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Creating articles

I'm just going to say this once: do NOT create articles that just say "X is a subzone of Y", if you're going to create it then provide an image or something. You're not supposed to make an article just to remove a broken link. It's also very rude that you do that to a link that I just added, it didn't strike you that I would add it? --g0urra[T҂C] 09:47, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

Wait five minutes lol, I am on mmo champion, pickup the screen. That does not evil to create them all then add picture ain't it?

Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (^talk/_contribz) 09:49, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

And you can prove that this is from the current build and not from a previous one? --g0urra[T҂C] 09:57, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, beacause I am in Beta!

Oh wait no I am not!

Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (^talk/_contribz) 09:59, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

In order words you have no way to know if those screenshots are real or not. --g0urra[T҂C] 10:05, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, seems Captain Kirkburn has forgotten me on the shore...

Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (^talk/_contribz) 10:07, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

I'm in the Beta. Tell me where and I can get you a screenshot. :) —EGingell (T|C|F) Treader of Cenarion Circle 02:20, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

Avatar

Hey, your avatar (on Monaco and other Wikia skins) is broken. Any idea what might have caused this? --PcjWowpedia wiki manager (TDrop me a line!•C207,729 contributions and counting) 16:13, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

I do not remember I ever upload an avatar... Which one is it?

Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (^talk/_contribz) 19:41, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Dustwallow Marsh

What is your reason for this change? --g0urra[T҂C] 14:11, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

I guess I thought that subzones physically inside of another subzone could be written like I did (do I even make myself clear?).

For example Embestrife Den and Onyxia's Lair are in Wyrmbog.

I would tend to do it to all zones, if you agree thoses changes. If not, I will only change it for the town/capital/dugeon subzones.

Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (^talk/_contribz) 14:36, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

I was thinking more it would apply to cities, but it may have uses outside those. --g0urra[T҂C] 07:19, August 30, 2010 (UTC)

Gabrirt reverts

May I ask why you reverted his edits? They seem to be for no bad intentions - the only difference they make is that they have tooltips. --g0urra[T҂C] 07:20, August 30, 2010 (UTC)

Because they were all reverted by Coobra in the first place

Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (^talk/_contribz) 07:26, August 30, 2010 (UTC)

Aye... it's silly and pointless to {{NPC}} tag practically every name in an article, throughout the article, several times like so. Sssssssssssssssssssssssss For Pony! (^Sssss/_Slithered) 07:31, August 30, 2010 (UTC)

So why are they linked that way in the first place? This and this edit (granted, linking them again in the conversation may seem unnecessary) were to add tooltips to links that already existed. If you're going to remove unnecessary number of links then remove those that were there in the first place, not revert someone who only had good intentions. I'd also like to point out WW:AGF which I find relevant in this case. --g0urra[T҂C] 07:56, August 30, 2010 (UTC)

Block of DanDober

3 months is simply an unacceptable time period for a block to a user with a) no warnings, b) not obvious vandalism, and c) without email or talk page editing enabled. --Sky (t · c) 18:59, August 30, 2010 (UTC)

I believe this and that are "obvious vandalism".

Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (^talk/_contribz) 19:17, August 30, 2010 (UTC)

The former is obvious page blanking, but that does not imply vandalism. This is why you leave a warning. The second could simply have been the user removing the rest of his blanking; he might not know how to use the history function. Neither are obvious vandalism. --Sky (t · c) 19:23, August 30, 2010 (UTC)

Seems obvious to me, too; however, three months does seem a bit excessive. —EGingell (T|C|F) Treader of Cenarion Circle 19:59, August 30, 2010 (UTC)

I agree completely with the consequences for such actions. Three months seem fine. --Oponyxal / Arodeesa  talk  contr 18:17, September 6, 2010 (UTC)

Lich King

Really sorry about any bad changes I made with the Lich King page and the relationship thing. I just REALLY enjoy the lore and thought that it wwould be a bit more interesting to just put down the relationships he head with the people he met in the story. Thanks for the edit:) and once again really sorry if I messed up the page.

