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Sorry if i'm undoing what you did but i'm using the [[Demigod]] as a basis for what is a demigod or not if something there is proven to not be a demigod, feel free to remove both entries--[[User:Ashbear160|Ashbear160]] ([[User talk:Ashbear160|talk]]) 01:33, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
  
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The following [[NPC]]s can be found in [[Deepholm]].
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:Yeah, I know. But I keep looking at that page, and it's in serious need of some cleanup, including citations. For now, rather than just going directly off that page, let's stick to individuals that are explicitly confirmed to be gods or demigods. If you're not sure, don't add them. -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] ([[User talk:Dark T Zeratul|talk]]) 01:36, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
  
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::Titans are demigods that im absolutely sure
  
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::"Alliance Player's Guide says that they are akin to gods. Shadows & Light states that they are demigods.[11]"
  
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::That is unless 2 references are wrong--[[User:Ashbear160|Ashbear160]] ([[User talk:Ashbear160|talk]]) 01:40, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
  
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:::"Akin to gods" doesn't mean demigod. Remember, we're not using the dictionary definition of demigod, we're using the Warcraft definition of demigod, which means that unless something is specifically said to be a demigod, it's probably not. With respect to Shadows & Light, I'd love to see the exact wording on that. Blizzard has stated several times, in no uncertain terms, that the Titans are not gods. It seems very strange then that they would even be demigods. -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] ([[User talk:Dark T Zeratul|talk]]) 01:43, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
  
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::::I can ask in scrolls of lore, here http://www.scrollsoflore.com/forums/showthread.php?p=258178#post258178--[[User:Ashbear160|Ashbear160]] ([[User talk:Ashbear160|talk]]) 01:47, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
  
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:Have 3 problem
  
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:-Shadow ascendant are considered loas but are nots deities, i assume not in this template
  
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:-Loa might be to huge so we could divide it into the respective pantheon but might become too long
  
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:-Not a problem But the Four Drakkari Gods are Never stated to be loas and act in a total different way, but where do i put them?(i suspect that one of them is elune but that's beside the point)
  
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Can you give me a answer?--[[User:Ashbear160|Ashbear160]] ([[User talk:Ashbear160|talk]]) 02:05, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
  
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:-Another Point Ula-tek is never called a loa, and she more pointed towards being a old god than a loa.
  
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--[[User:Ashbear160|Ashbear160]] ([[User talk:Ashbear160|talk]]) 02:08, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
  
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::1. Shadow Ascendants are sometimes worshiped as loa by trolls, but they are not loa.
  
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::2. Let's see HOW huge it is. I'm pretty sure there's fewer than you think.
  
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::3. They're loa. Elune is not a loa. She is a god.
  
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::4. The "Old God" bit for Ula-Tek is speculation. Remember, the RPG also "speculated" that Teron Gorefiend was in Karazhan. For now, put her with the loa.
  
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::-- [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] ([[User talk:Dark T Zeratul|talk]]) 02:23, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
  
   
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== Questgivers ==
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:3.They are never called loa, although they didn't have problems with calling everybody else a Loa, they are ALWAYS mentioned as Gods(speculation with elune is derived from her being exactly described like elune)
  
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==={{Alliance Icon}} Alliance ===
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:4.It's just that calling her a Loa is avoided, and she's specificily speculated to be either a old god or old god related, if she was a loa they would at least have stated that she could also be a loa but she isn't--[[User:Ashbear160|Ashbear160]] ([[User talk:Ashbear160|talk]]) 02:34, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
  
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* {{RaceIcon|Gnome|Female|Small}}{{NPC|Alliance|Explorer Mowi|Explorers' League}}
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** {{questlong|Alliance|83|The Twilight Plot}}
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*** {{questlong|Alliance|83|Decryption Made Easy}}
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**** {{questlong|Alliance|83|The Wrong Sequence}}
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***** {{questlong|Alliance|83|That's No Pyramid!}}
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* {{RaceIcon|Wildhammer|Female|Small}}{{NPC|Alliance|Prospector Brewer|Explorers' League}}
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** {{questlong|Alliance|83|Fly Over}}
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*** {{questlong|Alliance|83|Fight Fire and Water and Air with...}}
   
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==={{Horde Icon}} Horde ===
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:Ok, i'm done, feel free to change anything you might seem fit, i renamed the last one because not all of them were demigods and were gods instead--[[User:Ashbear160|Ashbear160]] ([[User talk:Ashbear160|talk]]) 02:47, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
  
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* {{RaceIcon|Undead|Male|Small}}{{NPC|Horde|Examiner Rowe|The Reliquary}}
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::Titans are demigods
  
