/contribz) 09:26, 2 December 2011 (UTC)

Inv misc pocketwatch 02 [Smotts' Compass] this proof that there are compasses in wow and a compass would not work without polarity of north and south, also the names of places speak for themselves, like NORTHrend and the SOUTH seas. its all very clear. Seven44 (talk) 09:33, 2 December 2011 (UTC)

I didn't say that there's a north and south, I'm questioning what you think some points of the planet are the south and north "pole". --g0urra[T҂C] 09:35, 2 December 2011 (UTC)

Degrees of latitude and longitude arn't based upon magnetic poles (which change over time) they are based upon hemispheres which correspond to the rotational axis. There is no way you could argue that the top part of Azeroth isn't the Northern hemisphere. Seven44 (talk) 09:40, 2 December 2011 (UTC)

I didn't say magnetic poles, I meant geographical poles (which should be obvious to you, unless you want to make this even more aggravating). Latitude and longitude are based on an equator (based on the Wikipedia description: "latitude of a location on the Earth is the angular distance of that location south or north of the Equator.") There's no such thing described as an equator on Azeroth, and as such you cannot use latitude and longitude in Azeroth. What you're trying to do is putting a real life phenomenon onto a fantasy world, based on guesses and observations and no basis. --g0urra[T҂C] 09:45, 2 December 2011 (UTC)

many of the articles written on this site discuss wow as being observed from outside of the warcraft universe and for this reason employ terms and concepts that do not appear in warcraft, terms borrowed from our own universe. these are often terms and concepts never mentioned by Blizzard. The fact that Azeroth is a planet implies that it has an equator much in the same way that it is implied that humans in warcraft have a large intestine even though its not specifically stated. Seven44 (talk) 09:59, 2 December 2011 (UTC)

Terms are borrowed. And when they are, we make articles about it. This one in particular hasnt. Thats the end of it. Warthok (talk) 10:08, 2 December 2011 (UTC)

http://www.wowpedia.org/Taiga_Bindings here is proof the term exists in WoW Seven44 (talk) 10:27, 2 December 2011 (UTC)

Let's be silly!
Where is the evidence that "Taiga" is not the name of someone?
When you don't know, don't assume too much
IconSmall Hamuul Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (talk/contribz) 10:34, 2 December 2011 (UTC)

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  1. Delete IconSmall Hamuul Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (talk/contribz) 22:45, 2 December 2011 (UTC) - (Nominated)
  2. Delete SWM2448 22:45, 2 December 2011 (UTC) - (Seconded)
  3. Delete Dark T Zeratul (talk) 22:48, 2 December 2011 (UTC) - (We don't need to define real-world terms here.)
  4. Delete SnakeSssssssssssssssssssssssss Coobra sig3For Pony! (Sssss/Slithered) 23:06, 2 December 2011 (UTC) - (Really doesn't require a vote.. this has no source.)

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