--Vandiir (talk) 19:19, September 7, 2010 (UTC)

Hammer of the Righteous

As it stands atm, it seems Hammer of the Righteous will now damage all targets, as opposed to the hitting 3/4 targets. Shall I add something to the page like what it will be like in Cataclysm, or shall I wait until the beta closes so that it's definite? Epsi-spoon (talk) 21:42, September 8, 2010 (UTC)

Cairne Bloodhoof

What you mean Source? some kind of clue? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Imisklaria (talk · contr).

Anything that could justify the statement: a screenshot, a link to a website (mmo champion, world of raid, etc...)

Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (^talk/_contribz) 15:19, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

Cataclysm Raid boss pages

I thought Al'Akir's page looked prettier with the quotes to label the phases, alas.

I remember you fixing boss page edits I've made since Naxxramas 2.0 I suppose I shouldn't be surprised!

Nitros14 10:34, November 2, 2010 (PST)

We just like to keep all quotes together, that's all. Sssssssssssssssssssssssss For Pony! (^Sssss/_Slithered) 05:38, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

Like He Who Must Not Be Named said, keeping quotes together and appart from the abilities or strategy look a bit clearer. (imo?)

Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (^talk/_contribz) 18:52, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

Hardened Elementium Bar versus Enchanted Elementium Bar

I noticed you deleted the page on  [Hardened Elementium Bar] and moved the contents to the  [Enchanted Elementium Bar] page. I wanted to point out that as of right now on live, it's still called "Hardened Elementium Bar." It won't get changed to Enchanted Elementium Bar (a better name imo) until either 4.0.3 or 4.0.3a. I wasn't sure how it would be best to restore the page though. Should the enchanted elementium redirect to hardened elementium, or should hardened elementium redirect to a page named after an item that doesn't currently exist on the live realm? Either way, Hardened Elementium shouldn't be deleted entirely. Dr. Cheis (talk) 19:33, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, we'll leave a redirect from Hardened to Enchanted until the Beta is Live.

Thanks for pointing that out.

Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (^talk/_contribz) 19:39, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

Deleting pages

There's no harm in leaving a redirect. Rubali (talk)

Be bold Rubali! ;)

Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (^talk/_contribz) 21:54, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

Instancefooter

May I ask why you decided to replaced {{Dungeons}} with Instancefooter? Was there any reason to, especially after I cleaned it up? --g0urra[T҂C] 16:30, 12 November 2010 (UTC)

Well that remained a big template even after your draft.

So I went ahead and rushed toward Lon-ami suggestion of an Instancefooter ala Bookfooter.

Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (^talk/_contribz) 16:32, 12 November 2010 (UTC)

Sure, it was a bigger template, but you could choose what you wanted to see. The Dungeons template was a mess with all the icons and that you had to see them all, and I categorized it by expansion/game. Did that not occur to you? --g0urra[T҂C] 16:36, 12 November 2010 (UTC)

Sure I see the categorization, but that still made something "extra-large"

Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (^talk/_contribz) 16:37, 12 November 2010 (UTC)

What point are you trying to make? The difference between the sizes isn't that much bigger. --g0urra[T҂C] 16:38, 12 November 2010 (UTC)

I hope you are joking about size, else I would say you need my blind-glasses.

Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (^talk/_contribz) 16:41, 12 November 2010 (UTC)

So it's a little bigger, so what? Are you trying to make an argument that in order to make it smaller you'll sacrifice accessibility? --g0urra[T҂C] 16:44, 12 November 2010 (UTC)

It occurs to me that the reverse argument is true too. You would make a mammoth template to have more accessibility?

Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (^talk/_contribz) 16:48, 12 November 2010 (UTC)

I would - it would mean you can get from instance to instance easier, instead of having to click an unnecessary amount of times to get there. Either way Dungeons is set to be collapsed by default, does that make it better for you? --g0urra[T҂C] 16:50, 12 November 2010 (UTC)

A'noob is right, a more narrow scope is a good idea to break down the hulking mess that is {{Dungeons}}. --PcjWowpedia wiki manager (TDrop me a line!•C207,729 contributions and counting) 16:52, 12 November 2010 (UTC)

Holycrap a supporter!

Let's ask for Vox Populi.

Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (^talk/_contribz) 16:53, 12 November 2010 (UTC)

Keristrasza icons

I've just made two icons for Keristrasza in human form and Nexus-dragon form.

File:IconSmall Keris.gif What do you think?