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** {{questlong|Horde|83|The Twilight Plot}}
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::"Few scholars actually believe the mighty demigods even existed."--[[User:Ashbear160|Ashbear160]] ([[User talk:Ashbear160|talk]]) 02:49, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
  
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*** {{questlong|Horde|83|Decryption Made Easy}}
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**** {{questlong|Horde|83|The Wrong Sequence}}
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***** {{questlong|Horde|83|That's No Pyramid!}}
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* {{RaceIcon|BloodElf|Female|Small}}{{NPC|Horde|Reliquary Jes'ca Darksun|The Reliquary}}
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** {{questlong|Horde|83|Fly Over}}
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*** {{questlong|Horde|83|Fight Fire and Water and Air with...}}
   
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==={{Neutral Icon}} Neutral ===
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:I renamed the last category to Other because i don't need to restate the name of the article that's just dumb, and moved Ula-Tek to other, she speculated by "word of god" to be a old god but never confirmed as such, she speculated by players to be a Loa but never called that, so when in doubt put in other.--[[User:Ashbear160|Ashbear160]] ([[User talk:Ashbear160|talk]]) 02:53, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
  
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* {{RaceIcon|Mag'har|Female|Small}}{{NPC|Neutral|Aggra}}
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** {{questlong|Neutral|85|Elemental Bonds: Patience}}
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*** {{questlong|Neutral|85|Into Unrelenting Flame}}
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* {{RaceIconExt|Earth|Small}}{{NPC|Neutral|Berracite}}
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** {{questlong|Neutral|83|Putting the Pieces Together}}
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* {{RaceIconExt|Colossus|Small}}{{NPC|Neutral|Boden the Imposing}}
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** {{questlong|Neutral|83|The Twilight Flight}}
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* [[File:inv_misc_book_08.png|18px]]{{NPC|Neutral|Captain's Log}}
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** {{questlong|Neutral|82|Captain's Log}}
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* {{RaceIconExt|EarthenNorth|Small}}{{NPC|Neutral|Clay Mudaxle|Engineer}}
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** {{questlong|Neutral|82|Fixer Upper}}
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*** {{questlong|Neutral|83|Rush Delivery}}
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* {{RaceIconExt|EarthenNorth|Small}}{{NPC|Neutral|Crag Rockcrusher}}
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** {{questlong|Neutral|82|The Quaking Fields}}
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*** {{questlong|Neutral|82|Stonefather's Boon}}
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**** {{questlong|Neutral|82|Sealing the Way}}
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* {{RaceIconExt|Colossus|Small}}{{NPC|Neutral|Diamant the Patient}}
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** {{questlong|Neutral|83|Hatred Runs Deep}}
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** {{questlong|Neutral|83|Unsolid Ground}}
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*** {{questlong|Neutral|83|Violent Gale}}
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**** {{questlong|Neutral|83|Depth of the Depths}}
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***** {{questlong|Neutral|83|Entrenched}}
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* {{RaceIconExt|EarthenNorth|Small}}{{NPC|Neutral|Earthbreaker Dolomite}}
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** {{questlong|Neutral|82|We're Surrounded}}
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*** {{questlong|Neutral|82|Thunder Stones}}
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* {{RaceIcon|Troll|Male|Small}}{{NPC|Neutral|Earthcaller Torunscar|The Earthen Ring}}
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** {{questlong|Neutral|83|Crumbling Defenses}}
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** {{questlong|Neutral|83|On Even Ground}}
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*** {{questlong|Neutral|83|Rallying the Earthen Ring}}
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* {{RaceIcon|Draenei|Female|Small}}{{NPC|Neutral|Earthcaller Yevaa}}
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** {{questlong|Neutral|82|Where's Goldmine?}}
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*** {{questlong|Neutral|82|To Stonehearth's Aid}}
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** {{questlong|Alliance|83|The Explorers}}
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** {{questlong|Horde|83|The Reliquary}}
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* {{RaceIconExt|EarthenNorth|Small}}{{NPC|Neutral|Earthmender Deepvein|Medic}}
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** {{questlong|Neutral|82|Battlefront Triage}}
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* {{RaceIcon|Troll|Female|Small}}{{NPC|Neutral|Earthmender Norsala|The Earthen Ring}}
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** {{questlong|Neutral|83|Core of Our Troubles}}
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*** {{questlong|Neutral|83|Imposing Confrontation}}
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**** {{questlong|Neutral|83|Rocky Relations}}
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* {{RaceIconExt|Colossus|Small}}{{NPC|Neutral|Felsen the Enduring}}
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** {{questlong|Neutral|83Y|Beneath the Surface}} (Daily)
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** {{questlong|Neutral|83Y|Fear of Boring}} (Daily)
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** {{questlong|Neutral|83Y|Motes}} (Daily)
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* {{RaceIcon|Human|Male|Small}}{{NPC|Neutral|First Mate Moody}}
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** {{questlong|Neutral|82|Without a Captain or Crew}}
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* {{RaceIconExt|EarthenNorth|Small}}{{NPC|Neutral|Flint Oremantle|Son of the Stonefather}}
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** {{questlong|Neutral|83|Mystic Masters}}
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* [[File:inv_misc_book_09.png|18px]]{{NPC|Neutral|Forgemaster's Log}}
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** {{questlong|Neutral|82|Silvermarsh Rendezvous}}
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* [[File:inv_jewelcrafting_talasite_02.png|18px]]{{NPC|Neutral|Gigantic Painite Cluster}}
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** {{questlong|Neutral|82|A Rock Amongst Many}}
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* {{RaceIconExt|Colossus|Small}}{{NPC|Neutral|Gorsik the Tumultuous}}
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** {{questlong|Neutral|83|Doomshrooms}}
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** {{questlong|Neutral|83|Familiar Intruders}}
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** {{questlong|Neutral|83|Gone Soft}}
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*** {{questlong|Neutral|83|Corruption Destruction}}
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*** {{questlong|Neutral|83|Shaken and Stirred}}
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**** {{questlong|Neutral|83|At the Stonemother's Call}}
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***** {{questlong|Neutral|83Y|Fungal Fury}} (Daily)
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***** {{questlong|Neutral|83Y|Soft Rock}} (Daily)
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* {{RaceIconExt|EarthenNorth|Small}}{{NPC|Neutral|Gravel Longslab}}
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** {{questlong|Neutral|82|Shatter Them!}}
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*** {{questlong|Neutral|83|Troggzor the Earthinator}}
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* {{RaceIcon|BloodElf|Female|Small}}{{NPC|Neutral|High Priestess Lorthuna}} (Elite)
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** {{questlong|Neutral|83|The Binding}}
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* {{RaceIcon|Goblin|Male|Small}}{{NPC|Neutral|Initiate Goldmine}}
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** {{questlong|Neutral|82|Explosive Bonding Compound}}
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** {{questlong|Neutral|82|Something that Burns}}
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*** {{questlong|Neutral|82|Apply and Flash Dry}}
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**** {{questlong|Neutral|82|Take Him to the Earthcaller}}
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* {{RaceIconExt|Colossus|Small}}{{NPC|Neutral|Kor the Immovable}}
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** {{questlong|Neutral|83|Intervention}}
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** {{questlong|Neutral|83|Making Things Crystal Clear}}
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*** {{questlong|Neutral|83|Pebble}}
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**** {{questlong|Neutral|83|Petrified Delicacies}}
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**** {{questlong|Neutral|83|Rock Bottom}}
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***** {{questlong|Neutral|83|Rocky Upheaval}}
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***** {{questlong|Neutral|83|Steady Hand}}
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* {{RaceIcon|Tauren|Male|Small}}{{NPC|Neutral|Maruut Stonebinder}}
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** {{questlong|Neutral|82|Gunship Down}}
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*** {{questlong|Neutral|82|Diplomacy First}}
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**** {{questlong|Neutral|82|Deathwing's Fall}}
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***** {{questlong|Neutral|82|Bleed the Bloodshaper}}
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****** {{questlong|Neutral|82|Question the Slaves}}
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******* {{questlong|Neutral|82|The Forgemaster's Log}}
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******** {{questlong|Neutral|82|Quicksilver Submersion}}
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********* {{questlong|Neutral|82|The Twilight Overlook}}
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********** {{questlong|Neutral|83|The Very Earth Beneath Our Feet}}
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*********** {{questlong|Neutral|83|Our Part of the Bargain}}
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************ {{questlong|Neutral|83|Undying Twilight}}
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* [[File:inv_misc_book_04.png|18px]]{{NPC|Neutral|Maziel's Journal}}
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** {{questlong|Neutral|82|Maziel's Ascendancy}}
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* [[File:inv_misc_note_06.png|18px]]{{NPC|Neutral|Maziel's Research}}
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** {{questlong|Neutral|82|Twilight Research}}
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* {{RaceIconExt|EarthenNorth|Small}}{{NPC|Neutral|Peak Grindstone|Catapult Driver}}
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** {{questlong|Neutral|83|Close Escort}}
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* {{RaceIconExt|Earth|Small}}{{NPC|Neutral|Pebble}}
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** {{questlong|Neutral|83|Clingy}}
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*** {{questlong|Neutral|83|So Big, So Round...}}
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* {{RaceIconExt|RevenantEarth|Small}}{{NPC|Neutral|Pyrite Stonetender}}
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** {{questlong|Neutral|83Y|Lost In The Deeps}} (Daily)
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* {{RaceIconExt|EarthenNorth|Small}}{{NPC|Neutral|Pyrium Lodestone|Catapult Chief}}