PS.: Writting Dragonkin names is murder. X_X

Mig64 (talk) 19:34, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

Nice, maybe something more "frontal" for the dragon form?

Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (^talk/_contribz) 19:40, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

I agree.. its kind of hard to tell what it is. You might want to compare it with the other dragon icons and try to get it near like those for consistency... also, you should use a black background for the icons rather than a grey. =) Sssssssssssssssssssssssss For Pony! (^Sssss/_Slithered) 20:48, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

Sir Zeliek

Sir Zeliek

Disagreement on the Lore here. Can you hop over and make a decision on it?

Commander Eligor Dawnbringer

The most powerful Death Knights within Naxxramas are the four horsemen. They represent the pinnacle of Kel'Thuzad's guard. The first, Thane Korth'azz, holds the power of flame. The next, Lady Blaumeux, calls forth the power of shadows, drawing the souls of the living into the voracious embrace. Sir Zeliek, a paladin in life, so strong in his faith, that even in undeath, the power of the light still heeds his call, smiting his foes in battle. The final Death Knight, Lord Mograine, was the finest warrior that the Death Knights had ever seen. However, after the events in Azeroth, he vanished without a trace. Kel'Thuzad has appointed Baron Rivendare in his place.

Just to provide the info I was using to call him a Death Knight and not an undead Paladin.

Basically he is stated in game as a Death Knight that can use the Holy Light due to his faith in life. I don't think that qualifies him as an undead Paladin via subjective reasoning.

Pyrolight (talk) 15:34, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

Cataclysm Raid loot

Now that both 10-man and 25-man raids drops the same items, shouldn't we just separate loot in normal and heroic? like at the Bastion of Twilight loot page. GVHB (talk) 21:13, 20 December 2010 (UTC)

You're right, I forgot it ;)

Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (^talk/_contribz) 21:15, 20 December 2010 (UTC)

With great power...

...Comes the responsibility to do more than hit the auto-create button. I'm just saying. :-P --Bellocois (talk) 08:38, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

Eeeeeeeeeh..... No !

Great power is for kicking asses xD

Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (^talk/_contribz) 08:40, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

But seriously, you might find it helpful to have the patch data and template for the chain copied somewhere separate, and use that to complement the automated tool. I was just making sure you planned to fix the pages. --Bellocois (talk) 08:43, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

I personnaly was not about to do it :)

I spam auto-create, but they go under Stubs so we know they need be enhanced.

And adminship does not mean I am bound to do things perfectly in their smallest details.

Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (^talk/_contribz) 08:46, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

I was actually referring to the power of the auto-create tool, not adminship. But okay, I guess it will wait. --Bellocois (talk) 08:52, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

Oooh my dear, why didn't you say it at loud! Everyone can do it!

Go under Preferences, Gadgets, Labs and check the two functionalities: generate item pages and generate quest pages.

On a new article, click the drop down menu, then Create item tooltip, then Ok.

But beware of heroic item! The bot will create the heroic item by default, so you will have to give it the Normal item ID to create it.

Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (^talk/_contribz) 08:58, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

I know how to use it. :-) I was suggesting you copy the patch data and template with the quest chain and paste them into the newly created pages manually so as to prevent http://www.wowpedia.org/index.php?title=Quest:Students_of_Krastinov&oldid=2574723 from happening, that's all. --Bellocois (talk) 09:02, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

As you can see my poor cerebral capacities (can't even read a line properly) makes me useless outside of boting xD

Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (^talk/_contribz) 09:05, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

TOO...MUCH...POWER!!! *explodes* Sssssssssssssssssssssssss For Pony! (^Sssss/_Slithered) 09:18, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

Creating quest pages

If you're just going to create quest pages and not correct anything in the article, then don't create them at all. There's glaring errors on the pages you've created, so start doing the quest pages properly. --g0urra[T҂C] 14:14, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

Question

A'noob please tell me, why do you remove a side not in Kael'thas article, which actually causes no harm, but you use flavour text from an ancient patch (1.5) to support lore that does not exist (Archbishop Benedictus coup in Stormwind)~. Encaitar 19:21, 5 January 2011 (UTC)

Merely a setback was created to remove the side note.

Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (^talk/_contribz) 19:23, 5 January 2011 (UTC)

I see, well but the other question?:P Encaitar 19:25, 5 January 2011 (UTC)

No need to say all that is in Merely a setback inside Kael. No?

Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (^talk/_contribz) 19:27, 5 January 2011 (UTC)

No I mean the one about Benedictus... Encaitar 19:29, 5 January 2011 (UTC)

And btw, this way you should also put Fandral and remove Tyrande as Ruler of Kaldorei, cause in-game he was a faction leader for a long time. (Until WotLK). Trust me and Dark T Zeratul mate, Benedictus was never a Lore leader of Stormwind in a way Bolvar was. Encaitar 19:36, 5 January 2011 (UTC)

That's cleaned-up :)

Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (^talk/_contribz) 19:37, 5 January 2011 (UTC)

Nice, btw A'noon could you visit Category talk:Patch templates and discuss the Icon change for Cataclysm patches. I propsed change from to cause it'd be more in style of previous expansion. Many thanks in advance:) Encaitar 19:41, 5 January 2011 (UTC)

Template

I know your an expert at things, but can you help me with something...

I have this wikia http://fictionalraces.wikia.com/wiki/Fictional_Races_Wiki.

Do you know how to create a racebox for me? I know a lot of WoW races are on the site but so are non-WoW races. Can you help me for that one small favor? Hallowseve (talk) 18:56, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

I guess copy/pasting Template:Infobox would work.

Depending on the params you want to have, you could make a specialized Infobox like Template:Infobox race.

If you don't manage to do it, I'll give it a try.

Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (^talk/_contribz) 21:11, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

How do I make it? I'm a little confused. Hallowseve (talk) 21:23, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

I see here that your wiki already has an Infobox template. Why don't you use it?

Like in Orc.

Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (^talk/_contribz) 21:31, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

Thank you so much, I didn't realize I had one!!! Hallowseve (talk) 21:57, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

Whenever, Wherever.

Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (^talk/_contribz) 21:58, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

I'm sorry I have to bother you one more time, can you make the infobox equivalent to the racebox on here, I cannot figure out how to make it look that great like it is on here. Hallowseve (talk) 22:01, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

Check back in 30'.

Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (^talk/_contribz) 22:03, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

My biggest question, will you become an active user on my site and advertise it to other people? Hallowseve (talk) 22:33, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

So it is Infobox race and see Orc for an example.

Well no, I don't plan to be working on your wiki, I don't see a link with Wowpedia and the Warcraft universe. :)

Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (^talk/_contribz) 22:36, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

Well okay, and thank so much...if I ever have any other tempalte's I want to make can you help? Hallowseve (talk) 23:21, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

We'll see about that.

Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (^talk/_contribz) 23:28, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

I'm sorry again, I'm having troubles uploading images. Hallowseve (talk) 23:52, 15 January 2011 (UTC) Nevermind. Hallowseve (talk) 00:03, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

Your opinion is desired.

Hey A'noob, the Alliance-Horde War article is constantly changed to include Malfurion as an Alliance commander, while hee actually doesn't take part in the conflict similar to Lady Liadrin, Hamuul Runetotem, Varok Saurfang or even Thrall who are not listed. Could you please visit Talk:Alliance–Horde War and discuss. I really think he doesn't fit there, as he is more neutral as leader of Cenarion Circle (just like the 4 Horde commanders who simply do not take part in the war eventhough they're in the Horde). Thanks in advance Encaitar 20:35, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

Also

Sir Archdruid of the Noobhoof, can you speak about your opinion in the talk page of War in Outland? Thank you for the message in my talk page (despite the fact I have learned about it before you post, well I congratulate and thank your good intention). (Gabrirt (talk) 20:21, 20 March 2011 (UTC))

Crusading to the conflict

Please check Template talk:Wars and help to divulge my proposal. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Gabrirt (talk · contr).