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** {{questlong|Neutral|83|Keep Them off the Front}}
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*** {{questlong|Neutral|83|Reactivate the Constructs}}
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**** {{questlong|Neutral|83|Down Into the Chasm}}
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***** {{questlong|Neutral|83|Rescue the Stonefather... and Flint}}
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****** {{questlong|Neutral|83|The Hero Returns}}
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* {{RaceIconExt|RevenantEarth|Small}}{{NPC|Neutral|Quartz Stonetender}}
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** {{questlong|Neutral|83|Loose Stones}}
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* {{RaceIcon|Goblin|Female|Small}}{{NPC|Neutral|Ricket}}
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** {{questlong|Neutral|83Y|Underground Economy}} (Daily)
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* {{RaceIconExt|Colossus|Small}}{{NPC|Neutral|Ruberick}}
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** {{questlong|Neutral|83|Wrath of the Fungalmancer}}
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*** {{questlong|Neutral|83Y|Glop, Son of Glop}} (Daily)
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*** {{questlong|Neutral|83Y|Through Persistence}} (Daily)
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* {{RaceIcon|Orc|Male|Small}}{{NPC|Neutral|Seer Galekk}}
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** {{questlong|Neutral|82|Block the Gates}}
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* {{RaceIcon|Broken|Male|Small}}{{NPC|Neutral|Seer Kormo}}
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** {{questlong|Neutral|82|Elemental Energy}}
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** {{questlong|Neutral|82|The Earth Claims All}}
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*** {{questlong|Neutral|82|Blood of the Earthwarder}}
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**** {{questlong|Neutral|82|Maziel's Revelation}}
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* {{RaceIconExt|EarthenNorth|Small}}{{NPC|Neutral|Slate Quicksand|Arch Geomancer}}
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** {{questlong|Neutral|82|Elemental Ore}}
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** {{questlong|Neutral|82|The Axe of Earthly Sundering}}
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*** {{questlong|Neutral|82|One With the Ground}}
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**** {{questlong|Neutral|82|Bring Down the Avalanche}}
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***** {{questlong|Neutral|82|Fungal Monstrosities}}
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***** {{questlong|Neutral|82|Sprout No More}}
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****** {{questlong|Neutral|82|A Slight Problem}}
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* {{RaceIconExt|EarthenNorth|Small}}{{NPC|Neutral|Stonefather Oremantle|Leader of the Earthen}}
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** {{questlong|Neutral|83|The Middle Fragment}}
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* {{RaceIcon|Wildhammer|Female|Small}}{{NPC|Neutral|Stormcaller Mylra}}
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** {{questlong|Neutral|82|All Our Friends Are Dead}}
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** {{questlong|Neutral|82|The Admiral's Cabin}}
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*** {{questlong|Neutral|82|Take No Prisoners}}
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*** {{questlong|Neutral|82|On Second Thought, Take One Prisoner}}
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**** {{questlong|Neutral|82|Some Spraining to Do}}
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***** {{questlong|Neutral|82|Return to the Temple of Earth}}
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****** {{questlong|Neutral|82|Big Game, Big Bait}}
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****** {{questlong|Neutral|82|To Catch a Dragon}}
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****** {{questlong|Neutral|83D|Into the Stonecore}} (Dungeon: [[The Stonecore]])
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******* {{questlong|Neutral|82|Testing the Trap}}
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******** {{questlong|Neutral|82|Abyssion's Minions}}
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********* {{questlong|Neutral|82|The World Pillar Fragment}}
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* {{RaceIconExt|Colossus|Small}}{{NPC|Neutral|Terrath the Steady}}
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** {{questlong|Neutral|83|Don't. Stop. Moving.}}
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*** {{questlong|Neutral|83|Fragile Values}}
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*** {{questlong|Neutral|83|Hard Falls}}
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**** {{questlong|Neutral|83|Resonating Blow}}
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***** {{questlong|Neutral|83Y|The Restless Brood}} (Daily)
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* {{RaceIconExt|EarthLord|Small}}{{NPC|Neutral|Therazane|The Stonemother}}
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** {{questlong|Neutral|83|Audience with the Stonemother}}
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*** {{questlong|Neutral|83|The Stone March}}
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*** {{questlong|Neutral|83|Therazane's Mercy}}
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**** {{questlong|Neutral|83|Word In Stone}}
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***** {{questlong|Neutral|83|The Stone Throne}}
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** {{questlong|Neutral|84D|Wayward Child}} (Dungeon: [[The Stonecore]])
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* {{RaceIcon|Draenei|Male|Small}}{{NPC|Neutral|Windspeaker Lorvarius|The Earthen Ring}}
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** {{questlong|Neutral|83|A Head Full of Wind}}
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*** {{questlong|Neutral|83|Unnatural Causes}}
   
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== Class Trainers ==
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Also, one more thing. Stop putting the Earthmother in here unless you can provide a clear citation that she is, in fact, a deity. -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] ([[User talk:Dark T Zeratul|talk]]) 03:16, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
  
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:Earthmother is not the deity in this case she's more of the group of deities that make the earthmother belief according to the tauren, Mu'sha/Elune is one of her eyes, Anshe the sun god is another, remains to be seen what the blue child is to her, I however do not know how to list the Sky Father--[[User:Ashbear160|Ashbear160]] ([[User talk:Ashbear160|talk]]) 03:23, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
  
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::An'she and Mu'sha are not deities. The tauren see Elune as a representation of Mu'sha; that does not mean that Elune *IS* Mu'sha. Anyway, I've reorganized the template. Please don't undo this; there is a reason why I organized it this way, specifically to split up gods and demigods which shouldn't just be lumped together under "other." The differences between gods and demigods in the Warcraft universe are very important and the distinction should be maintained.
  
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::I've also removed a lot of names from the template, primarily those that were described as spirits or simply being worshiped as a god without actually being one. If you want to add any other names to the template, please discuss them here first. -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] ([[User talk:Dark T Zeratul|talk]]) 03:37, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
  
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::I don't think the differences are very important but it doesn't matter
  
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::I think Issliruk, Karkut and Tayutka are either loas or ancient guardians but it's never claimed so meh.
  
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::Elune and Mu'sha are indeed claimed to be one and the same in the Aponi/Tahu Conversation
  
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::There's the thing that the Earthmother, the Deep Mother and the Sky Father still need to be addressed
  
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::And we could probably a small section called either Ascended mortal or Deified Mortals--[[User:Ashbear160|Ashbear160]] ([[User talk:Ashbear160|talk]]) 03:58, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
  
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:::The Earthmother, Deep Mother, and Sky Father would be addressed in the Religion template, as that's what they are. They're not gods. As for ascended and deified mortals, the point of the templates is not to give every single bit of information, but to provide easy navigation between them. That kind of specific information can be found on the [[demigods]] page, and that's good enough. -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] ([[User talk:Dark T Zeratul|talk]]) 04:50, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
  
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:Err Xavious and Azshara are Ancients apparently and all ancients are demigods...--[[User:Ashbear160|Ashbear160]] ([[User talk:Ashbear160|talk]]) 13:40, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
  
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::And i think the dark ancients are important to add--[[User:Ashbear160|Ashbear160]] ([[User talk:Ashbear160|talk]]) 13:41, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
  
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:::http://www.wowpedia.org/Staff_of_Sorcerer-Thane_Thaurissan Ragnaros is a demigod so i's not a long shot to consider other elemental lords a demigod--[[User:Ashbear160|Ashbear160]] ([[User talk:Ashbear160|talk]]) 14:10, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
  
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Xavius and Azshara are '''eternals''', not ancients. Just because Ragnaros is considered a demigod by at least Thaurissan, doesn't mean that the other elemental lords are demigods. And what's these "dark ancients" that you speak of? --{{User:Gourra/Sig2}} 14:21, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
  
   
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== Profession (Tradeskill) Trainers ==
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::That's practically nonsensical since they are the same type of being
 
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::Xavious and azshara are in the ancient guardian pages
  
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::Dark ancients are Lycanthoth and Nemesis, they are stated to be dark versions of the demigods and called false gods(because they are impersonating other gods)--[[User:Ashbear160|Ashbear160]] ([[User talk:Ashbear160|talk]]) 14:29, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
  
   
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==Merchants==
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:[[Arkkoroc]] is said to be a "smaller deity" and only assumed to be a "sea giant god". I say we should remove him.
  