Thanks ad a few things

Thanks for correcting my mistakes in Old Gods' forces, but it was only half complete trough now that is completed, could you recheck it i would be thankful

The other thing is Magmaw, the new lore points that lava worms like magmaw originate from the firelands, and i'm trying to make this more lore correct than gameplay correct, so that's why i changed magmaw to elemental zone.--Ashbear160 (talk) 22:23, 19 May 2011 (UTC)

Merge alchemy guide

I've just updated the Economical alchemy training page so that it can be merged with the Alchemy leveling guide. A lot of information on the latter is out-dated and IMHO the text snippets to each section are just describing what's already in the tables. So my recommendation would be to throw away the Alchemy leveling guide, and then rename/move "Economical alchemy training" to "Alchemy leveling guide". However, I can't do this because the move rules say so. Manski (talk) 08:31, 6 June 2011 (UTC)

My NEW wiki

I need your help on the NPCbox template on my new wikia http://gilneasmoonguardus.wikia.com/wiki/Gilneas_Moon_Guard_US_Wiki, It is hard to work for me. Hallowseve15 (talk) 12:01, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

Odd behavior

I can't seem to be able to do anything to File:Vile Scarab.jpg nor File:Marl Wormthorn2.jpg, it is like they do not exist, do you get the same? TherasTaneel (talk) 17:58, 25 August 2011 (UTC)

Oh...trapped in RL,...never mind TherasTaneel (talk) 18:06, 25 August 2011 (UTC)

Archbishop Benedictus: Wolfheart Section

Shouldn't that section just be made into a trivia note? Like "When suggested to train under the Archbishop by his father, Prince Anduin felt that there was something not right about him, which would proves true with the Benedictus's identity as the Twilight Father." It just seems wrong to have a section directly in the biography about a character when it's just that character being mentioned by other characters. --Sairez (talk) 01:35, 24 September 2011 (UTC)

WoW Mag volume 2 issue 1

Is there a reason you undid all my edits that changed this to the correct product name so you can replace it with a fan invented name instead? --Zeal (talk) 13:59, 26 September 2011 (UTC)

Apparitions with setbacks...

Under "minor setbacks" you left a comment "IN ORDER OF FIRST RE-APPARITION". I am puzzling over your meaning of "Re-apparition". Perhaps you can describe what you mean by this. Are you arguing for some temporal criteria? By expansion/WoW version? By time in the WoW chronology (which is noted to change occasionally, with new expansions)? Or are you talking about characters that have returned to life or plot (the "apparition" part of that statement)? And while I might intend a little bit of humor in poking at this, I am honestly puzzled. --Eirik Ratcatcher (talk) 20:23, 28 October 2011 (UTC)

I mean it like when the character appears in the story.

In-game it is sorted by expansion, and inside an expansion it is sorted on the "level needed" to encouter the character

"re-apparition" is when you meet again a character, previously thought to have be killed/defeated

Does it help?

Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (^talk/_contribz) 14:35, 29 October 2011 (UTC)

Roleplaying Outfit and Roleplaying Gear

Can you please unite the histories of these pages? Neia Pique (talk) 10:38, 1 November 2011 (UTC)

This is not a rename/move, so history cannot be merged.

Beside, for a move, remember to tag the article if you cannot rename it, instead of copy data and redirecting.

Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (^talk/_contribz) 10:42, 1 November 2011 (UTC)

The history of two articles can be easily mergered, especcially in this case (I know it, because I am one of wikipedia-sysop). This is enough simple procedure:

1. Rename Roleplaying Gear into Roleplaying outfit (rewrite RG over Ro).
2. Restore versions from 22 July 2006 to 5 September 2011 from deleted history.
3. Back-rename Roleplaying outfit into Roleplaying Gear.

Neia Pique (talk) 10:52, 1 November 2011 (UTC)

This is a merge of article content, why do you want to merge history? the entry for the merge even explain where does it come from

Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (^talk/_contribz) 11:06, 1 November 2011 (UTC)

The article Roleplaying outfit has existed long before Sigil's edits. The initial editors must be correctly attributed in new history, or content of Roleplaying Gear must be moved to Roleplaying outfit with link both to source and new/author (Sigil). So, I don't understand why do you refuse to make this simple procedure in this simple case for correct attribution of initial editors, very usual for wikiprojects with GFDL and/or CC-BY-(SA)-(NC) licenses. Neia Pique (talk) 11:27, 1 November 2011 (UTC)

Merged. --g0urra[T҂C] 12:29, 1 November 2011 (UTC)

Another Mr. R

Well... least he did good edits most often, Ultimatex was more of a copy machine (from wowwiki) and not that good of one. Sssssssssssssssssssssssss For Pony! (^Sssss/_Slithered) 17:34, 13 November 2011 (UTC)

And now can we removed the f****** NPC templates from every boxes?

Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (^talk/_contribz) 17:41, 13 November 2011 (UTC)

Wasn't that Gabrirt doing that? But I see multiple users doing that now, so eh. Personally preference I suppose, unless a vote is done. Sssssssssssssssssssssssss For Pony! (^Sssss/_Slithered) 17:47, 13 November 2011 (UTC)

More policy means more ability to "help the wiki", so I support a vote. Also, at User talk:Ultimatex#Goodbye why refer to Ultimatex as the "Second Mr.R_olandius"? Second, as in direct successor with no intermediaries? Not any of the several other people I feel are detracting from the quality of the wiki?--SWM2448 18:08, 13 November 2011 (UTC)

Second because he got the permaban (and with no great debate :p)

Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (^talk/_contribz) 18:19, 13 November 2011 (UTC)

Other users have been permabanned since him, no? And would not there need to be a great debate to match the ilk of... "Mr. R"?--SWM2448 18:32, 13 November 2011 (UTC)

There's no similarity between "Mr. R" and Ultimatex apart from that they were a thorn in the side of the admins (and regulars) and that they were both permabanned. I don't see any reason to continue this discussion, thank you very much. --g0urra[T҂C] 18:35, 13 November 2011 (UTC)

Can't we troll anymore?

Bully! :p

Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (^talk/_contribz) 18:38, 13 November 2011 (UTC)

Actual trolls should be banned. Speaking of trolls and Rolandius, check this link out. It seems trolls are who they are.--SWM2448 18:51, 13 November 2011 (UTC)

You made my night

Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (^talk/_contribz) 18:59, 13 November 2011 (UTC)

Heh, nice to see we weren't the only ones dealing with him. Sssssssssssssssssssssssss For Pony! (^Sssss/_Slithered) 19:14, 13 November 2011 (UTC)

I don't see him completely as a troll, just someone who fell victim to unwritten rules (Capitalized Sections vs Capitalized sections) and norms that had been established by the community. He was trying to be genuinely helpful, but maybe on too many areas. Needless spacing I can understand (heck he did it on WoWWiki too), as well as capitalization that isn't needed, but it was very harsh. What made his downfall was that he has a hard time working on what he was being critized because of. In the end that annoys to no end, and such caused him to get permabanned. --g0urra[T҂C] 19:17, 13 November 2011 (UTC)

Your opinion is desired

Deletion vote in progress at Category talk:Bind on Equip socketable gems -- Dark T Zeratul (talk) 00:43, 17 November 2011 (UTC)

Beyond the Dark Portal icons

It says in http://books.google.com/books?id=YHSEI_Mz0JMC&q=Varian#v=snippet&q=Varian&f=false that Varian is already a young king in Beyond the Dark Portal. He was crowned at 18 and an equal member of the Alliance. He is no longer a child in my opinion at this point and since Arthas is not much younger than him, neither should he. (Sports72Xtrm (talk))

When Azeroth was razed by the orcs, Varian was a child. His coronation happened very long time after the 2nd War, he was under regency of Lother for years starting at the end of the 1st war

Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (^talk/_contribz) 16:42, 1 December 2011 (UTC)

New Outland and Northrend Old Dungeon Quests

Some dungeon quests that existed prior to patch 4.3.0 have their names used for the new dungeon quests. You changed the way I changed the page for Quest:Lost_in_Action_(old), that I named the way this one was named Quest:Turning_the_Tide_(original) (I did a small mistake with the capital O, but that's off topic right now).

I was wondering how we should name those depreciated quests that have their name re-used, so they all share the same format? How would you have it? I was thinking about working on those tomorrow (Sunday the 4th), so I'd like to know the opinion of an admin before toying with all these articles. Guyomeprime (talk) 08:50, 4 December 2011 (UTC)

I see many (old) ones for quests and (original) for dungeons.

I would say (old) is better, but this can be put to vote.

Anyway sharing the same format would be nice

Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (^talk/_contribz) 09:09, 4 December 2011 (UTC)