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==={{Alliance Icon}} Alliance ===
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:{{User:A'noob/sig}} 16:53, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
  
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* {{RaceIcon|Gnome|Male|Small}}{{NPC|Alliance|Dugsley Deepdelver|Engineering Supplies}}
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* {{RaceIcon|Dwarf|Female|Small}}{{NPC|Alliance|Magdala Copperpick|General Goods}}
   
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=== {{Horde Icon}} Horde===
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::But he's called a deity and that's the point, Altrough there should be a distinction between lesser deities and major deities also going to add Hetaera, since she's stated as a god even if a false one--[[User:Ashbear160|Ashbear160]] ([[User talk:Ashbear160|talk]]) 16:58, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
  
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* {{RaceIcon|Goblin|Female|Small}}{{NPC|Horde|Rixi "The Driller" Bombdigger|Engineering Supplies}}
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:::I agree with Ashbear on the point of Arkkoroc. With regards to Hetaera, by definition a false god is not a god. That's what false means. The Dark Ancients are also not actual Ancients, and thus are not demigods. And PLEASE refer back to where I asked you to discuss other names before simply adding them to the list. It's very annoying when you add simply add them yourself and then we have to remove them. -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] ([[User talk:Dark T Zeratul|talk]]) 18:16, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
  
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* {{RaceIcon|Goblin|Male|Small}}{{NPC|Horde|Varx Hagglemore|General Goods}}
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:"So they've summoned their own wolf god - a perversion of what once was. "Lycanthoth," the corruptor."
  
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:Lycanthoph is a god accordying to this statement
  
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:It can also be assumed that Nemesis is also a god since he was "made" the exact same way Lycanthoph was--[[User:Ashbear160|Ashbear160]] ([[User talk:Ashbear160|talk]]) 18:33, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
  
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::"Twilight's Hammer dreamed of creating their own pantheon of twisted ancients to rule over the land, sea, and air. With you're help, they've all been executed."
  
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::They are stated to be a "Pantheon of twisted Ancients" and ancients are demigods
  
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::I can't say anything about hetaera Since she described as a false god, although she might be one of the Hydra pet gods of the old gods favour, like Aku'mai and Ghar'zilla--[[User:Ashbear160|Ashbear160]] ([[User talk:Ashbear160|talk]]) 18:40, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
  
   
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==={{Neutral Icon}} Neutral ===
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::We should probably start applying this template?--[[User:Ashbear160|Ashbear160]] ([[User talk:Ashbear160|talk]]) 14:25, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
  
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* {{RaceIconExt|UnboundEarth|Small}}{{NPC|Neutral|D'lom the Collector|Therazane Quartermaster}}
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:::I haven't applied the templates to the Gronns, Titans and Loas Articles--[[User:Ashbear160|Ashbear160]] ([[User talk:Ashbear160|talk]]) 16:22, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
  
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* {{RaceIcon|Draenei|Male|Small}}{{NPC|Neutral|Earthmender Doros|Repairs}}
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* {{RaceIcon|Wildhammer|Female|Small}}{{NPC|Neutral|Hegrid Blazewing|General Goods}}
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* {{RaceIconExt|UnboundEarth|Small}}{{NPC|Neutral|Ibdil the Mender|Repairs}}
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* {{RaceIcon|Draenei|Female|Small}}{{NPC|Neutral|Mariahn the Soulcleanser|Reagents Vendor}}
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* {{RaceIconExt|EarthenNorth|Small}}{{NPC|Neutral|Rocky Cliffedge|Weapon Vendor}}
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* {{RaceIconExt|EarthenNorth|Small}}{{NPC|Neutral|Shale Drilldeep|Reagents & Poison Supplies}}
   
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== Various Services ==
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==Weird==
  
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=== {{Alliance Icon}} Alliance===
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It looks weird... i think it would be better if we remove the demigod square, i'll change it and if anybody has any complaints talk here, see if we can work it out--[[User:Ashbear160|Ashbear160]] ([[User talk:Ashbear160|talk]]) 20:02, 13 March 2011 (UTC)
  
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* {{RaceIcon|Dwarf|Male|Small}}{{NPC|Alliance|Mule Driver Ironshod|Stable Master}}
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:...And now we come right back to the reason why I had it set up like that in the first place: there's no longer any distinction made between gods and demigods, and that's a very important distinction to have. -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] ([[User talk:Dark T Zeratul|talk]]) 20:36, 13 March 2011 (UTC)
  
   
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=== {{Horde Icon}} Horde===
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::Does there need to be?, particularly since blizzard interchanges between the terms in the same character.
  
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* {{RaceIcon|Goblin|Male|Small}}{{NPC|Alliance|Beast-Handler Rustclamp|Stable Master}}
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::and aren't the loas and old gods, considered to be gods too? --[[User:Ashbear160|Ashbear160]] ([[User talk:Ashbear160|talk]]) 20:54, 13 March 2011 (UTC)
  
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:::Yes, there needs to be a distinction. Gods and demigods are not the same thing, and very rarely does Blizzard use the terms interchangeably. Old Gods are considered gods. Loa are usually referred to as demigods, with a few exceptions. Either way, removing information for aesthetic reasons is never a good thing. -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] ([[User talk:Dark T Zeratul|talk]]) 21:00, 13 March 2011 (UTC)
  
   
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==={{Neutral Icon}} Neutral ===
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::What are those exceptions in loas, and no, blizzard stamps the term god to anything with a hint of divinity, i didn't remove it for aesthetic reasons, there is no reason to distinguish between the two since blizzard uses the both terms like they don't care. --[[User:Ashbear160|Ashbear160]] ([[User talk:Ashbear160|talk]]) 21:05, 13 March 2011 (UTC)
  
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* {{RaceIcon|Broken|Male|Small}}{{NPC|Neutral|Caretaker Nuunwa|Innkeeper}}
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:::Show me proof that Blizard uses god and demigod interchangeably, because I've not seen it. In fact, the Warcraft Encyclopedia has articles on both explicitly showing that they are not the same thing: [http://www.wow-europe.com/en/info/encyclopedia/417.xml Gods] and [http://www.wow-europe.com/en/info/encyclopedia/369.xml Demigods]. As far as the loa, the one exception I can think of off the top of my head is Hakkar, though I believe the ones in Zul'Drak may be called gods as well. -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] ([[User talk:Dark T Zeratul|talk]]) 21:29, 13 March 2011 (UTC)
  
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:I'm gathering information so wait a while, but i can give some examples:
  
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:Loas are called primal gods, but they are said to be more powerful than elementals, but less than gods, also have they ever been called demigods?
  
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:Lycanthoth is called a wolf god, trough he's called both a Ancient, and made from a demigod.
  
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:Agamaman has been called a primitive boar god.
  
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:Nemesis situation also applies the same as lycanthoth --[[User:Ashbear160|Ashbear160]] ([[User talk:Ashbear160|talk]]) 22:02, 13 March 2011 (UTC)
  
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:Gahrzilla and Grull are worshipped like deities.
  
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:Various ancients and Loas have been also called spirits making it even more confusing.--[[User:Ashbear160|Ashbear160]] ([[User talk:Ashbear160|talk]]) 22:08, 13 March 2011 (UTC)
  
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::You're confusing Lycanthoth with [[Goldrinn]]. --{{User:Gourra/Sig2}} 22:06, 13 March 2011 (UTC)
  
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:::No i'm not, Lycanthoth is called a wolf god http://www.wowhead.com/quest=25272 --[[User:Ashbear160|Ashbear160]] ([[User talk:Ashbear160|talk]]) 22:08, 13 March 2011 (UTC)
  
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:::And apparently Goldrinn is also called a wolf god http://www.wowhead.com/quest=25269--[[User:Ashbear160|Ashbear160]] ([[User talk:Ashbear160|talk]]) 22:10, 13 March 2011 (UTC)
  
   
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== Other Notable NPCs ==
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:I preferred the older version, with Loas and Old Gods with their own section. The "Gods" field was clearly a repository for those "we're not sure what they are" deities, while we put under demigods everything confirmed as demigods. Loas and Old Gods, we aren't sure of their nature, so we leave them with their own section. Troll and Tuskarr are just a classification.--[[User:Lon-ami|Lon-ami]] ([[User talk:Lon-ami|talk]]) 11:10, 14 March 2011 (UTC)
  
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==={{Neutral Icon}} Neutral ===
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* {{RaceIconExt|DrakeStone|Small}}{{NPC|Neutral|Aeonaxx|Mate of Aeosera}} (Rare Elite)
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* {{RaceIcon|Orc|Male|Small}}{{NPC|Neutral|Captain Skullshatter}} (Deceased)
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* {{RaceIcon|Wildhammer|Male|Small}}{{NPC|Neutral|Earthmender Govrun}}
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* {{RaceIcon|Orc|Female|Small}}{{NPC|Neutral|Earthmender Narvra}}
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* {{RaceIconExt|GemstoneColossus|Small}}{{NPC|Neutral|Feldspar the Eternal}}
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* {{RaceIcon|Wildhammer|Male|Small}}{{NPC|Neutral|Hargoth Dimblaze|The Earthen Ring}}
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* {{RaceIconExt|Colossus|Small}}{{NPC|Neutral|Ma'haat the Indomitable}}
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* {{RaceIcon|Draenei|Female|Small}}{{NPC|Neutral|Stormcaller Jalara|The Earthen Ring}}
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* {{RaceIconExt|Gryphon|Small}}{{NPC|Neutral|Stormbeak}}
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* {{RaceIcon|Tauren|Female|Small}}{{NPC|Neutral|Tawn Winterbluff|The Earthen Ring}}
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* {{RaceIcon|Tauren|Male|Small}}{{NPC|Neutral|Tharm Wildfire|The Earthen Ring}}
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* {{RaceIconExt|ThrallShaman|Small}}{{NPC|Neutral|Thrall}}
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* {{RaceIcon|Draenei|Male|Small}}{{NPC|Neutral|Yuldris Smolderfury|The Earthen Ring}}
   
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=== Hostile ===
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::I don't like the old one, Loas and Old gods are both gods, it says so in their title, using gods just for everything else is not good classification.--[[User:Ashbear160|Ashbear160]] ([[User talk:Ashbear160|talk]]) 13:00, 14 March 2011 (UTC)
  
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* {{RaceIconExt|DragonTwilight|Small}}{{NPC|Combat|Abyssion}} (Elite)
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* {{RaceIconExt|DrakeStone|Small}}{{NPC|Combat|Aeosera|Stone Dragon Broodmother}} (Elite)
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* {{RaceIconExt|ShaleSpider|Small}}{{NPC|Combat|Amthea}}
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* {{RaceIconExt|Earth|Small}}{{NPC|Combat|Avalanchion|Elemental Lord}}
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* {{RaceIcon|Human|Male|Small}}{{NPC|Combat|Boldrich Stonerender}}
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* {{RaceIconExt|StoneTrogg|Small}}{{NPC|Combat|Bouldergut|Stone Trogg Chieftain}}
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* {{RaceIcon|Orc|Male|Small}}{{NPC|Combat|Dragul Giantbutcher}}
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* {{RaceIconExt|StoneTrogg|Small}}{{NPC|Combat|Fungalmancer Glop}} (Elite)
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* {{RaceIconExt|GemstoneColossus|Small}}{{NPC|Combat|Golgarok|The Crimson Shatterer}} (Rare)
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* {{RaceIconExt|Basilisk|Small}}{{NPC|Combat|Gorgonite}}
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* {{RaceIconExt|Putress|Small}}{{NPC|Combat|Haethen Kaul}} (Elite)
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* {{RaceIcon|Human|Female|Small}}{{NPC|Combat|High Priestess Azil}} (Elite)
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* {{RaceIcon|BloodElf|Female|Small}}{{NPC|Combat|High Priestess Lorthuna}} (Elite)
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* {{RaceIconExt|ShaleSpider|Small}}{{NPC|Combat|Jadefang}} (Rare)
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* {{RaceIconExt|Fire|Small}}{{NPC|Combat|Magmatooth|Initiate Goldmine's Fire Elemental}}
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* {{RaceIconExt|UnboundMercury|Small}}{{NPC|Combat|Maziel|Mercury Ascendant}}
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* {{RaceIcon|Gnome|Male|Small}}{{NPC|Combat|Millhouse Manastorm|The Forgemaster}} (Elite)
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* {{RaceIconExt|OgreMage|Small}}{{NPC|Combat|Mor'norokk the Hateful}}
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* {{RaceIconExt|DrakeStone|Small}}{{NPC|Combat|Stonescale Matriarch}} (Elite)
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* {{RaceIconExt|Gyreworm|Small}}{{NPC|Combat|Terborus}} (Rare)
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* {{RaceIconExt|StoneTrogg|Small}}{{NPC|Combat|Troggzor the Earthinator|Stone Trogg Battle Leader}}
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* {{RaceIconExt|DragonTwilight|Small}}{{NPC|Combat|Xariona}} (Rare Elite)
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* {{RaceIcon|Troll|Male|Small}}{{NPC|Combat|Zoltrik Drakebane}} (Elite)
   
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[[Category:Deepholm NPCs| ]]
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==Dark ancients==
  
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[[Category:NPCs by zone]]
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These should stay in the ancient section, after all they are still ancients and are made from other ancients.--[[User:Ashbear160|Ashbear160]] ([[User talk:Ashbear160|talk]]) 11:45, 29 June 2011 (UTC)
  

Revision as of 12:41, 29 June 2011

The following NPCs can be found in Deepholm.

Questgivers

Alliance Crest Alliance

Horde Crest Horde

Neutral Neutral

Class Trainers

None

Profession (Tradeskill) Trainers

None

Merchants

Alliance Crest Alliance

Horde Crest Horde

Neutral Neutral

Various Services

Alliance Crest Alliance

Horde Crest Horde

Neutral Neutral

Other Notable NPCs

Neutral Neutral

Hostile

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